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Predator prequel 'Prey', coming to Hulu in 2022

The predator is totally going to be the reason for the Roanoke colony isn't he?

Also the predator doesn't seem to have plasma in this, it looks and sounded like his launcher fires a form of a projectile instead
 
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If your CGI is that bad just use a puppet, at least it's a real world object. Or at least attempt to hide it through camera work. If you don't even have this attention to detail in your trailer, what expectation can I have for the actual film?

As others have said, not buying the main character as shown. I think it would've been way more interesting if they didn't present her as a hunter/warrior. The movie is called Prey after all.......
 

Romulus

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Reading a bit about the Comanche, how their empire were the dominant traffickers of slaves in the lower mid continent in the earlier 1800 and had frequent raids in Texas and Northern Mexico, I wonder if any of that will be in the movie. :messenger_winking_tongue:


Yeah, you're not allowed to mention slave crimes unless it was committed by Europeans. Even though the Indian tribes were trying to off each other too, it was only bad when Europeans actually had the power to do it.
 

DeepEnigma

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Definitely looks beautifully shot.
 
My expectations were clearly not even close to low enough before watching that trailer. Reflexive, audible groan from me. Keep making movies nobody asked for or wanted to see. Kick this Horizon Zero Dawn crossover to the curb and save what's left of the marketing budget.
 

FunkMiller

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My main gripe with this concept narratively is that the Predator chooses the strongest enemies to hunt, to prove itself as a warrior. Why has it decided to target a bunch of bow and arrow wielding American aborigines, instead of the heavily armed and well trained British army? Will they say it's a weak or young Predator? Or just ignore the contradiction entirely?
 
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My main gripe with this concept narratively is that the Predator chooses the strongest enemies to hunt, to prove itself as a warrior. Why has it decided to target a bunch of bow and arrow wielding American aborigines, instead of the heavily armed and well trained British army? Will they say it's a weak or young Predator? Or just ignore the contradiction entirely?
Are you kidding? The indians are brave, noble, amazing, strong, intelligent, fast, good swimmers, loving and nigh invincible. The British army are low life white males who struggle to hunt a turtle.
 
My main gripe with this concept narratively is that the Predator chooses the strongest enemies to hunt, to prove itself as a warrior. Why has it decided to target a bunch of bow and arrow wielding American aborigines, instead of the heavily armed and well trained British army? Will they say it's a weak or young Predator? Or just ignore the contradiction entirely?

Eh the original movies didn't even follow that logic of the strongest enemies if they are going to LA to chop up distracted drug dealers and many of the random targets of opportunities. Subway car muggers and pedestrians? Anyone with a weapon was a target. Nowhere in the lore is it said they only hunt the strongest, they simply are game hunters which is a pretty broad canvas
 
I'm trying to keep an open mind but it's difficult when you see some glaring stuff like:
- It would be extremely hard to kill a bear with a bow & arrow in that era (and I know nor am interested in nothing about hunting). She should have had a spear at least in addition to the bow/arrow. She's supposed to be this super trained hunter right?
- The actress should have a bit of muscle and less make up. I mean she looks heavily made up in some of these scenes right out of the chair.
- What reason does the predator have to even save her from the bear?
- The CGI on the bear and Predator camouflage is pretty bad so hopefully they polish it up before it releases.
- The tribe using English is terrible at least subtitle it and let them speak a native language.
- The hand axe on a string is "cute" but good luck pulling that corded thing out once it's lodged in a tree with any semblance of accuracy (unless she gets it in the face which would be a nice twist actually lol)

Still hoping it's decent.

the movie will have the option of being watched in full Comanche https://www.ign.com/articles/predator-prey-first-film-with-full-comanche-language-dub
 

FunkMiller

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Eh the original movies didn't even follow that logic of the strongest enemies if they are going to LA to chop up distracted drug dealers and many of the random targets of opportunities. Subway car muggers and pedestrians? Anyone with a weapon was a target. Nowhere in the lore is it said they only hunt the strongest, they simply are game hunters which is a pretty broad canvas

Oh, come on. It's never been made out that the Predator just attacks anyone. It's always meant to be powerful warriors that it goes up against. It makes no sense for a Predator to come to Earth and not target the enemy that will provide it with the most sport and challenge. Unless, as I say, they are somehow making that part of this Yautja's character development. In which case... more than fine with that. Would actually be quite interesting.
 
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Oh, come on. It's never been made out that the Predator just attacks anyone. It's always meant to be powerful warriors that it goes up against. It makes no sense for a Predator to come to Earth and not target the enemy that will provide it with the most sport and challenge. Unless, as I say, they are somehow making that part of this Yautja's character development. In which case... more than fine with that. Would actually be quite interesting.

The yautja are shown to just pick a place to hunt, they seem to go for those that pose a fighting chance, but there is nothing that says they look at a planet and like use DBZ power level indicators to choose the most powerful place to hunt or anything cause even the original movies all contradict this. If we go by later content we learn there is even different groups of yautja who don't all seem to hunt the same way or have similar "honor" code like behavior.

As for targeting the Comanche, it seems more likely the pred is hunting the colonists as seen in the trailer. The remote nature of America wilderness at the time also provides much better hunting grounds than the idea of going against an organized army, cause if so then the first Predator movie made zero sense, why go after some random nobodies in the jungle as mentioned in the stories of the local girl Dutch and company find? Why not go after more trained and more dangerous war zones at the time that were around? The city hunter activities also make a zero lick of sense then when you think about it.

Later comics and novels tried to reason this stuff all out cause the logic of the hunting was a bit in disarray even. Predator 2 makes huge changes from what we saw in Predator 1. The Predators goes and makes things wild with yautja abducting people out of prison apparently even.
 

FunkMiller

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The yautja are shown to just pick a place to hunt, they seem to go for those that pose a fighting chance, but there is nothing that says they look at a planet and like use DBZ power level indicators to choose the most powerful place to hunt or anything cause even the original movies all contradict this. If we go by later content we learn there is even different groups of yautja who don't all seem to hunt the same way or have similar "honor" code like behavior.

As for targeting the Comanche, it seems more likely the pred is hunting the colonists as seen in the trailer. The remote nature of America wilderness at the time also provides much better hunting grounds than the idea of going against an organized army, cause if so then the first Predator movie made zero sense, why go after some random nobodies in the jungle as mentioned in the stories of the local girl Dutch and company find? Why not go after more trained and more dangerous war zones at the time that were around? The city hunter activities also make a zero lick of sense then when you think about it.

Later comics and novels tried to reason this stuff all out cause the logic of the hunting was a bit in disarray even. Predator 2 makes huge changes from what we saw in Predator 1. The Predators goes and makes things wild with yautja abducting people out of prison apparently even.

As I say, if they make a point to explain why this predator does what it does, and goes where it does, then I’m all for it.

If instead it’s hand waved away that a bunch of poorly armed Comanche can take on and even defeat a Predator, then the film will deserve all the criticism it gets. I’ll guess we’ll wait and see.
 
As I say, if they make a point to explain why this predator does what it does, and goes where it does, then I’m all for it.

If instead it’s hand waved away that a bunch of poorly armed Comanche can take on and even defeat a Predator, then the film will deserve all the criticism it gets. I’ll guess we’ll wait and see.

Poorly armed, lower tech, weaker foes is how all the predators have been defeated. It's the basis of the entire franchise
 

FunkMiller

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Poorly armed, lower tech, weaker foes is how all the predators have been defeated. It's the basis of the entire franchise

Not the extent that this film purports to show. But I will applaud it if it manages to convincingly and believably portray a situation where they do indeed defeat an alien monster with vastly superior technology.
 
As I say, if they make a point to explain why this predator does what it does, and goes where it does, then I’m all for it.

If instead it’s hand waved away that a bunch of poorly armed Comanche can take on and even defeat a Predator, then the film will deserve all the criticism it gets. I’ll guess we’ll wait and see.
I don't have deep knowledge of the lore but I read a few of the novels and comics growing up. I always understood them as being more individualized than monolithic i.e. some Preds will kill whatever where others have honor. I think they have different tribes and a caste system with different values too.
 

Billbofet

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I'll watch anything directed by Dan Trachtenburg. I have been a fan of his way back from the Totally Rad Show days.
I'll follow him and Jeff Canatta in whatever they do. Good guys!

Also, this looks really good.
 

BadBurger

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Overall it looks very good. I have faith in Trachtenberg who is a real, genuine fan. But boy that CGI bear was truly straight to streaming budget, no doubt (still time to fix it up), and the actress looked a little too put together to be living that pre-1900's native life. Her last name is "Midthunder" - awesome.
 
I don't have deep knowledge of the lore but I read a few of the novels and comics growing up. I always understood them as being more individualized than monolithic i.e. some Preds will kill whatever where others have honor. I think they have different tribes and a caste system with different values too.

Predators and The Predator went into this as well with different groups of yautja and their different beliefs, as well as their own infighting amongst groups. Bad Bloods were common in the comics as hunters with no sense of honor at all, just savage killers. They later kind of retconned Predator 2's City Hunter to be a young newbie hunter to explain why he was basically going around killing everything and not even things that posed a threat or were of any sport.
 
Oh, come on. It's never been made out that the Predator just attacks anyone. It's always meant to be powerful warriors that it goes up against. It makes no sense for a Predator to come to Earth and not target the enemy that will provide it with the most sport and challenge. Unless, as I say, they are somehow making that part of this Yautja's character development. In which case... more than fine with that. Would actually be quite interesting.

Yeah. This was apparent, especially in P2, where he spared that pregnant girl after slaughtering a train full of strongs.
 

jason10mm

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Was the pregnant woman holding a weapon?
IIRC Bill Paxton sacrifices himself KEEPING her from getting a gun (she was a cop and just in the first trimester) because they figured out it only killed those who could fight.

These days that scene would have set the internet ablaze with abortionists.
 

sankt-Antonio

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Poorly armed, lower tech, weaker foes is how all the predators have been defeated. It's the basis of the entire franchise
Arnold and his crew where not weak, or poorly armed - they even wounded the alien early on. Arrogance is what killed the predator in the first movie, when needlessly getting rid of his weapons and good vision in a fist fight, man agains beast.

Edit: Just to be more precise, Arnold earned this fist fight because of his strength. He was deemed a worthy opponent.
 
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Arnold and his crew where not weak, or poorly armed - they even wounded the alien early on. Arrogance is what killed the predator in the first movie, when needlessly getting rid of his weapons and good vision in a fist fight, man agains beast.

Edit: Just to be more precise, Arnold earned this fist fight because of his strength. He was deemed a worthy opponent.

The predator in every movie was beaten by outsmarting it and never by the use of any modern tech or weaponry.
 

sankt-Antonio

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The predator in every movie was beaten by outsmarting it and never by the use of any modern tech or weaponry.
I don’t know how Arnold would have known that the Predator would stripp it’s weapons and sight tech and play games with him. Its the predators fault he lost that battle.
 

sol_bad

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I don’t know how Arnold would have known that the Predator would stripp it’s weapons and sight tech and play games with him. Its the predators fault he lost that battle.

Realistically, Arnold would have been killed in that film but he survived due to plot armour. What's the first thing that happens when they start their little melee scuffle? The predator starts throwing him around like a ragdoll, it could have just punched him straight in the face cracking his skull and killing him.
 
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