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[Spyxos]

Playstation Handheld ("Vita 2")

-Custom AMD APU, currently in the High Level Design Phase (At least 2 years out, and technically not greenlit for launch yet)

* Develepors I speak with state that is is plausible the "Vita 2" could utilize 18 CUs to maintain native BWC w/ all PS4 Digital Titles, and then for PS5 games a "Pro-like Patch" could be applied after a bit of work and testing from participating devs.

*Because of the PS5's variable clock speeds, it's also plausible the GPU could run at 1.8GHz or solwer too. To be clear, this wouldn't work for all games, it would require per-game testing & patches, and games would run at much lower resolutions.

*It has alternatively been suggested to me that the "Vita 2" is in fact a "Playstation 6 Family" handheld meant to launch many years from now with the next generation PS6 as weaker (but portable) alternative for the Japanese market.

*To be clear - what I can 100% confirm is that there is a new Playstation Handheld in early development, and that AMD has already gotten the contract for the Playstation 6. The exact specs and details of the PS6 and "Vita2" are speculation by me.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I'd be glad to be wrong though.

 

[Ar¢tos]

Digital only with no proprietary storage or ports, and it might have some success, but I don't trust Sony to resist the temptation of using proprietary shit.

 

[Spyxos]

I'd be glad to be wrong though.

I also find it hard to believe that there really will be another handheld from Sony. Maybe they were surprised by the Steamdeck success and they want to reproduce it.

 

[T4keD0wN]

Its MLID, 90% of what he says ends up being completely wrong.

For example: Tom claimed that ampere will have 3-4x the performance of turing, rdna3 to have better efficiency and performance than lovelace and so on.
He just makes stuff up to see if it catches on because people like to hope, dont let him fool you.

 

[chilichote]

Give me a PS4Portable and im fine!

 

[Pejo]

See, the thing is that if they are serious about a VIta2, they need to actually fucking support the hardware.

And as we've recently seen with PSVR2 being hung out to fucking dry in the desert sun, they still have not learned this lesson.

 

[Edder1]

Its MLID, 90% of what he says ends up being completely wrong.

I stopped taking this guy seriously back when he said that PS5 and Series X would run next gen games at 4K60 at high to ultra settings, lol. This was before these consoles launched, but anyone with common sense knew back then this guy was a meme. He has obviously gone on to make tons of other ridiculous claims.

 

[balls of snow]

Haha would be wild if true.

 

[Davevil]

 

[MonkeyClaw36]

Seeing how the Vita bombed everywhere, I call BS.

 

[SHA]

It will have 6 loud tantrum units in 200mm die in 11" tablet, with 5 tears per flop, she's gonna be powerful and you could take her anywhere you want.

 

[TheRedRiders]

Lmao someone can link the tweet but he just got caught out by Keplar on the CU configuration of the PS5 Pro being 60 out of 64 CU not 56 out of 60.

 

[nush]

handheld meant to launch many years from now

By which time you'll have all forgotten about this leak so I can say what I want for clicks.

 

[OuterLimits]

Highly unlikely. I don't see Sony wanting to support PS5, PSVR2 and Vita 2. It would get very little 1st party stuff.

 

[existensmaximum]

0% credible.

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

 

[Mownoc]

Well if they could make a handheld for 2027/2028 with enough power to run PS5 games without massive effort required by the developers to port it could work. Cross-gen would ensure new ps5 titles to port would still be launched for the first 3-5 years of its life. They cannot support two devices with completely different software libraries.

A late-gen portable ps5 would be interesting however I have zero faith that this is going to happen.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

But GAF told me there will definitely never ever be another Handheld from Sony? Experts told me so, it must be true!

 

[Ozriel]

You would be borderline crazy to believe this

 

[Jesb]

Sony can barely support VR how they gonna support this too. No chance.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Would be funny if Sony would release this Vita 2, but no PS5 Pro.

Not sure if I see Sony release a handheld though, but if they do, I'd be interested.
Would be a nice gift for my gf, since she wants her own Portal (had to explain a Portal is useless without a PS5. Lol).

 

[Xyphie]

Reminder that this is the accuracy of a MLID "leak". Compare them to what actually launched half a year later.

 

[ShirAhava]

The playstation portal is so dumb I wouldn't put anything past playstation at this point

 

[Draugoth]

This dude said Nvidia is working on a RTX 4080 Titan when other much more reputable leakers said it was canned

 

[Killjoy-NL]

The playstation portal is so dumb I wouldn't put anything past playstation at this point

I disagree.

Having a family-life, I think it's an amazing product.
90% of my gametime is through Portal.

If you're living at home or don't have a typical family-life, I can see why it seems useless.

 

[GymWolf]

More money wasted instead of making single player games for ps5, yuppie

 

[lh032]

 

[Ar¢tos]

Highly unlikely. I don't see Sony wanting to support PS5, PSVR2 and Vita 2. It would get very little 1st party stuff.

But indie developers would jump with joy with having another platform to get exposure for their games.

 

[Boss Mog]

Even if the Vita 2 comes out and is fantastic who will buy it given Sony's trend of sending out hardware to die, be it the original Vita or the more recently released PSVR2.

 

[Audiophile]

OG PSP was very successful in and of itself but the Vita was both badly timed and poorly supported. Feel like the market has gone full circle again and there might be room again for a semi-premium dedicated handheld if Sony were to support it well and place it in the market as a middleground between Switch & Steamdeck..



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[Killjoy-NL]

But indie developers would jump with joy with having another platform to get exposure for their games.

Not only that, but if it could run PS4 and PS5 games, it'll have an amazing catalogue of games.
And if it would be based on Portal, you'd have proper controls and haptic-feedback.

The question would be how realistic it would be.

 

[Zathalus]

Lol mlid, he can tell me the sky is blue and I'd go outside just to confirm for myself.

 

[tusharngf]

All sony needs to do is 480p-540p res portable device. I think all ps5 games can run on that res. Add 256gb SSD plus 16gb ram and you are good to go under $400. I am all in for psp2 as steam deck is already popular.

 

[Ozriel]

Not only that, but if it could run PS4 and PS5 games, it'll have an amazing catalogue of games.
And if it would be based on Portal, you'd have proper controls and haptic-feedback.

The question would be how realistic it would be.

It won’t be able to run PS5 games, because nobody’s going to be going back to downport the games for a handheld. Perhaps PS4 only, but who really wants that?

Steamdeck 2 and the competition will be able to run PC ports from both the PS4 and PS5 generation…

 

[Kokoloko85]

It has to be able to play PS5/PS6 games like Switch and Steam Deck play there current gen games or its a bust.
They can barely make enough games with there studios, now with VR too, they dont need another separate unit to make separate games for. Just do it Switch and Steamdeck style where It can play future games downscales.

Calling it PSP3 would be way better than Vita 2 btw. PSP sold 80millions units, Vita was the worst selling Playstation machine

Things that wont be an issue anymore that were an issue for Vita

- Controls, Now all portables have4 shoulder buttons so games can be ported much easier.

- SD cards. No proprietary crap. Im sure they wont do it again, they want the opposite with external harddrives while Xbox was the one who did proprietary external drives

- Shared library of games but downscaled to play portable. Steamdeck does it. Hopefully PS6 and PSP3 will do the same if it happens.

It might not sell 80million like PSP but it will do way better than PS Vita if they do the above. GTA 6 on PSP3 will sell buckets

 

[midnightAI]

It won’t be able to run PS5 games, because nobody’s going to be going back to downport the games for a handheld. Perhaps PS4 only, but who really wants that?

Steamdeck 2 and the competition will be able to run PC ports from both the PS4 and PS5 generation…

While I agree, not too many would back port, there arent that many PS5 only games. Also, if this does exist (very unlikely in my opinion) then they could do PS5 games via remote play like the Portal.

 

[Physiognomonics]

They wouldn't use outdated GCN technology in a new device. No chance of it happening.

From this day onward and for some time the only portable they will work on is their Portal streaming device that is already a big commercial success for them.

 

[ShirAhava]

I disagree.

Having a family-life, I think it's an amazing product.
90% of my gametime is through Portal.

If you're living at home or don't have a typical family-life, I can see why it seems useless.

I'd just remote play to my smartphone or tablet (devices most people own multiple of)
even buying a 2nd dedicated gaming phone for remote play makes more sense

 

[StueyDuck]

I doubt any of this being true.

 

[tusharngf]

480p resolution can work for Sony. They just need to target that. I think most ps5 games can run at that resolution with some checkerboarding.

 

[RoboFu]

It's true but the twist is it's a steam os device.

 

[LordCBH]

There’s a near 0% chance they’re working on another handheld after how they sent the Vita out to die.

 

[StereoVsn]

I disagree.

Having a family-life, I think it's an amazing product.
90% of my gametime is through Portal.

If you're living at home or don't have a typical family-life, I can see why it seems useless.

You can get much the same use out of Steam Deck or ROG Ally and those allow you to have local games.

That said if vast majority of your gaming is on PS5 and you don’t care about having local titles or taking the handheld out of the house then yeah, I can see Portal being useful.

Edit: As far as this rumor goes I call BS. Sony didn’t support Vita with software releases much past launch. They did the same for VR2.

Why in the world would they repeat that?

 

[Killjoy-NL]

You can get much the same use out of Steam Deck or ROG Ally and those allow you to have local games.

True, fair point, but that is kinda irrelevant as I have no interest in PC gaming whatsoever. So Portal is a much cheaper alternative.
Not to mention that Portal is basically a DualSense with all it's functionalities.

 

[StereoVsn]

True, fair point, but that is kinda irrelevant as I have no interest in PC gaming whatsoever. So Portal is a much cheaper alternative.

Yeah, that’s fair. If most of your gaming is on PS5, that’s not a bad deal all in all.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I'd just remote play to my smartphone or tablet (devices most people own multiple of)
even buying a 2nd dedicated gaming phone for remote play makes more sense

Why would I buy a second phone just for RemotePlay?
Also, Portal has a larger screen than mobile phones and is integrated into DualSense.

 

[consoul]

 

[Loxus]

Despite this coming from MLiD.
Can't deny this would be a good product.

Being able to play console level games on the go without an internet from Sony would work wonders right now.

I can see them naming it PS Portal 2.

 

[SScorpio]

The only way I could see this happening is by having two performance SKUs like Microsoft does with the Series S and X. You'd have the powerful home console and a weaker hybrid handheld.

The Steam Deck has the same architecture as the PS5 and XSX and can run PS5 only games like Ratchet and Clank. With how wildly successful the Switch has been, as well as the Steam Deck showing that level of power is possible in your hand. I'd would be very surprised if Sony wasn't prototyping a possible handheld, it would just need to run the same games that the PS6 does as you can't do split development as Nintendo learned with the 3DS and Wii U. That's why Sony killed the Vita, to throw all their development studios at creating PS4 content.