Prometheus holds up very well 13 years later

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I saw it again this weekend. Prometheus (2012) gets better with every year imo. The visuals are simply stunning and the atmosphere is very perfect. I also have to applaud the pacing of this movie; it never gets boring. Some of the actors are also very good. Fassbender is perfect as a lifeless AI robot. Rapace is a great lead here; the surgery scene is as intense as ever. My only compliant is that some of the crew are dumb as rocks, but it is not usual for a spacemovie like this.

The sequels sadly sucked. I wanted more Prometheus.
 
As you said, the crew is as dumb as a bag of rocks which is a horror trope that ruins it for me. The crew in the original Alien movie were smart and competent, it still killed them. That's what made it so terrifying.

Every Alien movie after the first two also misses the point of it - the less you see the Alien, the scarier it is.
 
I would have to disagree. The visuals are nice, but that's where my praise ends.

The pacing is too slow and the story has plot holes my cat could see through.

The film didn't match the nail biting tension of Alien, or the intense action of Aliens. Instead it was just a dull. Boring. As bland as eating dry, stale bread.

There is an interesting plot somewhere in the film, but the problem was trying to squeeze it into the Alien universe.
 
Having re-watched them all recently, I disagree as well, But it's your opinion. Aliens is one of my favourite movies of all time, Alien is a master piece. Two entirely different genre of movies, that both excel. I'm not sure Prometheus is even better than Resurrection or III. The follow up to Prometheus was better as well.
 
ValiantInstance said:
As you said, the crew is as dumb as a bag of rocks which is a horror trope that ruins it for me. The crew in the original Alien movie were smart and competent, it still killed them. That's what made it so terrifying.

Every Alien movie after the first two also misses the point of it - the less you see the Alien, the scarier it is.
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It's another movie where the studio heads edited out important information. They wanted more alien, not engineers. The original had Meredith actively sabotaging her "fathers work/legacy". She hired the incompetent crew.

I would have liked to see more engineer/lore instead of the alien going around killing everyone.
 
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I've always liked Prometheus, but I've wondered if the script was originally written as a standalone movie set in a non-Alien universe and if the filmmakers later decided to incorporate the Alien franchise to get the movie made. Similar to how I feel about Alien: Earth now.
 
I want to like it just because it is more aesthetically pleasing that Interstellar. You can sometimes even understand what people are saying even if they are idiots or religious nuts. But you can't ignore the fact that it is sloppier than a pig in a slime factory. Terrible script. Terrible editing.
 
I like the atmosphere, but many of the characters were too retarded and the script wasn't very tight. I would like a final sequel to Covenant or one movie which has interesting things to say about the Engineers. Other than that I feel like I'm done with the franchise. Especially after Alien: Earth.
 
I didn't like the story personally, the visuals were good, but it didn't make a lot of sense to me from Ridley Scott after the 1st film he did in the Aliens World.
 
I'm sorry, how many years later? Daaamn time really flies.

I've rewatched it a few times and I still think it sucks (not as much as Covenant) aside from the visuals.
 
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In comparison to what's come after, yeah.

Ginger punk scientist man and his idiot buddy and the ending remain stupid though.
With a proper edit we could have had a Kingdom of Heaven situation but nope. Sir Ridley's original cut was like 4 hours right? He always makes 4 hour movies and then fks them up in the edit.
 
Pretentious allegorical bullshit ✔️
Mystery box nonsense that the writers had no idea how to resolve ✔️
Pointless plot that went nowhere ✔️
Boring pointless characters that just eventually died ✔️
Characters that acted like complete morons, far worse than any other dumb characters in Alien movies ✔️

The only good thing about that disaster was the cinematography. I actually sometimes enjoy Lindelof's cynical mystery box gimmick but goddamn, being used on the Alien franchise was fucking sacrilege
 
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The visuals are amazing but the plot and dialogs are some of the worst I have ever seen. There's a gross mistake every five minutes. Let's start for the fact that a couple of scientists convince a megacorporation to travel to the other side of the galaxy because they saw some paintings in a cave (???). Even worse, the rest of the crew did not know where they were going or what for??? And then, the "doctor" Shaw says that she had no evidence of the existence of the aliens but "she chose to believe"???! And that's just the beginning of the movie.

My brain hurts for so much idiocy. The sequel is even worse.

Said this, the movie is really entertaining and looks great. The music is also good. It has one of the best (and grossest) scenes in the whole series and I enjoy it everytime I watch it.

However, the script is atrocious. I just can't believe a pro writer did this.
 
Sonik said:
I actually sometimes enjoy Lindelof's cynical mystery box gimmick but goddamn, being used on the Alien franchise was fucking sacrilege
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This right here. Lindelof and his LOST-trope of introducing storylines without resolving them hurts this movie so bad.
Visually, Scott is a genius. And I´m wondering how such a reknown director still gets told by the studio execs what to do. Grow a pair, man!
 
thefool said:
Honestly, everything made 10+ years ago will look great if you compare it with the dogshit that is being produced lately.
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One of the very few movies I almost walked out of in my life. I didn't only because my friends were there.

This scene, of course, is where I knew the movie was beyond redeeming:

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Beavis and Butthead would have been more believable than those two cretins. And funnier, too. Because Prometheus is a comedy that someone pasted scenes from a serious movie into, and it's not even worth drunk-watching for the lulz.
 
NeoIkaruGAF said:
One of the very few movies I almost walked out of in my life. I didn't only because my friends were there.

This scene, of course, is where I knew the movie was beyond redeeming:

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Beavis and Butthead would have been more believable than those two cretins. And funnier, too. Because Prometheus is a comedy that someone pasted scenes from a serious movie into, and it's not even worth drunk-watching for the lulz.
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hahahahaha yes.

And in the sequel they outdid themselves, when the captain bends over to look closely at the alien eggs, right after finding out that David is evil. One of the dumbest scenes ever.
 
I liked PARTS of Prometheus. I was fine without the fan service at the end, too. I wanted something different than ALIEN. And then, they (tried to) turned it into ALIEN. (And the most interesting parts of Covenant were the ones they CUT OUT OF THE FILM: David's transmissions.)
 
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1) Able to build spaceship

2) Unable to run left or right

This film is a hot bimbo. Looks great, zero substance or intelligence.

The engineers were way more interesting when they were left up to the imagination, this film over-explains them while fucking up important details. The scale of them is way off compared to the original film.

Alien on the right, prometheus left

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Is the prometheus one some sort of engineer dwarf?!

This production should've been the moment where they told Ridley Scott he wasn't allowed to make films anymore.
 
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It's honestly one of the most disappointing movies of my lifetime. I was less disappointed by The Matrix Resurrection, and I felt embarrassed walking out of the theater for that one...
 
ValiantInstance said:
As you said, the crew is as dumb as a bag of rocks which is a horror trope that ruins it for me. The crew in the original Alien movie were smart and competent, it still killed them. That's what made it so terrifying.
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Not so. The captain is absent minded and incompetent. They do not freeze the infected member immediately given they were not equipped for this continuity. One of the mechanics just confirms what others are saying and does what he is told. The other mechanic only has bargaining for a raise on his mind. Ripley is not even smart. Ripley allowed a foreign lifeform onboard. She is just lucky and since she is bossy she tries to take charge at every opportunity. The other female member is just there. The only one that is relatively smart is Ash but even he is not smart enough to do things underhanded and keep the crew ignorant. Most absurd element is that they call the cat by his name while searching a large vessel with a lethal predator when every cat in existence shows up after "Psss Psss Psss" command.

Angry_Megalodon said:
The visuals are amazing but the plot and dialogs are some of the worst I have ever seen. There's a gross mistake every five minutes. Let's start for the fact that a couple of scientists convince a megacorporation to travel to the other side of the galaxy because they saw some paintings in a cave (???). Even worse, the rest of the crew did not know where they were going or what for??? And then, the "doctor" Shaw says that she had no evidence of the existence of the aliens but "she chose to believe"???! And that's just the beginning of the movie.
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The scene in the cave matches other similar drawings in locations with different cultural backgrounds. They did not have to convince anybody as the founder of the corporation made finding alien life a corporate mission and funded their prior research. They already work for the corporation and it would not be strange for them to be kept in the dark to avoid corporate espionage. It would not be strange to have a group meeting to go over the details of the mission either. Doctoral degrees can be academic and do not have to be medical. Modern scientists do not have evidence of alien life either yet governments still fund space exploration at great expense. The idea of alien life implies the possibility of something greater than a mundane Earthly existence.

NeoIkaruGAF said:
One of the very few movies I almost walked out of in my life. I didn't only because my friends were there.

This scene, of course, is where I knew the movie was beyond redeeming:
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The scientist was overexcited about being on the threshold of a major scientific discovery that flipped many scientific conventions on their head. He made the mistake of assuming that the lifeform was non-hostile since it did not strike immediately as most predators on Earth do. Chances are that his space suit was equipped to withstand considerable physical force but not as much as was inflicted by the lifeform. It is not that unusual in sci-fi horror for curiosity to kill the cat.

P.S. The only part that does not make a lick of sense is the dead infected husband turning into a super zombie.
 
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Toons said:
And this was also said 10 years ago about the stuff being made then lol
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And it was true 10 years ago.

But people talking like that in the 1990s and 2000s were usually seen as being sort of snobby.

the 2000s was the last good decade of film. Specifically, No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood marked the last really good year for oscar best pictures nominees.

There were always people who complained "everything now sucks, it was all better before" but in my lifetime, they were always a loud minority up until the late 2010s when Hollywood nosedived. Then pretty much everyone started to feel that way, but then when the Avengers franchise and Game of Thrones both ended in the exact same year, it hit really hard just how empty Hollywood had become. A lot of people realized "holyshit, GoT and MCU kept me distracted from how shitty hollywood has gotten...now I have nothing to watch"
 
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NeverYouMind said:
Not so. The captain is absent minded and incompetent. They do not freeze the infected member immediately given they were not equipped for this continuity. One of the mechanics just confirms what others are saying and does what he is told. The other mechanic only has bargaining for a raise on his mind. Ripley is not even smart. Ripley allowed a foreign lifeform onboard. She is just lucky and since she is bossy she tries to take charge at every opportunity. The other female member is just there. The only one that is relatively smart is Ash but even he is not smart enough to do things underhanded and keep the crew ignorant. Most absurd element is that they call the cat by his name while searching a large vessel with a lethal predator when every cat in existence shows up after "Psss Psss Psss" command.
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This is because of Ash. Ripley outright refuses to let him back on the ship until Ash overrides her because of Weyland Yutani's primary directive.
 
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Turning this giant alien into an oversized space suit for a Bella Ramsey-looking humanoid was a retcon too far. Prometheus should be deleted from the Alien canon.

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I need to rewatch it as some point.
I mostly remember being incredibly underwhelmed by it.

During the opening minutes, with the great cinematographic and music I really thought I was about to watch something special. Then it just kept getting worse and worse.
 
SantaC said:
I saw it again this weekend. Prometheus (2012) gets better with every year imo. The visuals are simply stunning and the atmosphere is very perfect. I also have to applaud the pacing of this movie; it never gets boring. Some of the actors are also very good. Fassbender is perfect as a lifeless AI robot. Rapace is a great lead here; the surgery scene is as intense as ever. My only compliant is that some of the crew are dumb as rocks, but it is not usual for a spacemovie like this.

The sequels sadly sucked. I wanted more Prometheus.
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I thought it was a really good film and didn't get the hate.
 
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