Prolific port studio says any 60fps Xbox Series S game will ‘easily port’ to Nintendo Switch 2

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Prolific port studio Virtuos has compared the overall technical capabilities of Nintendo Switch 2 to Xbox Series S.

Established in 2004, Virtuos is one of the largest game makers in the world. It focuses on supporting the development of major triple-A games or bringing existing titles to new platforms.

Having previously worked on franchises including Call of Duty, Dark Souls, Battlefield, Uncharted, and Horizon, it's currently supporting Konami's development of the Metal Gear Solid 3 remake.

Eoin O' Grady, technical director at Virtuos subsidiary Black Shamrock (Grounded, Kerbal Space Program 2, The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition), discussed the technical capabilities of Switch 2 in an interview with Wccftech.

According to O'Grady, the overall GPU capabilities of both consoles are comparable, thanks to Switch 2's use of DLSS upscaling. While Switch 2's CPU is closer to PS4, he said he believes "any game shipping at 60 FPS on the Series S should easily port to the Switch 2".

"GPU-wise, the Switch 2 performs slightly below the Series S; this difference is more noticeable in handheld mode," he said. "However, the Series S does not support technologies like DLSS, which the Switch 2 does. This makes the GPU capabilities of the two consoles comparable overall.

"CPU-wise, there is a clearer distinction between the two consoles. The Switch 2 is closer to the PlayStation (PS) 4 in this respect, having a CPU just a bit more powerful than the PS4's. Since most games tend to be more GPU-bound than CPU-bound when well optimized, the impact of this difference largely depends on the specific game and its target frame rate."

He added: "Any game shipping at 60 FPS on the Series S should easily port to the Switch 2. Likewise, a 30 FPS Series S game that's GPU-bound should also port well. Games with complex physics, animations, or other CPU-intensive elements might incur additional challenges in reaching 30 or 60 FPS or require extra optimization during porting."

The technical director is optimistic overall for Switch 2, and even claimed it could surpass the sales performance of its 150 million predecessor, which would make it one of the best-selling consoles ever.

"Given the phenomenal success of the Switch, expectations for the sales performance of the Switch 2 were already quite high. Nintendo has a huge pool of loyal fans, but alongside that, the handheld gaming market is growing right now — and I'm not talking about smartphones.

"The original Switch, along with the Steam Deck and other high-quality handheld gaming rigs, has contributed to growth in this area. Gamers increasingly want AAA games on the go, and so I think we will see the Switch 2 surpass its predecessor."
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Yeah, sounds about in line with expectations. And good on Nintendo for going 12 GB on the ram.

Switch 2 is one of the least "Nintendo" Nintendo designs yet, thankfully.

The Nintendo of yesteryear would have paid Nvidia to etch three Tegra X1s onto a single die and call it an innovative custom design, Wii-U style.
 
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onQ123 said:
Switch 2 2025
Xbox Series S 2020

The rest is just optimization because it shouldn't be any hardware features missing.
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Switch 2 handheld
Xbox Series S console (although a smaller one at that, no battery regardless)

After spending some time with the Switch 2, I have to say I'm extremely impressed with it from a hardware perspective. Compared to my Steam Deck OLED its significantly sleeker and lighter while also getting similar battery. It also seems like the Switch 2's T239 is a good bit more powerful and efficient than basically anything AMD and Intel have been pumping onto the market, which is really really impressive given the Lunar Lake/Ryzen Extreme stuff. This is the first gen in a long time where I feel like Nintendo is really not that far behind the competition hardware wise either. I can see Call of Duty and other ports being possible now without significant drawbacks.

Yea the screen isn't too great and MKW is the only thing out right now but being able to finally play Tears of the Kingdom at 1440p 60fps officially is pretty awesome and theres a huge backlog of Switch games I've been holding off on playing.
 
So games that run at 30fps on the Series 'ss may or may not be possible on the Switch 2.
 
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Gamer_By_Proxy said:
The future of gaming!!!! Now we get handhelds at full 1080p!!!!!

Switch 2 is going to age so horribly.
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It's already dated.🤣

The problem the Switch 2 faces is now there are PC handhelds out that will obliterate it in a couple of years. When the first Switch came out, there wasn't anybody with anything better.

Before the Ninsters come in here and say "Switch will murder them in sales" Yes, I agree. This has nothing to do with sales and most of the demographic doesn't care about the PC handhelds but it doesn't change the fact that the people who do know the latter exists, will criticize what Nintendo put out.

There are two situations where I think I would call the Switch 2 a success hardware wise…

1. Waited a couple more years when many think a bigger leap is coming in the handheld department. Similar to when the Steam Deck 2 is looking to launch.

2. If they were dead set on getting it out this Summer, it should have at least included an OLED screen for the price. This thing as it stands right now is basically a Switch Pro with a shit tier screen.
 
Nvzman said:
Switch 2 handheld
Xbox Series S console (although a smaller one at that, no battery regardless)

After spending some time with the Switch 2, I have to say I'm extremely impressed with it from a hardware perspective. Compared to my Steam Deck OLED its significantly sleeker and lighter while also getting similar battery. It also seems like the Switch 2's T239 is a good bit more powerful and efficient than basically anything AMD and Intel have been pumping onto the market, which is really really impressive given the Lunar Lake/Ryzen Extreme stuff. This is the first gen in a long time where I feel like Nintendo is really not that far behind the competition hardware wise either. I can see Call of Duty and other ports being possible now without significant drawbacks.

Yea the screen isn't too great and MKW is the only thing out right now but being able to finally play Tears of the Kingdom at 1440p 60fps officially is pretty awesome and theres a huge backlog of Switch games I've been holding off on playing.
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In 2025 Series S can most definitely be made as a hybrid Handheld & Stationary console.

Hell there is a plan for a portable PS5/6 device in a few years.

I know things are moving a lot slower than it used to but Series S was the low end model it shouldn't be too hard to have mobil equivalence or close enough parts nowadays especially when the resolution can be lowered & use ML upscaling .
 
Same thing we've been saying here: CPU bottlenecked compared to current gen consoles, GPU around the same ballpark yet a little behind than Series S with better IQ due to DLSS and games relying too much on memory amount or access will have the edge over the Series S in those specific features
 
Too bad that many current generation games target 720p 30fps on Series S and exclude Performance Mode options. Some games even have mandatory software ray tracing.
 
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MicTyson said:
It's already dated.🤣

The problem the Switch 2 faces is now there are PC handhelds out that will obliterate it in a couple of years. When the first Switch came out, there wasn't anybody with anything better.

Before the Ninsters come in here and say "Switch will murder them in sales" Yes, I agree. This has nothing to do with sales and most of the demographic doesn't care about the PC handhelds but it doesn't change the fact that the people who do know the latter exists, will criticize what Nintendo put out.

There are two situations where I think I would call the Switch 2 a success hardware wise…

1. Waited a couple more years when many think a bigger leap is coming in the handheld department. Similar to when the Steam Deck 2 is looking to launch.

2. If they were dead set on getting it out this Summer, it should have at least included an OLED screen for the price. This thing as it stands right now is basically a Switch Pro with a shit tier screen.
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Hmm but Switch 2 will have Xenoblade 4, that alone makes it unreachable for them
 
damidu said:
issue is there aren't many 60fps series s games, shit is notorious for 30 only modes.
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If they're GPU bound (as any should be as they're all mostly glorified static theme parks) then it is gonna be ok, and if they're 30 due to CPU limitations on XSS you can expect it to be 30 even on PS5 Pro
 
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MicTyson said:
It's already dated.🤣

The problem the Switch 2 faces is now there are PC handhelds out that will obliterate it in a couple of years. When the first Switch came out, there wasn't anybody with anything better.

Before the Ninsters come in here and say "Switch will murder them in sales" Yes, I agree. This has nothing to do with sales and most of the demographic doesn't care about the PC handhelds but it doesn't change the fact that the people who do know the latter exists, will criticize what Nintendo put out.

There are two situations where I think I would call the Switch 2 a success hardware wise…

1. Waited a couple more years when many think a bigger leap is coming in the handheld department. Similar to when the Steam Deck 2 is looking to launch.

2. If they were dead set on getting it out this Summer, it should have at least included an OLED screen for the price. This thing as it stands right now is basically a Switch Pro with a shit tier screen.
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Shhh! don't tell them... I tired but they are not having any of it and just call hater for bringing up the facts like this. Personally if the docking station came with a small integrated gpu they could have had a behemoth on their hands. Imagine if Nintendo had made use of docked mode the way people are using lossless scaling for dual gpu frame generation, it would have changed the landscape of portable consoles.
 
The Switch 2 has been a beast so far. As someone who values portability, this is awesome news.

I generally don't use Nintendo consoles to play 3rd-party games, but it's been more viable on the Switch 2 than previous generations (partly due to the hardware, partly due to how scalable games are these days). I'll definitely be double-dipping on Eldin Ring when it comes out.

This is an absolute win for everybody!
 
onQ123 said:
Switch 2 might be the best thing to happen to this generation & developers
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to keep this generation for another 10 years on the ''PS4'' which in turn lasted 10 years? My life is one
In 2033 you will be playing games from 2013 level because of Nintendo and paying $80 for them.
 
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Geometric-Crusher said:
to keep this generation for another 10 years on the ''PS4'' which in turn lasted 10 years? My life is one
In 2033 you will be playing games from 2013 level because of Nintendo and paying $80 for them.
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You do understand that PC / Laptops exist even if there wasn't a Switch 2 or Series S right?
 
MicTyson said:
It's already dated.🤣

The problem the Switch 2 faces is now there are PC handhelds out that will obliterate it in a couple of years. When the first Switch came out, there wasn't anybody with anything better.
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For $450, nothing beats the Switch 2 for that value, the Z2 Extreme costs over double the money and only slightly edges out at much higher power consumption and worse battery. The Switch 2 is arguably the most efficient gaming APU on the market.
Also, this is a fucking dumb as shit argument given that this logic applies to literally any piece of computer hardware. The 360/PS3/PS4/One were quickly outclassed by PC hardware, the PS4/One were downright underpowered.

onQ123 said:
In 2025 Series S can most definitely be made as a hybrid Handheld & Stationary console.

Hell there is a plan for a portable PS5/6 device in a few years.

I know things are moving a lot slower than it used to but Series S was the low end model it shouldn't be too hard to have mobil equivalence or close enough parts nowadays especially when the resolution can be lowered & use ML upscaling .
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ITT: People know literally nothing about the state of mobile computing hardware.

Right now, the best x86 portable APU in terms of just raw performance is still significantly weaker than a Series S, and is only mildly faster than the Switch 2 (and even then its arguably a toss up, theres very little proper comparison beyond Cyberpunk).
Plus, its an x86 APU, not ARM like the Switch/Switch 2 is, that alone is going to make it significantly harder to work as an efficient handheld device without it succumbing to the same problems as other non-Steam Deck handhelds on the market (i.e. extremely expensive, pisses battery like crazy, and with 17w it isn't performant enough, especially AMD's APUs).
 
Good enough for me.

I don't need my games to be in 4K or raytraced so long as they're still fun. In my time I've played everything from Doom on SNES to Doom 3 on OG Xbox to COD on Wii to Witcher 3 on Switch 1, if anything I find it fascinating to see how devs manage to squeeze games on hardware they were never designed for.
 
Xdrive05 said:
Yeah, sounds about in line with expectations. And good on Nintendo for going 12 GB on the ram.

Switch 2 is one of the least "Nintendo" Nintendo designs yet, thankfully.

The Nintendo of yesteryear would have paid Nvidia to etch three Tegra X1s onto a single die and call it an innovative custom design, Wii-U style.
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Not really ttue. The only low powered device are wii and wii u only a bit. Thats it


Anyway, good to hear yet another confirmation its much closer to series s. Aka: series s lite device
 
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Geometric-Crusher said:
wow just run at 30fps with even more cuts all this for $449 on console and $80 on games
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I know you are trolling. Even you quote is trolling at its own in you name.
Anyway, 449 is very cheap in terms of portable device compared to other pc handhelds
80 euro games were already a thing with sony and microsoft and 3th parties way long before nintendo only not even 80 euro game. Its 50 digital woth the bundle and 70 physical. And you refer to games, while its only 1 game.

Geometric-Crusher said:
So games that run at 30fps on the Series 'ss may or may not be possible on the Switch 2.
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They would be possible with optimazations.
Again switch 2 provide better results in other areas. It has better textures, better iq and better reflections in cyberpunk. Having a device performance that is portable closer to series s is insane arcievement.

Geometric-Crusher said:
to keep this generation for another 10 years on the ''PS4'' which in turn lasted 10 years? My life is one
In 2033 you will be playing games from 2013 level because of Nintendo and paying $80 for them.
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Is what ps5 already did. But again banaza is only 70 dollar and even 60 physical can be found. Not sure why 1. You like to cherry pick. 2. Is already the case with any other platform (the price)


Just leave and stop trolling nintendo hater
 
I'm baffled why anyone would play anything but Nintendo first party on a Nintendo console.

Do you just enjoy playing the shittiest versions or something? If it's the portable factor then even a steam deck oled is better bet. Otherwise ps5 or pc for all third party offerings is the way to go.

The NS2 is to play Nintendo games and I imagine most Nintendo offerings will be 60fps.
 
Geometric-Crusher said:
to keep this generation for another 10 years on the ''PS4'' which in turn lasted 10 years? My life is one
In 2033 you will be playing games from 2013 level because of Nintendo and paying $80 for them.
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Nope, you will be playing games with 8th gen plus graphics because it's too expensive for the best majority of studios to go above the until next gen that they can finally use RT and all modern techniques without high hardware cost or without games not taking 8 years to make each
 
Arsic said:
I'm baffled why anyone would play anything but Nintendo first party on a Nintendo console.

Do you just enjoy playing the shittiest versions or something? If it's the portable factor then even a steam deck oled is better bet. Otherwise ps5 or pc for all third party offerings is the way to go.

The NS2 is to play Nintendo games and I imagine most Nintendo offerings will be 60fps.
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1. It's easier to chuck my Switch 2 in my backpack and take it with me when I travel for work than my PS5

2. Why would I get a Steam Deck when I already have a Switch 2 for that?

3. It's interesting seeing games get adapted to run on hardware they were never designed for, same reason I got a kick out of stuff like Doom on SNES, Doom 3 on OG Xbox, or COD on Wii.
 
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A Switch 2 thread with anything positive? Time for the clowns to come running
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"Ackchually if I had designed the hardware…here's why Nintendo is going to fail…I want an oled" etc etc etc.
 
Nvzman said:
For $450, nothing beats the Switch 2 for that value, the Z2 Extreme costs over double the money and only slightly edges out at much higher power consumption and worse battery. The Switch 2 is arguably the most efficient gaming APU on the market.
Also, this is a fucking dumb as shit argument given that this logic applies to literally any piece of computer hardware. The 360/PS3/PS4/One were quickly outclassed by PC hardware, the PS4/One were downright underpowered.



ITT: People know literally nothing about the state of mobile computing hardware.

Right now, the best x86 portable APU in terms of just raw performance is still significantly weaker than a Series S, and is only mildly faster than the Switch 2 (and even then its arguably a toss up, theres very little proper comparison beyond Cyberpunk).
Plus, its an x86 APU, not ARM like the Switch/Switch 2 is, that alone is going to make it significantly harder to work as an efficient handheld device without it succumbing to the same problems as other non-Steam Deck handhelds on the market (i.e. extremely expensive, pisses battery like crazy, and with 17w it isn't performant enough, especially AMD's APUs).
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So gaming laptops are not portable?
 
"CPU-wise, there is a clearer distinction between the two consoles. The Switch 2 is closer to the PlayStation (PS) 4 in this respect, having a CPU just a bit more powerful than the PS4's. Since most games tend to be more GPU-bound than CPU-bound when well optimized, the impact of this difference largely depends on the specific game and its target frame rate."

He added: "Any game shipping at 60 FPS on the Series S should easily port to the Switch 2. Likewise, a 30 FPS Series S game that's GPU-bound should also port well. Games with complex physics, animations, or other CPU-intensive elements might incur additional challenges in reaching 30 or 60 FPS or require extra optimization during porting."
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One major AAA game that I can think of will be a problem is BG3. It will require some heavy cutbacks in Act 3. Maybe have less objects? Or a far closer culling range? Any open world game RE Engine game could be a problem as well, DD2 or MH Wilds.
 
That's the same interview posted several days ago, nothing new on the horizon.

CPU-wise it's PS4 level and GPU-wise more close to Series S, so CPU bottlenecks will be an issue while GPU bottlnecks will be fine.

This is the first time in years they made a decent hardware, we should give them credit for
 
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