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Pope will dine with homeless, not politicians after addressing Congress

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fuzzyset

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Mael

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FlyinJ said:
That is putting it mildly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBNs_6_FXc4
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a youtube comment that is not pure shite for once.
bohemianwriter1 said:
+jag10 Nope. You are a fake Christian because you not only fail to follow the words of your savior, you are willfully avoiding his words, tring to mince words making the popes message less important to be avoided because it't not convenient for you.


This pope is the most Christ like religious leader there is today. And what do you RWers do? You crucify him the same manner as you would crucify your Jesus when he would scorn you for your greed, your hypocrisy and being plain cruel.
Jesus was anti-Capitalist. So is the pope. Deal with it, or stop pretending you have any faith in the Bible whatsoever.
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fuzzyset said:
I can't find it, but there are interpretations out there that say thats a pro-money statement. People wanna believe what they wanna believe.
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Please I want to see this.
 
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fuzzyset said:
Are any of those talking heads Catholic? It's not that surprising, if they're Protestant, given the history of Catholic/Prot relations in America. Still sad though. If any of those people are practicing Catholics though, they're saying that God made a mistake in picking this man.
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They say in the video that the same people who gave us Obama gave us this pope. I don't believe they think God had anything to do with this.
 
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fuzzyset said:
I can't find it, but there are interpretations out there that say thats a pro-money statement. People wanna believe what they wanna believe.
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There were rich disciples in the gospel books. The man who buried Jesus was a rich man. Again, whether you believe it, is based on your worldview.

Some interpretations mention that if you're rich it's harder to see you need for the gospel. But gospel is still accessible to you. Generosity and helping the poor is still commanded.

Only, they asked us to remember the poor, the very thing I was eager to do.
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Galatians 2:10

Whoever is generous to the poor lends to the Lord, and he will repay him for his deed.
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Proverbs 19:17
 
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Grym said:
Mathew 19:24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.
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HylianHistorian said:
You know, personally as one who is trans, I am still thankful he is doing what he is doing; that statement still stings and hurts, but in regards to other topics, I am in heavy agreement with him and glad he is doing this.
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Sure, me too. I just don't think the 'great guy' description fits because he's still a bigot.
I almost feel like gagging whenever I see someone describe him as such.
 
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Pope Francis is the best thing that happened to the church in god knows how long he is almost too good.
I am not even religious and i love this dude i really hope he is careful there must be a lot of people inside and outside that want him gone.
 
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Octavianus said:
Sure, me too. I just don't think the 'great guy' description fits because he's still a bigot.
I almost feel like gagging whenever I see someone describe him as such.
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That's fair and understandable. I can only hope he changes his stance in the future, but we'll see.
 
Shmuppers

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If the Pope dressed in normal clothes, he could eat with the homeless without fearing for his life. Who wants to kill the Pope anyway?

edit: Well shit.
 
Red Mage

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MrOogieBoogie said:
Lol

How accurate is this?
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Somewhat. The abortion one would probably be covered under Thou Shall Not Kill (not trying to start an argument, just explaining). As for the alcohol and drugs, it's actually talking about eating religiously 'clean' and 'unclean' food. Scripture repeatedly says being a drunk (not drinking at all, though) is a sin, and drugs are sort of hard to determine because Christians are to obey the laws of the land (i.e. if it's illegal, it's illegal). There is also at least some evidence that when Scripture refers to Sorcery in the New Testament, they're referring to cults that used various mind-altering chemicals to get visions.

Regarding this comment:

This pope is the most Christ like religious leader there is today. And what do you RWers do? You crucify him the same manner as you would crucify your Jesus when he would scorn you for your greed, your hypocrisy and being plain cruel.
Jesus was anti-Capitalist. So is the pope. Deal with it, or stop pretending you have any faith in the Bible whatsoever.
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Jesus wasn't anti-Capitalist. The Romans were quasi-Capitalists, and He never condemned their system. If He had, they would have had a valid reason to claim He was rebelling against the Empire (something we're repeatedly told isn't the case). I'm not saying that Capitalism is Christian, I'm saying it isn't anti-Christian either.
 
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He seems like a wonderful man. I'm enthused by his willingness to be hands on and outspoken.

If I'm being honest, I think this is exactly what is needed. Our society is having a hard time coping with the ever-changing landscape of humanity. At this point, it's not enough for world leaders to preach for a more just civilization, they must also lead by example. If the pontiff has the ability to enlighten even a small group of people during his papacy, the world would be a slightly better place.

There are certain safety precautions that must be taken into consideration, but I'm positive all of that is already complete.
 
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BruceLeeRoy

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brian577 said:
Love the guy, but he's going to get himself killed. As much as I appreciate his more hands on approach, it's not appropriate for the world's most important religious leader.
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Not sure I understand where your coming from. If he believes he is ordained by god what better way to follow in the footsteps of Christ. If you mean as a normal dude that is galavanting around with false piety and has no higher power protecting him....Then yeah the dude needs a bodyguard.
 
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ItIsOkBro said:
"He's anti-trickle down economics" lol

I love how if this wasn't a Republican video it would basically be a Pope endorsement.
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I am obviously completely out of touch with US politics, I had honestly no idea the whole trickle down economics thing was anything else than a sad running gag
 
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Red Mage said:
Somewhat. The abortion one would probably be covered under Thou Shall Not Kill (not trying to start an argument, just explaining). As for the alcohol and drugs, it's actually talking about eating religiously 'clean' and 'unclean' food. Scripture repeatedly says being a drunk (not drinking at all, though) is a sin, and drugs are sort of hard to determine because Christians are to obey the laws of the land (i.e. if it's illegal, it's illegal). There is also at least some evidence that when Scripture refers to Sorcery in the New Testament, they're referring to cults that used various mind-altering chemicals to get visions.

Regarding this comment:

Jesus wasn't anti-Capitalist. The Romans were quasi-Capitalists, and He never condemned their system. If He had, they would have had a valid reason to claim He was rebelling against the Empire (something we're repeatedly told isn't the case). I'm not saying that Capitalism is Christian, I'm saying it isn't anti-Christian either.
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Holy mental gymnastics batman!

Thou Shall Not Kill? or though shalt not murder? there is plenty of killing that is sanctioned in the bible. There is nothing stating that abortion is killing or murder. In fact, the one time miscarriage is addressed, the penalty for causing it is less than for killing a human... sooo nah brah

Your whole rationalizations for drinking and drugs are pretty weak. plus, do we live in christian theocracy?

Jesus not being anti capitalist??? haha I mean not explicitly because such a concept wasn't formalized, but let's just say he despised the rich and anyone trying to make money. Give away all your possessions to the pour sounds pretty anti-capitalist to me.
 
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Angelus Errare

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boiled goose said:
Holy mental gymnastics batman!

Thou Shall Not Kill? or though shalt not murder? there is plenty of killing that is sanctioned in the bible. There is nothing stating that abortion is killing or murder. In fact, the one time miscarriage is addressed, the penalty for causing it is less than for killing a human... sooo nah brah

Your whole rationalizations for drinking and drugs are pretty weak. plus, do we live in christian theocracy?

Jesus not being anti capitalist??? haha I mean not explicitly because such a concept wasn't formalized, but let's just say he despised the rich and anyone trying to make money. Give away all your possessions to the pour sounds pretty anti-capitalist to me.
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Thank god we don't, we'd be no different than many places in the middle east. Suicide rate among women and minorities would be crazy high.
 
Red Mage

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boiled goose said:
Holy mental gymnastics batman!

Thou Shall Not Kill? or though shalt not murder? there is plenty of killing that is sanctioned in the bible. There is nothing stating that abortion is killing or murder. In fact, the one time miscarriage is addressed, the penalty for causing it is less than for killing a human... sooo nah brah

Your whole rationalizations for drinking and drugs are pretty weak. plus, do we live in christian theocracy?

Jesus not being anti capitalist??? haha I mean not explicitly because such a concept wasn't formalized, but let's just say he despised the rich and anyone trying to make money. Give away all your possessions to the pour sounds pretty anti-capitalist to me.
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The actual meaning of the word is murder, but most people know it as kill. Many Catholics are anti-Death penalty for the same reason they're anti-Abortion, which is the above. It's not mental gymnastics, it's explaining the reasoning behind their beliefs. You don't have to like or agree with it, but it's the reasoning.

Your second part is confusing because I never suggested that. I said that Christians are to obey the laws of the land unless they contradict Scripture. If it's illegal to do cocaine or meth, then you can't say it's not a sin to do them because you're breaking the law.

Christ did not despise people trying to make money. Most poor people are trying to make money. He despised people who valued money and their own comfort over others. Christ's kingdom is not of this earth, therefore whether a state is socialist or capitalist has little to do with what we, as Christians, are to do.

Angelus Errare said:
Thank god we don't, we'd be no different than many places in the middle east. Suicide rate among women and minorities would be crazy high.
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Okay, this I've got to hear.
 
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