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The Duke lacrosse accuser, 18 years later, admits she made it up

Kraz

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Surprised to read from the comments here that there was such a furor, but I didn't pay much attention to foreign news. It was notable enough to make the sports news here. I remember it as I like lacrosse, and remember thinking the charges sticking seemed unlikely from the reporting in the beginning. The national news service(CBC) didn't sensationalize or editorialize, as it seems to have been done by other services to enrage public opinion. The reports made the prosecution seemed questionable. There wasn't much of a social media at the time to bypass it.

Found an article I read from 2006
Following the accusations, all but one of the Duke lacrosse players the lone African-American member submitted to DNA tests. The results were all negative.
It mentions protests, but they weren't given much attention as they'd obviously be biased by the other factors referred to.

A follow up in 2007 did publish a quote to illustrate her accusations were fabricated, without trying to guess why she'd lie.
"Based on the significant inconsistencies between the evidence and the various accounts given by the accusing witness, we believe these three individuals are innocent of these charges," Cooper said.
He said the charges resulted from a "tragic rush to accuse and a failure to verify serious allegations."

Some of the private owned news services might've reported differently to increase viewership for $.
 

EviLore

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Ownage

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Not everyone will remember, but it was a huge story at the time. Three Duke lacrosse players were accused of rape at a party. Things were *very* heated in the national discourse back then. Even after the charges were dropped and the young men won a major lawsuit, she maintained that it happened, until now.

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The Duke lacrosse case was a widely reported 2006 criminal case in Durham, North Carolina, United States, in which three members of the Duke University men's lacrosse team were falsely accused of rape.[1][2][3] The three students were David Evans, Collin Finnerty, and Reade Seligmann. The accuser was Crystal Mangum, a student at North Carolina Central University[4][1] who worked part-time as a strip tease dancer.[5] She alleged that the rape occurred at a party hosted by the lacrosse team, held at the Durham residence of two of the team's captains, and where she had worked on March 13, 2006.

Investigation and resolution of the case sparked public discussion of racism, sexual violence, media bias, and due process on campuses. The former lead prosecutor, Durham County District AttorneyMike Nifong, ultimately resigned in disgrace, and was disbarred and briefly imprisoned for violating ethics standards.

On April 11, 2007, North Carolina Attorney GeneralRoy Cooper dropped all charges, declaring the three lacrosse players "innocent" and victims of a "tragic rush to accuse".[6][7]

Cooper described Nifong as a "rogue prosecutor"; the district attorney withdrew from the case in January 2007 after the North Carolina State Barfiled ethics charges against him. In June 2007, Nifong was disbarred for "dishonesty, fraud, deceit and misrepresentation", making him the first prosecutor in North Carolina disbarred for trial conduct. Nifong served one day in jail for lying about sharing DNA tests (criminal contempt); he had not given results to the defense team. The lab director said it was a misunderstanding and Nifong claimed it was due to weak memory.[8]

While DNA analysis did not show evidence from any of the men she accused, Mangum continued to insist she was sexually assaulted that night. She was not charged for her allegations.[9]

Cooper noted several inconsistencies between Mangum's accounts of the evening and the alibisoffered by Seligmann and Finnerty, which were supported by forensic evidence. The Durham Police Department was strongly criticized for violating their own policies by allowing Nifong to act as the de facto head of the investigation; using an unreliable suspect-only photo identification procedure with Mangum; pursuing the case despite vast discrepancies in notes taken by Investigator Benjamin Himan and Sgt. Mark Gottlieb; and distributing a poster that appeared to presume the suspects' guilt shortly after the allegations were made public.[10]

Seligmann, Finnerty, and Evans brought a civil lawsuit against Duke University, which was settled. The university paid approximately $20 million to each claimant. The claimants also sought further unspecified damages and called for criminal justice reform laws in a federal civil rights lawsuit filed against the City of Durham and its police department.[10]
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She'd better check her 6 on a regular basis.
 

IntentionalPun

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Obviously being raped is worse but it’s crazy how not far behind being falsely accused of rape is.

Most rape victims do move on with their lives, many successfully. People falsely accused of rape on the other hand can lose their entire livelihood, their friends or even family, and potentially spend time in prison.
 

rm082e

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The thing I remember about this story at the time was how Rolling Stone got roasted for it. It was their reporter who wrote the story that blew up, then it turned out to be fake and it was apparently obvious. I'm sure we all look back now and laugh at the idea that Rolling Stone was considered a source of journalism, but at that time, it still had enough legacy that people took the story seriously when it came out.
 
What IS the punishment for this?

To me, it would stand to reason that you get the time that was served for the person or people falsely accused.

So in her case, add on the time served for the total of whatever the three guys served.

Or if it's a fine, you pay that money, etc.
 
to what end did she do this?

i can understand accusing a celebrity as vile as it is, because you stand to gain a huge settlement. but why some college kids?
Wow, I absolutely remember the case, but none of the aftermath. The lead prosecutor being disbarred is pretty crazy, and I didn’t remember the kids getting 20 mill a piece from the university.
That she basically became a career criminal is probably the least surprising thing of the whole outcome.
I wonder why she decided to confess finally. Did she find Jeebus in prison, or was it simply that the statute of limitations passed the freshness date?
She's prepping for a parole hearing.

Put her in jail.....
She's already there for another crime.
 
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StreetsofBeige

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What IS the punishment for this?

To me, it would stand to reason that you get the time that was served for the person or people falsely accused.

So in her case, add on the time served for the total of whatever the three guys served.

Or if it's a fine, you pay that money, etc.
Personally, I've always thought a false accuser should get same punishment as the accused crime.

It would solve lots of BS cases as they'd not bother. And if the false accuser still tried to pull a fast one and got caught, they'd be locked up never to do it again for years.

In the US, it seems perjury (assuming google check is right) is a max of 5 years. That's ridiculous. In California it's 4 years. With low prison terms like that, it's worth the gamble to fuck someone over trying to get them in prison for 20 years or a giant payout. Out of all the women who reneg on accusing athletes of rape, how many of them even get prison for BS claims?
 
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Personally, I've always thought a false accuser should get same punishment as the accused crime.

It would solve lots of BS cases as they'd not bother. And if the false accuser still tried to pull a fast one and got caught, they'd be locked up never to do it again for years.

In the US, it seems perjury (assuming google check is right) is a max of 5 years. That's ridiculous. In California it's 4 years. With low prison terms like that, it's worth the gamble to fuck someone over trying to get them in prison for 20 years or a giant payout. Out of all the women who reneg on accusing athletes of rape, how many of them even get prison for BS claims?
I'm second-guessing what I said now. In this case, you have someone explicitly admitting they lied so it'd be cut-and-dried. In a perfect world, I would want the false-accuser to get the punishment they were trying to inflict on others.

But how do you prove someone conspired to falsely accuse? For example, if the falsely-accused defendant isn't convicted, did the person de facto make it up? Would there then be a second trial after every trial to determine if the original accusation was made up?

Sorry if I'm not making sense; my brain ain't firing on all cylinders.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I'm second-guessing what I said now. In this case, you have someone explicitly admitting they lied so it'd be cut-and-dried. In a perfect world, I would want the false-accuser to get the punishment they were trying to inflict on others.

But how do you prove someone conspired to falsely accuse? For example, if the falsely-accused defendant isn't convicted, did the person de facto make it up? Would there then be a second trial after every trial to determine if the original accusation was made up?

Sorry if I'm not making sense; my brain ain't firing on all cylinders.
It'd be hard to prove someone truly lied if they were in a tangled situation of he said she said.

But being classified as a false accuser doesn't even require someone openly admitting it. If someone claims something happened (ie. abuse, rape, stabbed etc...) and it turns out the person wasnt even there to begin with, that's immediately blatant the accuser lied. It gets wishy washy for cases like consensual sex or rape because if two people say yes lets fuck, but one person goes a bit too far, the other person can say rape. Or something like two people who dont know the laws fighting in court about property lines and who should pay for a fence or cut down a tree. If both parties dont know the laws and are too lazy to read about it, the loser isnt necessarily lying. He just might not know and needs the courts to determine who the winner is.
 

Jsisto

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False rape accusers are some of the absolute worst of the worst people out there. Absolute scum that should not be allowed to reap any benefits from society. Same for those that falsely accuse someone of molesting a child. Thats probably even worse. Send all these people to live in the jungle or something.
 
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