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Pragmata Demo Switch 2 vs Base PS5 Graphics Comparison + FPS Test
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Lokaum D+
Member
didnt knew you were a PC gamer, congratsBasically this console
MayauMiao
Member
It's not just DLSS, which is absolutely brilliant tech, but it seems the Series S is using significantly lower texture settings, maybe due to its RAM situation, but even then, 9gb of slower ram vs 8 gb of faster RAM. It looks like developers really don't give 2 shits about optimizing games for the Series S anymore because, At least in texture settings, Series S should not be getting trounced like this. I mean, concerns were replayed to Microsoft regarding the Series S at the start of the gen, and now with Microsoft basically giving up, developers see the writing on the wall, it seems devs are just putting their games on the Series S at this point without diverting serious resources for targeted optimizations.DLSS is a beast.
Many were expecting something like this, but alas, DLSS is too strong.
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Series S was a mistake from the start, but I mean its 9gb of slow ram vs 8gb of faster ram available for games between the Switch 2 and Series S. The Series S should not be getting trounced in texture quality atleast with the hardware available. It looks like a case of optimization prioroties developers see the writing on the wall; devs aren't going to go through any real hassle when putting their games on the Series S at this point and arent diverting serious resources for targeted optimizations. Series S will be the main platform for Microsoft as it is easily swappable with the ps5 main build and as long as it runs on the Series S, well, good enough.
I mean its not an admirable look for devs, but well, the Switch 2 has the potential to reach over 100million users, and the payoff is definitely worth it. Meanwhile, with the Series in general, sales aren't even remotely sustainable, and devs will basically say ef it with the Series S at this point since devs see Microsoft basically all but closing the chapter on the X series.
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Baemono
Member
Switch 2 uses DLSS, Series S uses Copilot
Mownoc
Member
Exactly this. We had FF7:R having better textures on Series S than Switch 2 for example. The ram difference between Series S and Switch 2 isn't that big of a deal that it should have a massive impact. They're just not bothering to optimise the Series S version as much lol.
Nintendo brand magic; as always work particularly spectacular for some eyes. Even dated tech on switch 2 can appear better thanks to Nintendo.Why does she have a more detailed coat on switch 2? DLSS magic ?
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Seem a legitim source. Hope no one find an excuse to blame you about something, people can be really terrible there.
Lokaum D+
Member
following this logic, this must be switch 2 versions right ?
Therefore:
PS5 version:
PC version:
RoboFu
One of the green rats
I played through both the steam demo and switch 2. While of course the steam demo looks better than any console they both played exactly the same thanks to a high frame rate. They made the right choice.
The one bad thing about this game is if you are someone who plays a lot of different platforms all the time you forget which button is which. lol.
I will say the more I play the demo the more I enjoy it.
The one bad thing about this game is if you are someone who plays a lot of different platforms all the time you forget which button is which. lol.
I will say the more I play the demo the more I enjoy it.
Oh it was should had put in nothing less than 14GB
omegasc
Member
RT on the Pro seems to be up a notch from base/SX. PSSR's usual weak point with RT is present as well.
REngine is performing better on PS5 in this game. It usually favors Series X, doesn't it?
Bojji
Member
RE4 was running with higher FPS (maybe even resolution as well) on base PS5 vs. SX.
LordOcidax
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Boy bawang
Member
Get ready for more and more games looking better on Switch 2 than on Series S. Not only will DLSS improve with time, but developers are going to get more familiar with the hardware while they have already plateaued with the Series S.
This was inevitable. I think that Witcher 4 is going to be the fnal nail in the coffin as CDPR is going to try flexing on Switch 2.
This was inevitable. I think that Witcher 4 is going to be the fnal nail in the coffin as CDPR is going to try flexing on Switch 2.
You are talking about capcom they made SF6 look better on base ps4 then series s. dlss is not magic when a dev uses proper TAA it should look better then a weaker switch 2 just look at most games comparisons. game is running terrible on switch 2 in docked mode without VRR its gonna be bad experience maybe when it comes out they will fix the series s version and the switch 2 fps since they still have months before release. if they ship it like this for both system it just shows capcom is a very incompetent dev for weaker hardware.
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It's probably a bug on PS5 version, I have seen other Pro footage and the shadows are there.
Way more aliasing in this area on base consoles
RT boiling present on Pro
Where are the shadows?
LordOcidax
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Bojji
Member
I played the demo ~30 minutes ago and shadows weren't there on Pro. PC version has them:
Both versions also have the same RT artifacts.
Edit: Looks like they changed some localization details between PC demo and PS5 demo, interesting.
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thatJohann
Member
Played the switch 2 version for a bit, looks and feels great.
Looks like a solid port.
Looks like a solid port.
the video is right there watch the boss battle its dropping to 40fps often with no VRR how the fuck is that good?
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Evil Calvin
Afraid of Boobs
Is the demo called 'sketchbook' for some reason?
Mr Moose
Member
Switch 2 slapping the Series S in the face. Pro looks and performs well but possibly missing shadows? (Due to different lighting maybe?).
Bojji
Member
Yes.
Little Mac
Member
Honestly, I was more impressed by the gameplay than the visuals on my PS5 Pro. Maybe I did the initial calibration set up wrong or my TV just sucks. Either way I played the demo twice and kinda want to do it again.
Truthtellers
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Roman Empire
Member
That Series S footage is rough. Just phase out that console.
The results are very similar to other Capcom games... even the texture problems on XSS as it was for SF6.
The shadows in Pro are also curious. It could be due to differences in lighting, but it doesn't make sense that a light source would cast shadows on the character but not on the enemy.
PS. Curious that there is no resolution data for BrazilPixel in this video.
Pragmata use REngine? Or the Monster Hunter? I dont remember if all new Capcom games are REngine now.
Resident Evil 4 was a curious case because the native resolution and fps on PS5 was some higher, but the image quality on Xbox Series X was much better due to the upscaling method and better VRR. They released several patches trying to equalize both version (resolution, FPS) but ultimately left each version (and rightly so) as it was at launch.
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saintjules
Gold Member
Man, hair looks kinda rough.
I found it funny that there was someone on here that couldn't tell the difference.
Radical_3d
Member
Well, that thing sold half the Series install base in just 6 months.
Resolution mode at 60 in 5 year old consoles. What a time to be alive.
Mozza
Member
It looks pretty sharp on Switch 2, however I will be getting RE9, and will most probably wait for a sale for this.
omegasc
Member
Pragmata uses REngine, yes.
Bojji
Member
I don't see any modes to select on Pro. Base versions have them?
it has nothing to do with the ram. SF6 has the same problem on series s while ps4 does not.
David_Android
Neo Member
why do people compare handhelds to stationary consoles just as stupid as comparing consoles to pc.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
To know the differences between versions and what to expect from them.
David_Android
Neo Member
it makes no sense.
Interesting, capcom clearly realises it worth putting more resources into optimising switch 2 version than the series s, more sales, right move too, series s was a disgrace & never should have launched.
I'd like to see how the ps5 pro demo version stacks up to the release build as by then the new pssr model will be out & we should be seeing a better pragmata
I'd like to see how the ps5 pro demo version stacks up to the release build as by then the new pssr model will be out & we should be seeing a better pragmata
Topher
Identifies as young
Evaluating how the same game looks on various platforms has been going on for a few decades now. If you don't like comparison threads then this thread isn't for you, I guess.
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omegasc
Member
Just finished the demo. 22 min. Pretty good!
No graphics modes on the Pro. You can turn off chromatic aberration.
Not a lot to complain, the RT reflections boiling is most noticeable during that quick cutscene. Shadow was missing too, probably a bug. Kid's hair gets a little blurry when moving fast but most noticeable if moving the camera with the char standing still.
Here's hope PSSR 2.0 doesn't have the same issues and the game gets support.
No graphics modes on the Pro. You can turn off chromatic aberration.
Not a lot to complain, the RT reflections boiling is most noticeable during that quick cutscene. Shadow was missing too, probably a bug. Kid's hair gets a little blurry when moving fast but most noticeable if moving the camera with the char standing still.
Here's hope PSSR 2.0 doesn't have the same issues and the game gets support.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Base version have Performance and Quality modes, Quality runs unlocked to 60 and has RT. Seems like it's always within the VRR window (on Xbox at least) so I think that's the one I'll stick with.
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also, wtf is going on with the Series S version, why does it look so much worse than Switch 2 despite running higher resolution(s) ?
