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Possibly getting $2000 Toward a Guitar

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A family friend on my dads side, who lives 2 doors down from him, is dying of prostate cancer. He is an avid guitar player who is selling a vintage SG from IIRC, the 1950s for $3000.

It still says Les Paul on the top, and is in relatively good condiction...

$1000 over my price limit...
 
I wouldn't bother spending that kind of cash unless you are either (a) stupidly rich (b) suitable profficient (c) currently touring.

Seriously, unless you are some kind of maestro or have cash coming out the wazoo, you'd be as well off with a more sensibly priced guitar.
 

yoshifumi

Banned
yea unless this is 2000 bucks you can only spend on a guitar, don't spend that much money on a guitar unless you're some kind of musical genius
 

skip

Member
I'd love a les paul. that said, I'd put that money towards a lower-priced guitar, and spend the rest on effects pedals.
 
Alright, so what's a great quality guitar that costs $1000? The rest I will spend on a Line 6 amp and multiaffects pedal.
 

SlickWilly223

Time ta STEP IT UP
No point spending that much money on a guitar. My friend bought a $2000 bass and a $600 amp and let me tell you it was the biggest waste of money he's ever spent, and it's sad to hear him deny it.

As far as I'm concerned he can't play bass well to begin with and there's no point for him spending that much money on an amp too since his parents won't let him play it loud anyway.

Fucking idiot.
 

NLB2

Banned
2000 bucks? You could buy one of these instead.
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Mr. E. Yis said:
Why are you going to spend that kind of money on something you don't know how to use?? Get lessons first.

You have no idea of my playing ability or how long I've been playing.

I have natural skill, and I'm taking lessons on how to read music. I play pretty avidly and have quite a bit of potential.
 
If you wanted to spend 2k on a guitar, I'd reccomend an Ernie Ball/Music Man (I have JPM). Build quality is superb(atleast as good as PRS, Gibson, etc...probably higher), loaded with features (piezo's, coil taps, dual output's, FANTASTIC bridge that holds tune seemingly forever), and it's just a gorgeus guitar to look at. Oh, and the sound is pure sex.

If you're more toward the $1000 range, that thats still okay. Still some great guitars to be had in that range. Just searching musicians friend theres several gibsons (sg's and les pauls both) in that range, and also american series fender strats which are obviously nice.

The best thing you can do though is get off the computer, go to a store, and try lots of guitars and see what FEELS best. That is probably the most important thing in a guitar, because you can always swap pickups and things to modify the sound. You just need to find a guitar that falls right into your hands and just feels PERFECT. For taht amount of money, you shouldn't have to make compromises.

And since you havent mentioned how long have you been playing and what is your general skill level.
 

SlickWilly223

Time ta STEP IT UP
Lemurnator said:
You have no idea of my playing ability or how long I've been playing.

I have natural skill, and I'm taking lessons on how to read music. I play pretty avidly and have quite a bit of potential.

Unless your on the 6 o'clock news for being a child prodigy that can play the guitar like Hendrix, than let me say that you really don't want to spend that much money on a guitar.

Hell, it's a $2,000 investment, and you're asking people for advicet? Fuck that, clearly you don't know what you're doing in the first place. That's like those rich kids who come to this board asking for what kind of computer they should get to play all the top games, and then when somebody asks "What's your price range" the child responds "Money is not an issue."

Well screw that, because if you're going to be spending that kind of money on some kind of device, you should know a little bit about that device before hand.
 

drohne

hyperbolically metafictive
if you want a les paul, buy a used lp studio. beyond that point, you're mainly paying for cosmetics.
 
Badabing said:
Unless your on the 6 o'clock news for being a child prodigy that can play the guitar like Hendrix, than let me say that you really don't want to spend that much money on a guitar.

Hell, it's a $2,000 investment, and you're asking people for advicet? Fuck that, clearly you don't know what you're doing in the first place. That's like those rich kids who come to this board asking for what kind of computer they should get to play all the top games, and then when somebody asks "What's your price range" the child responds "Money is not an issue."

Well screw that, because if you're going to be spending that kind of money on some kind of device, you should know a little bit about that device before hand.

I'm pretty much buying it on my own with the money I'm getting from doing the runway modelling show. My dad would just give me the money early and I'd pay him back whatever I made.
 

SlickWilly223

Time ta STEP IT UP
All I'm trying to say is:

You don't need a $2000 guitar. Zakk Wylde and Yngwie Malmsteen might, but not people like you or me. I have some pretty good natural talent too and I've been playing guitar for about 4 years, but I still don't think I'm ready for a $2000 guitar because at this point time people my age can save our money for other things, and I'd be out of my league if I bought it anyway.

By all means buy a guitar that fits you, but don't spend too much money on it. You can spend your cash a little more wisely. I'd be quicker to invest in a Roth IRA before I bought a guitar for that much money.

But I'm not going to bother you anymore, I'm just throwing in my $0.02 and I'm not trying to put you down or anything. Just think about what I said, though. Also, revert back to my first post in this thread. My friend has been playing bass for about 5 years. He's alright, I think he plays average but my other friends think he's pretty good. Sure, he gets some good bass lines here or there, but he's not Les Claypool, and he doesn't tour or play in any band. Do you think he needs that Warwick Bass? The answer is no, and now he's out $2600. He wanted to buy a new car this year, but he's got that bass instead.

And I wouldn't suggest Line 6 amps. I bought one, and it doesn't sound too good when I crank it up. I've certainly heard better amps. Then again I'm not playing to crowds of people so I don't mind that much. I can live with it.
 
Also, while we're at it, I'd reccomend something other than a line 6. They have a very processed sound to my ears and just don't really sound that good. They don't record well either...listen symphony x for evidence of that (michael romeo uses a line 6, and imo, sounds like shit (although he himself is a fantastic guitarist)). A decent tube amp is MUCH better than a good solid state amp.
 
"My friend has been playing bass for about 5 years. He's alright, I think he plays average but my other friends think he's pretty good. Sure, he gets some good bass lines here or there, but he's not Les Claypool, and he doesn't tour or play in any band. Do you think he needs that Warwick Bass? The answer is no, and now he's out $2600. He wanted to buy a new car this year, but he's got that bass instead."

I dunno, if someone loves the Warwick tone and sound and feel, why not? I'm not Flea, but I'll be damned if I'm not going to have a Stingray because of the fact. There's more to guitars than just the price, you know.


I second Morbid's suggestion to go to a store, sit down, and play everything on the shelf that tickles your fancy.
 

KiNeSiS

Banned
Lemurnator said:
I'm looking into some kind of Gibson SG or Gibson Les Paul.

I want to know what is the best I can get for the money.... I've looked into the LP '61 reissue because of it's thinner neck, but I'm not sure how well received it is, if it's worth the money or if a standard is better.

My mind is racing.

GAF, I NEED YOUR HELP!

Listen we don't need any more guitar players like we don't need any more wack rappers.
If you don't already do this stop, you'll quit anyway.
Give that money to the poor rich muthafucka!
 

fart

Savant
all you need is something solid that feels good. when i started playing my dad gave me his old dreadnaught and we bought an el cheapo korean strat. i still have and play both. my friend who goes through guitars like water on the other hand has run through a ton of money and really doesn't have much to show for it (since ultimately he's just dicking around like me).

that's not really the point though. even if you're remarkably serious about playing, the fancy guitar is just a luxury. my first teacher used to talk about how she'd play anything she could get her hands on, all that mattered was the feel and the music. music really is one of those few pure things that is 90-100% human, and that's not something you should forget when you're starting out.
 

SlickWilly223

Time ta STEP IT UP
Tre said:
"My friend has been playing bass for about 5 years. He's alright, I think he plays average but my other friends think he's pretty good. Sure, he gets some good bass lines here or there, but he's not Les Claypool, and he doesn't tour or play in any band. Do you think he needs that Warwick Bass? The answer is no, and now he's out $2600. He wanted to buy a new car this year, but he's got that bass instead."

I dunno, if someone loves the Warwick tone and sound and feel, why not? I'm not Flea, but I'll be damned if I'm not going to have a Stingray because of the fact. There's more to guitars than just the price, you know.


I second Morbid's suggestion to go to a store, sit down, and play everything on the shelf that tickles your fancy.

First, let's just call my friend "John" for right now. Anyway, to answer you question....

Why not? He pulled a Lermunator. He doesn't know jack shit about Warwicks to begin with. One of his other friends basically said that they wanted to buy a Warwick for themselves. My friend researched it, saw it and thought it looked cool so he bought it on the basis of a bunch of reasons, none of which really justified his $2000 investment. Let me restate that: He never touched a Warwick before he bought one. Now if Lemernuator or John actually sat down with one of these fine instruments before asking ANY of these questions and thought to themselves "Gee, this sounds good. In fact, I can really see myself making my own kind of sound with one of these" I'd say "FUCKIN AWESOME JOHN, AWESOME LERMUNATOR!!" and I might even pat them on the back and I wouldn't question the way they spend their money.

But no. That didn't happen. They're going by word of mouth and research, which is a no-no when it comes to a lot of things, music being one of them. We all sound different on our instruments, so you gotta shop around and get some hands on experience with these things before you start saying "Well I want a thinner neck on my guitar..." because you are the only one who knows whether or not you want a thin guitar neck. They make those things for a reason, figure it out yourself.


I'm with you on that one though. Go to a store sit down and find what you like, but John didn't do that. He basically saw it behind the glass and said "I want that one."

Apparently John is also in the self-proclaimed market for a classic Jackson Randy Rhoades flying-V. That's cool, I want one too, but I never even touched one so I'm not even considering purchasing one, and that's on top of the price. I'm not going to be playing like Randy Rhoades for another 40 years, so I'm not going to buy a piece of his legacy just yet.
 

White Man

Member
Fender Jaguar.

I'll live vicariously through you.

<cries over lost guitar>

And use the rest to get yourself a nice VOX amp.
 
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