someguyinahat
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Let's return to the days of pseudonyms in credits
Wasn't "Phil Fish" already a pseudonym?
Let's return to the days of pseudonyms in credits
I felt like I had a good handle on what this drama was all about as of about a day ago. But I've been pretty busy the last 24 hours and holy crap am I at a loss now.
Picture that was posted million times ago.
Hmm...
We already talked about that. The mobile phone stuff is optional. And Renaud Bédard is gathering the evidence right now.
Reminder that two-step authorization on Cloudflare is not mandatory.
I've been working on my game for 2 and a half+ years. I've done some conferences, talked to other devs, gotten a few game jam games (not this one, this one is my baby and hasn't been released) written up about on major game sites and gotten let's plays by youtubers (always fun to see your 100 hit a day page get 5k hits in an hour because of Markiplier).
It's a hard path to walk, specially if you are doing it like me, full time job, family, spare time dev with no funding. But at the end of the day, you're not really just making games for other people. You should be making them for yourself.
I love the stuff I work on. I'm making a game I want to play and was surprised that other people wanted it too. So it's a commercial thing now, but only because people asked for it. However even if everyone turned on me and decided they hated it, I'd still finish it and play it. Because I just want to.
So if you want to do it because you love it, do it. Keep at it and don't let the drama dissuade you. Shield yourself from it. It only involves you if yo let it. If you're doing it because you think you'll be a rockstar or make tons of money: Don't. Quit while you're ahead, it isn't worth it. You lose years of your life, mental health, money and sometimes happiness for gamedev. If you don't have something to balance the scales out for those, that's a strong enough motivator for you, just be happy doing what you do, or keep it as a hobby forever.
Gamedev is a productive hobby. It's the most fun and yet most frustrating programming I've ever done. I don't think I'll ever stop, whether people hate me or not. But it isn't for everyone, that's for sure.
Source: My game which I've been slaving away at for 2 and a half years
I do this stuff for me, and I know many other indies that are the same way. Thats the big secret for a lot of developers (small ones at least) - they dont make stuff for their audience, they make stuff for themselves and it just so happens that their taste is relatable.
I make stuff that I never put online, solely for my own pleasure. I enjoy programming, its like a giant puzzle for me. I actually find the process rewarding. Like a clockwork maker who takes pride in his craft.
Coolio has a line in one of his songs that I love because it encapsulates why I do this: "if hip hop didnt pay I'd rap for free."
You know what's fun? Playing video games.
But these gym leader fights are stressing me out. And my raptor headed lizard pirate dude isn't learning any wrestling moves and I think in trying to get him to learn said moves I've grrinded my way past the point of no return in the event triggers. Man, I'm stressed.You know what's fun? Playing video games.
No sane man would give all his government documents, addresses, bank account number, company finances, NDA documents and more to the general public just for some publicity stunt.
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I'm still out of the loop on one thing - did anyone actually download these files and verify that it was Fish's or anyone else's personal information? Seriously, 1.5 GB?
You know what's fun? Playing video games.
Do you really think "asshole twitter outbursts" translates to "economic suicide at best"?Since when Phil Phish is a sane man?
You know what's fun? Playing video games.
More conjectures and assumptions without a real proof.
Same can be said about the hacking.
I'm gonna post again what I posted in another thread.
4chan can fuck off. I'm gonna backhand all of them. That forum is garbage and is ruining this industry.
Same can be said about the hacking.
That, and it's also not impossible to hack his phone, either.
Multiple independent confirmations is a pretty good indication that this isn't a hoax.
What's with all the juniors posting that same image with no elaboration?
Do you really think "asshole twitter outbursts" translates to "economic suicide at best"?
Or are you just accepting internet hyperbole as the truth?
Did the information in that download link come from Polytrons site? If so is it normal to host that kind of information on a website even if it's private?
Pretty good chance the actual hack happened awhile ago. Possibly by the fucking Joker, because everything about this is insane.No.
It probably came from his email or some cloud storage site if they hacked that.
Same can be said about the hacking.
Yep, calling this a "false flag" is part of the "feminist/SJW/indie hipster conspiracy" narrative that a disturbing number of people are buying into.
Same can be said about the hacking.
I sure hope nothing happens to dissuade fledgling developers who want to approach the field from a non traditional stance.You know what's fun? Playing video games.
It's most likely that someone accessed the Polytron password database, logged into a company computer/server, logged into the hosting website and then posted a compressed file of the stuff the pulled from the company computer/server.Did the information in that download link come from Polytrons site? If so is it normal to host that kind of information on a website even if it's private?
I felt like I had a good handle on what this drama was all about as of about a day ago. But I've been pretty busy the last 24 hours and holy crap am I at a loss now.
Same can be said about the hacking.
I like the ones where you press the buttons and it makes things on the screen change.
You know what's fun? Playing video games.
For the record, if someone says this is a "false flag," they don't necessarily mean to say "Phil Fish did this!" but, I would hope, mean to say "Whoever is calling themselves the 'head mod over at /V/ and leader of 4chan.org and Anonymous' is making that part up because that position doesn't even exist" (and nobody who knows anything about /v/ would capitalize the v.)
You know what's fun? Playing video games.
being a popular gamedev seems to be hilariously thankless except for the monetary award. videogames is the worst industry for a balance of positive feedback versus negativity. even the flappy bird guy who never said a bad word to anyone got shat on by a lot of posters here because he used fucking mario pipes.I sure hope nothing happens to dissuade fledgling developers who want to approach the field from a non traditional stance.
Do you really think "asshole twitter outbursts" translates to "economic suicide at best"?
Or are you just accepting internet hyperbole as the truth?
Multiple independent confirmations is a pretty good indication that this isn't a hoax.
Yea. It's not like there's proof that their site was defaced, their twitter hacked and a shitload of documents posted to a filesharing site.
Juniors gonna junior.
Do you really need absolutely undeniable proof to accept that it is incomprehensibly more likely that people who hate Phil Fish or Zoe Quinn, actively wish death upon them, and regularly disparage them would doxx them than it is that these two SJW conspirators doxxed themselves to get sympathy from people who rarely speak out in support of them?
What's with all the juniors posting that same image with no elaboration?
Do you really think "asshole twitter outbursts" translates to "economic suicide at best"?
Or are you just accepting internet hyperbole as the truth?
So, has this all just happened to him and his website because he defended Zoe Quinn? That is what I gathered from here and from twitter. A real mess.
Do people really believe that Phil Fish released information like his own SSN and important information about his company and other stakeholders (employees/retailing partners) for a publicity stunt? That is another level of crazy at this point. Especially now that people have seen or heard about the extent of the information that has been released. Do people here really believe this is "Phil Fish doing another crazy stunt?"