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Pragmata PC Performance Raises Concerns for 8 GB GPU Users, Digital Foundry Reports

Adjusting settings like textures, ray tracing, or hair strand effects could alleviate some of the pressure, but these elements are also central to the game's visual identity.

Anyone using an 8gb card should already know there will be sacrifices. It's not ideal but I wish instead of just throwing this out there, they would have made some of the sacrifices to show what people are giving up by using an 8gb card.
 
Lmfao

The article literally doesn't test or even mention performance at the resolution I'm using. It completely dodges the exact scenario I described: RTX 3070 8GB running every modern 2025/2026 release at 1080p, stable 50-60 FPS, no stuttering, no crashes, no texture pop-in. That's what you called 'inadequate for far too long'

Next time link something that actually addresses my setup instead of proving you can't read past the headline.

Weak af
Even for 1080p 8 GB is often not enough:


Time and again, we've seen 12/16 GB graphics cards outperform their 8 GB counterparts. The 8 GB RTX 3060 was found to be up to 35% slower than its 12 GB variant. Even the newly released RTX 5060 Ti 8 GB was struggled to keep up with its 16 GB counterpart.
In games that have ray/path tracing baked in, the situation is far worse. This is apparent in Indiana Jones and The Great Circle, where GPUs with 8 GB VRAM struggle to maintain even 30 FPS at 1080p.
The argument that 8 GB GPUs aren't meant to play AAA games doesn't hold water because what's the point of building a gaming PC if you can't play games on it? No 9060 XT buyer is expecting an 'Ultra' experience for $300, but if you can't even get to 'Medium/High' without FSR/DLSS, that's a problem.
 
Simple buy a ps5 pro and sell the PC.
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I think what they are trying to say is that with 8GB cards - the VRAM becomes a bottleneck - the card has the compute power to push better visuals or framerate, the VRAM is the limiting factor.
While it's a shame to leave compute power laying idle - the cards will still run the game fine.
Mostly yeah, 8gb in something like a rtx 3070 limits its potential. Problem is many users here act as if the game becomes unplayable or the card is obsolete or some other shit, when in practice what that usually means is just lowering a texture streaming or RT setting by a peg
 
Meanwhile Pearl Abyss managed to run Crimson Desert maxed out with like 6GB VRAM

And game is notorius for having extreme pop in and not super high texture quality, they actually should be using more memory on higher settings.

What is super funny is that they require 5080/4090 like power to play the game with Ray Reconstruction on (with 1080p internal res!), but at the same time they completely waste the memory those cards offer them...
 
Even for 1080p 8 GB is often not enough:

You've now dropped two articles that don't have real 1080p data and have been completely debunked by reality

Please, tell me in your own words: why are 8 GB 'inadequate for a while'?

Because you literally typed 'why are 8gb cards insufficient', clicked the first two rage-bait articles that popped up and thought you dropped nukes
 
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Even for 1080p 8 GB is often not enough:

And thats bullshit


Indiana jones even has a specific setting called texture pool size which alters texture streaming for cards with lower vram. For a good card with low vram you can literally crank up everything but leave this at low, which won't even affect IQ that much since only distant textures would appear with lower quality, prob unnoticeable at res like 1080p.
 
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Unless the hardware prices change, it looks like I'm 24gb VRAM gang for awhile. R.I.P. Steam Machine before it even launches.
 
And thats bullshit


Indiana jones even has a specific setting called texture pool size which alters texture streaming for cards with lower vram. For a good card with low vram you can literally crank up everything but leave this at low, which won't even affect IQ that much since only distant textures would appear with lower quality, prob unnoticeable at res like 1080p.


Indiana Jones ran insanely well on my 3060ti, so yeah, the VRAM was not limiting whatsoever.

as for Pragmata, we'll have to wait and see. RE Engine games have weird texture settings that cna often result in nearly identical looking settings, even tho their VRAM requirements are very different (very similar to iD Tech in fact).

the demo ran more than fine on the 3060ti as well. but of course that demo only had very small and confined areas in it.
 
You've now dropped two articles that don't have real 1080p data and have been completely debunked by reality

Please, tell me in your own words: why are 8 GB 'inadequate for a while'?

Because you literally typed 'why are 8gb cards insufficient', clicked the first two rage-bait articles that popped up and thought you dropped nukes
You're cute.

I'm sorry if the available information out there which contradicts your own viewpoint triggers you in some way. Not my problem, and not worth exerting energy to stay in a pointless argument initiated by someone else. Do what you will.
 
I'm sorry if the available information out there which contradicts your own viewpoint triggers you in some way. Not my problem, and not worth exerting energy to stay in a pointless argument initiated by someone else. Do what you will.
My dude, you're trying to use random internet articles with little data to counter actual personal experience and extensive video evidence.
 
You're cute.

I'm sorry if the available information out there which contradicts your own viewpoint triggers you in some way. Not my problem, and not worth exerting energy to stay in a pointless argument initiated by someone else. Do what you will.
That's the sound of you pussying out at maximum velocity.

That's the weakest, most transparent tap-out I've seen in years. You couldn't even answer two simple questions I asked from the jump

Right now the only thing that's been inadequate for far too long is your ability to back up a single sentence without pussying out

Classic coward move. Can't handle the heat.
 
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Vast majority of console users don't have Pro. And base console version is not too hot when it comes to image quality (it's garbage).

I played the ps5 demo on a 32 inch ips monitor and 50 inch qled and it definitely isn't garbage lol game looks great on base ps5
 
Capcom limited benchmarks/reviews to one GPU only. Not sure how this relates to the VRAM thing.....maybe they figured most sites would use higher end cards idk.

 
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RE Engine games have historically offered great texture settings, including ones that consume almost no VRAM at all and the settings used also don't match the use case for 8Gb GPU's.
 
This guy again? Are we sure he's using the correct platform and settings? Hell, are we even sure this is Pragmata?

It's hard to fuck up when differences are this obvious.

I think in that CP video most of the stuff was correct, he fucked up few scenes "only".
 
Been saying and will keep saying this, 8GB is pathetic even years before so it's even worse now in 2026 and will continue to get worse as more and more demanding games comes.

Not gamer's fault because scumbag corps jack up prices to a insane amount over the years with lame excuses. In a ideal scenario most people should have 16gb of VRAM by now. My pervious PC 10 decade old PC had 8GB which was awesome 10 years ago.

They better start doing some miracle with the Neural A.I compression shit cause even a max out pathtracing RE Requiem DLAA framegen already nearly pushes my current 16gb vram card to it's limit at 1440p.
 
If you have 8gb you probably not gonna be playing at 4k and have a need for maximum quality textures etc, its not a super big deal
 
I went from a 3080 10GB to a 5070Ti 16GB.

Games at 1440p were facing too many compromises already due to VRAM limits.

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I went from a 3080 10GB to a 5070Ti 16GB.

Games at 1440p were facing too many compromises already due to VRAM limits.
i went from a 980ti 6gb to 3090 24gb and i play at 4k

last game i played on the 980ti was days gone
did fine at 4k most of the time, except sometimes itd crash to like 2fps and just stay there
 
Meanwhile, I'm playing Crimson Desert on cinematic quality (no RT) at 1080p with DLSS 4.5 (preset M) on an RTX 2070 at 60~ FPS.
 
Meanwhile, I'm playing Crimson Desert on cinematic quality (no RT) at 1080p with DLSS 4.5 (preset M) on an RTX 2070 at 60~ FPS.
And get objects popping in 3 feet away from you. There's a reason it's light on VRAM, the LOD is shit.

Same reason it's running RT on weak hardware. It's full of noise, artifacts, and is of low quality.
 
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And get objects popping in 3 feet away from you. There's a reason it's light on VRAM, the LOD is shit.

Same reason it's running RT on weak hardware. It's full of noise, artifacts, and is of low quality.

And it remains a technically impressive game, given all the simulation involved..

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