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Portal 2 |OT| Sleep. Spuds. Science.
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Foliorum Viridum
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That's truly amazing. No wonder their games are the very best in the industry.glaurung said:
Zeliard said:
They have these I think, but what I think they dont have is sort of leaders of areas and things like that. They dont have lead designers, main writers or art directors. I guess they sort of exert the same influence on things as each other. (except Gabe because hes King.)
I think everyone who works at Valve is good enough and has enough experience to be a senior/lead/director etc.
Look at their titles here:
Might be an indication.
ColonialRaptor
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Zeliard said:Do you work at Valve? You seem to be in the know.
Or just read up on them perhaps.
I've been preparing my submission to apply to work at Valve.
I'm an Aussie though and it would take them re-locating me for it to happen... here's hoping.
It is also no wonder that their games have notoriously long development times. And why certain games just drop off the face of the earth for years(Episode 3? What?).Foliorum Viridum said:
They are the best, but their loose organization also doesn't promote "even" work on projects. I have to imagine that Valve's workflow does end up feeling a bit like a Flavor of the Month type of system whereby whatever project has the biggest new development(biggest idea of the week) gets the most work done in that week. If nobody is focusing on Episode 3, then no work gets done on it. That is part of the issue that comes up with a "cabal" system in a studio that has multiple simultaneous projects.
Foliorum Viridum
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True, there's probably downsides to the system, but at the end of the day I get to play some of the best games ever made, despite the long wait sometimes. I'm okay with that
If I could scratch out one of my eyeballs to get Ep 3 tomorrow I would.
The issue isn't exactly that "nothing gets done," it's that nothing gets done and therefore the company goes under after wasting millions, like 3D Realms. Valve doesn't have to worry about that because of Steam. They could go five years without releasing a game and probably be financially fine.Morkins said:
The Librarian
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That explains why the credits just list off names in alphabetical order and not by title (because there aren't any). Interesting.glaurung said:
Having investigated various working models I would like to add that in order to be successful with an approach like Valve's you need a properly focused and motivated leader that knows without falter what needs to be done.Morkins said:
Obviously Gabe and his knives are such a leader.
The Elite
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Morkins said:
Sounds very similar to my place of work. Except we don't produce awesome video games in the end. To be honest, it's not the best enviornment to work in if you want to get things done.
glaurung said:
This is absolutely true. I've also experienced this first hand at my present job. You need a focused Captain at the helm of the ship.
Shake Appeal
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Fixed.Cuisino said:
There is no 'Episode' 3.
Work gets done. It just happens to be on L4D, L4D2, Portal 2 and presumably DOTA2.DaBuddaDa said:
You have a company that has been doing HL games for over 15 years and there are certain people there that just have to be bored with HL. That is to be expected though... Now, if only Valve would stop acquiring interesting new projects that distract them from the task at hand...
indigo-cyclops
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I wonder if it is safe to say that Steam has been one of their main focuses? I mean obviously they still release games every so often, with Portal 2 being their biggest in years(from a single player campaign perspective). This could be why we haven't seen anything from their signature series in a while.DaBuddaDa said:
I wonder if things would be different if steam never came to be? Would they be just another 3d realms?
Valve is always releasing and putting out things and have been for years (Valve time jokes or not). They've put something out every year since 2003 on top of constantly patching in new stuff for existing games. So it isn't like this company structure has led to things not being accomplished; because obviously things are. They're obviously very productive; I think you guys just want them to be productive on Half-Life.
Awesome Animals
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enzo_gt said:
so, when it is easier to beat a puzzle for the second time. The game becomes an easy game overall.
gregor7777
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INDIGO_CYCLOPS said:
Gabe swims in his Microsoft money every morning. I think without Steam they'd be a smaller studio, but have all the money they need to make core games until gabe got bored.
I'd like them to be more productive on Half-Life... They adopted the "Episode" structure to make yearly releases possible. Instead, the cabal took over and Episode 3 has pretty much turned into Half-Life 3... Not complaining(necessarily), but it is frustrating. Especially when you consider that they have proven themselves capable of releasing a game in one year(L4D2).Tim-E said:Valve is always releasing and putting out things and have been for years (Valve time jokes or not). They've put something out every year since 2003 on top of constantly patching in new stuff for existing games. So it isn't like this company structure has led to things not being accomplished; because obviously things are. They're obviously very productive; I think you guys just want them to be productive on Half-Life.
gregor7777
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Morkins said:
What if they simply aren't inspired to work on it? You want them to force it out anyway?
EDIT: at least Portal takes place in the HL universe. That's something I suppose.
indigo-cyclops
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Good point, I tend to agree.. they seem more reserved in how they approach development, meaning I can't imagine them collapsing from the inside out.gregor7777 said:
As one of the few games in years I decided to buy this one on launch. I finally want to end my portal 2 hiatus.
Already postet in the global distribution thread, but I guess it doesn't hurt to post in here as well, since the targeted crowd should be more active in this thread.
I'd like to join a UK or US Portal 2 - 2 pack if anyone is buying one.
Already postet in the global distribution thread, but I guess it doesn't hurt to post in here as well, since the targeted crowd should be more active in this thread.
I'd like to join a UK or US Portal 2 - 2 pack if anyone is buying one.
FoxMcCloudDS
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I am not going to read this whole thread to see if someone else made the mention yet, but just so you guys know...
Best Buy is selling Portal 2 for 44.99 for console and 34.99 for PC (with $10.00 rewardzone certificate if you pre-order).
This works for in store or online, (if you pre order on the website for in store pickup)
Sorry if I was late! Hope it gets someone else excited for portal 2!
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Best Buy is selling Portal 2 for 44.99 for console and 34.99 for PC (with $10.00 rewardzone certificate if you pre-order).
This works for in store or online, (if you pre order on the website for in store pickup)
Sorry if I was late! Hope it gets someone else excited for portal 2!
Edit: Links:
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PS3
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Hari Seldon
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What is going on about this game possibly being released today?
ColonialRaptor
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If there is such a thing as too excited then I am fucking IT right now. I'm literally so excited that I can't sit still to save myself.
Tried to watch Solty Rei to pass the time but I couldn't handle watching it.
Tried to play Half Life to pass the time but couldn't control my mouse because of shaking.
Tried to make more avatars to pass the time but can't do it because I'm so excited that my brain just can't reach it's creative part and I can't think well enough to do it.
I really need to CALM THE FUCKING FUCK DOWN *slap slap slap* /pull yourself together god dammit.
This link - http://www.aperturescience.com/a/b/c/d/g/h/abcdgh/
Did ppl notice that it's missing the e and f?
Why is that?
'E'nd's 'F'riday?
Can't think of anything else.
Tried to watch Solty Rei to pass the time but I couldn't handle watching it.
Tried to play Half Life to pass the time but couldn't control my mouse because of shaking.
Tried to make more avatars to pass the time but can't do it because I'm so excited that my brain just can't reach it's creative part and I can't think well enough to do it.
I really need to CALM THE FUCKING FUCK DOWN *slap slap slap* /pull yourself together god dammit.
This link - http://www.aperturescience.com/a/b/c/d/g/h/abcdgh/
Did ppl notice that it's missing the e and f?
Why is that?
'E'nd's 'F'riday?
Can't think of anything else.
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Typographenia
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The wait is going to be miserable.
I don't have the spare funds at the moment, so I'm going to have to wait until later (and hopefully a price drop) before picking it up. Let's see how long I can avoid spoilers!
Fantastic work on the op, and congrats to anyone getting it before tuesday.
I don't have the spare funds at the moment, so I'm going to have to wait until later (and hopefully a price drop) before picking it up. Let's see how long I can avoid spoilers!
Fantastic work on the op, and congrats to anyone getting it before tuesday.
opticalmace
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Watch us all get rick-rolled.
brotkasten
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I didn't pre-order it on Steam, so there's no pre-load for me and I have a meeting in two hours. fml.
Boards of Canada
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Portal 1: 1.1GB
Portal 2: 10GB
Portal 2 is the biggest game I've ever downloaded from Steam. I'm pretty sure that's bigger than Mass Effect 1/2.
Portal 2: 10GB
Portal 2 is the biggest game I've ever downloaded from Steam. I'm pretty sure that's bigger than Mass Effect 1/2.
Lostconfused
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Ugh so many portal threads I am not even sure where I am posting anymore.