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Presidential Debate #1 |Hofstra University| PRESS X TO SEAN

Who won the debate?


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Cindres

Vied for a tag related to cocks, so here it is.
Is there a good VoD for the debate? Might put it on in the background at work or something today.
 
I will say this, trying to be objective, Donald Trump did begin the debate remarkably calm considering who he was. I was actually surprised by how collected he was for like the first 10-15 minutes. Slow, relaxed responses.

Then, the very first prod from Clinton, and he unzipped and became full on trump. Very good peak into what the guy would look like when dealing with foreign powers. Clinton barely got to the second question before he started interrupting her with catty snipes.
I started the night slightly nervous. Honestly not sure what to expect from Trump.

By the end I was spending half of my time laughing. This guy was such a damn trainwreck. Unfounded accusations, lies, bullying, incoherent rambling as he got more and more irritated.

I was worried they could keep him on a leash. That the very real prospect of losing it all would be enough to sedate him.

I'm very glad that he ended up being Trump. Loud and stupid.

Hillary laughing and her "Woo! Okay..." had me and my mom in hysterics.

Both fulfilled the roles I expected too. Her as Secretary of State, and him as carnival-barker.
 

Raxus

Member
The zingers are what goaded Trump into his implosion.

Basically, she just shot two missiles into the vent and the whole death star imploded.

As expected his financial history tripped him up.

To add insult to injury the bankruptcy and 14 million loan are all fact checked as true as well.
 

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Glancing at their front page, even Fox commentators seem to be giving it to Clinton. Although their coverage is obviously headlining all of Trump's lines of attack on her.
 

kAmui-

Member
Watching this now and for about the first half of the first question to Trump I was thinking that he might have something there. And then it all went to shit.

And now dodgy donald is dodging the question about not releasing his tax returns. Wait... did he just say not paying federal tax makes him smart? I know next to nothing about how american taxes work but that doesn't sound right...
 

d00d3n

Member
I am just watching the debate right now. Trump uses all his time for each question to repeat a one sentence emotional sound bite. He doesn't even seem to try to win the debate intellectually. This is all to sway some dumb people in certain swing states, I guess?
 
Hopefully next time they will appoint a competent moderator and force each candidate to actually talk about their policies in detail instead of spouting political platitudes and ad hominem insults. Must be one of the worst debates I've ever watched.

Belgian national television called it a draw by the way, a very boring and substantionless debate.
 

I'm wondering how the fuck Trump Smiles

Like his chin bone just kinda sticks right under his mouth? I don't know. It looks like a forced smile done, knowing it's a forced smile, trying his best to fake the forced smile, but it didn't come out right so there you go
 

Lucreto

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Listening to the Irish radio on my way to work and they convey the debate differently.

They said Hillary was condescending which would hurt her. She also needed to be more human.

Trump did well in the beginning but fell apart but still resonated better with American voters.
 
Ok I have to ask after that. Why the hell don't they give the moderator a mute button for the candidates microphones. Fuggin Trump would just not stop talking about random shit and they were both so focused on digging at each eachother that the moderator wasn't able to do anything.

Listening to the Irish radio on my way to work and they convey the debate differently.

They said Hillary was condescending which would hurt her. She also needed to be more human.

Trump did well in the beginning but fell apart but still resonated better with American voters.

As someone on GAF who is liberal, but who feels significantly more centrist than most Gaffers. I feel like Hillary certainly won if this was held to the standard of a normal debate. But it was kind of a farce in reality so I'm not sure the same standards apply. Hillary was taking stabs and relying on her talking points as per usual, nothing particularly noteworthy. Trump was doing his normal self aggrandizing bullshit while latching onto the same things over and over like a pit bull. Where Trump really lost points though was the fact he just completely went off on tangents whenever a tough question was asked to completely skirted any actual answer.
 
Listening to the Irish radio on my way to work and they convey the debate differently.

They said Hillary was condescending which would hurt her. She also needed to be more human.

Trump did well in the beginning but fell apart but still resonated better with American voters.

They don't know shit about American Presidential elections, this much is very clear.
 

Debirudog

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Listening to the Irish radio on my way to work and they convey the debate differently.

They said Hillary was condescending which would hurt her. She also needed to be more human.

Trump did well in the beginning but fell apart but still resonated better with American voters.

Shimmy Hillary is very human. As for "resonating," I'm not sure if that's the case when he essentially admitted he was proud for dodging to pay taxes and fucking over his workers.
 

KiLLaDeZo

Member
Ok so can somebody just answer me this question, as I live in the UK. Who does the general public think won the debate?

As somebody from across the pond, to me , it seemed like she (Hillary) won.
 

Trojita

Rapid Response Threadmaker
Hopefully next time they will appoint a competent moderator and force each candidate to actually talk about their policies in detail instead of spouting political platitudes and ad hominem insults. Must be one of the worst debates I've ever watched.

Belgian national television called it a draw by the way, a very boring and substantionless debate.

Listening to the Irish radio on my way to work and they convey the debate differently.

They said Hillary was condescending which would hurt her. She also needed to be more human.

Trump did well in the beginning but fell apart but still resonated better with American voters.

Belgian national television and Irish radio are crazy apparently.
 

kAmui-

Member
I so hope somebody creates a word cloud of this debate. Seriously, how many times does trump say tremendous and great?

All the Finnish news sites I've checked said Clinton won by quite a margin. My favorite headline was "Trump went under the bar that was already on the ground".
 
Shimmy Hillary is very human. As for "resonating," I'm not sure if that's the case when he essentially admitted he was proud for dodging to pay taxes and fucking over his workers.

It was seriously amazing how confidently he was professing how he is essentially the poster boy for laissez Faire capitalism.

Ok so can somebody just answer me this question, as I live in the UK. Who does the general public think won the debate?

As somebody from across the pond, to me , it seemed like she (Hillary) won.

Hillary won by default imo. But I don't think she was particularly strong outside of a few zinger moments. She's not endearing in any way. I wish it didn't matter, but it does.
 

Surface of Me

I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
I took a quick glance at /pol/ and even there the consensus was a "tie". The one place on the internet that will bend over backwards for Trump more than any where else thought it was a tie. Very telling.
 

The Kree

Banned
Listening to the Irish radio on my way to work and they convey the debate differently.

They said Hillary was condescending which would hurt her. She also needed to be more human.

Trump did well in the beginning but fell apart but still resonated better with American voters.

There's no way for a woman, especially in this position, to sound informed and authoritative without being dismissed as condescending and inhuman. They may as well being saying she should sit with her legs crossed when men are in the room. It's horseshit.
 
Ok so can somebody just answer me this question, as I live in the UK. Who does the general public think won the debate?

As somebody from across the pond, to me , it seemed like she (Hillary) won.

Preliminary scientific polls (CNN and PPP) show Hillary won comfortably.

Online unscientific polls are shit. Don't pay any attention to them. No serious campaigns do. You only cite them when you got nothing else.
 
Listening to the Irish radio on my way to work and they convey the debate differently.

They said Hillary was condescending which would hurt her. She also needed to be more human.

Trump did well in the beginning but fell apart but still resonated better with American voters.

It's always powerful/assertive women who get this "mean/condescending/bitchy" criticism
 
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