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[TUROK]

I'm not sure what you mean. If you mean, it didn't turn that guy into the zombie and that it was the black glue or whatever, fine. Cool. Doesn't really matter to what I'm saying.
If you are saying those were not two different types of facehuggers... sorry man. The movie was open ended enough to support my basic theory.
Unless I'm confused?

The Hammerpede went into Milburn's mouth, but Fifield turned into a "zombie."

There's nothing in the movie to suggest that the worms are some sort of Facehugger, but there's nothing to suggest that they aren't either.

Those guys were not infected by the goo. Only Holloway was, and as soon as he fucked it led to the birth of a face-hugger (a real one, not a snake). The goo probably doesn't allow for a human or xenomorph to be born from the goo infecting a squirrel or some such, it has to be a humanoid, which after reproduction leads to a xenomorph or human.

So on Earth, the goo probably infected some primates or whatever, then humans were born.

Fifield was definitely infected by the goo. His face mask melted and then he fell face first into the black goo.

I gotta be honest, your "theories" blow. They're not actually based on any evidence we see in the movie.

 

[Nick Laslett]

I've only seen it once, but still think that Vickers is alive. I thought the way they showed her death was suitably ambiguous. There is a strong motherhood theme in Alien/Aliens, Shaw is the believer, Vickers is the non-believer, I can imagine in a sequel that Vickers basically destroys God and the Engineers. They mention the succession at Weyland corp and how Vickers is not seen as a fitting heir. Vickers basically leads a Weyland army at the Engineers home world. Shaw sees that God was right and mankind cannot be redeemed and needs to be destroyed. She is the Space Jockey from Alien, on the same mission to destroy mankind. Vickers stops her, Vickers will have a child from the liaison with the Captain, Shaw is the mother of the first Alien queen. I can't explain it yet, but the sequence of human, black goo, human sperm, infertile woman, squid fetus, Engineer impregnation, Alien queen chest burst, is a unique sequence that happens for first time in this film. This does not explain the Xenomorph mural seen in Coptic jar chamber. There are no female Engineers, they don't reproduce, they all look the same, they are genetically perfect. The man/woman reproductive cycle, genetic mutation is what makes us human, therefore superior to Engineers and deserving of the right to survive, fuck God we need to win this battle!

anyway that's my theory!!!

 

[Ether_Snake]

Nope. Doesn't work this way.


This makes no sense. We clearly see the Engineer break down, and then we see individual cells undergo mitosis, and then get exponentially more complex. We don't see already existing organisms get infected with black goo or ingesting bits of the Engineer.

They get more complex, so what? So it can lead to an organism that can infect others, presumably. Mankind created in the image of the engineers and all. It had to be mixed with their DNA.

In the movie, the place with the head is a TOMB, probably has the body of an engineer (well, former body, now goo). It was a self-sacrificial chamber, where an engineer killed himself to create the goo that would allow for the creation of Xenomorphs. The giant head is probably in honor of the engineer who killed himself.

The murals show the engineers punching some alien creature, and a godly-xenomorph on the other side, under which is a stone and some circular thing. That's where Holloway realizes the place is a tomb. So basically: engineer sacrificed himself there, to provide the material to create xenomorphs, to go crush the other alien race.

 

[maharg]

It's abundantly clear in the interviews that Ridley Scott probably deserves a story credit on this. He was steering the ship at all times.

Yep, and I think the *story* is good. What's bad is the execution of the script.

 

[linkboy]

The Hammerpede went into Milburn's mouth, but Fifield turned into a "zombie."

There's nothing in the movie to suggest that the worms are some sort of Facehugger, but there's nothing to suggest that they aren't either.

After Fifield's helmet was burned through, he fell face first into the goo and god knows how much entered into his system. That's something a lot of people aren't paying attention to.

The Hammerpede was not a Facehugger, it shared some charastics of one, but it didn't act like a parasite (which Facehugger's are), it acted more like a predator. It went straight for the kill, it wasn't trying to deposit an egg.

 

[Horse Detective]

Hey, been away for a while, not going to bother reading 4 pages of discussion, just wanted to drop some interesting stuff from the prometheus forums here

In this mural, lightened, there are many more inscriptions and if you look to the lower right, you can see the original facehugger design by Giger, they say a picture is worth a thousand words....

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Can't that be what the movie is about though? Is it filler because we didn't get answers, or because we didn't get answers and it's bad?
I hate answers personally. I leave that to nerds who wanna fight about "cannon" or whatever.
To me, a film about people of rationality, philosophy and spirituality going out into the stars to meet their maker and get answer is interesting, but if all they find is madness, death and cruelty beyond the scope of their logic... that's great. Very Lovecraft. I'm down with that. I love when aliens are truly alien to us. I love when people are forced to accept that the answers to life might be pretty sad. Cool themes.

It just wasn't executed well. I'm glad I didn't get a bunch of answers though.

100% this. We can hammer down plot inconsistencies all day, but this right here is what makes the movie so fun to talk about.

 

[Ghost_Protocol]

Because it's a dumb movie.

"What is this, martian piss?!"

"I just got an abortion and there's a foreign body in the ship but I'm not actually going to mention it."

"I'm black goo. If you fall into a puddle of me, I make you crazy. If you drink me, I decompose you and put worms in your eyelids. If you drink me and have sex with someone, I impregnate them with a squid."

"I'm a xenomorph. The engineers have seemingly seen me before as there is a giant mural of me in the urn room, but in order to create me you seemingly need to...impregnate a human being with a squid and have the squid impregnate an engineer...???"

"I love rocks. I really love rocks! Clearly you DON'T love rocks!"

"Okay, you have a 3D map of the area, you didn't go that far inside the area, and you left before everybody else but the two of you are totally gonna get lost. It's not like your captain will help you either, who also has a 3D map."

That fucking scene where that dude yells like a wolf or coyote or whatever. I don't even know, it was terribly dumb.

Alien and Aliens were good movies for many reasons, one of which being that even though the characters did dumb stuff (especially in the first movie whenever they SPLIT UP HURR DURR), they were pretty competent overall. They were scared and had to improvise and came up with different plans. Nobody in those two movies would try and pet a giant hissing alien cobra that's clearly hostile. The closest thing is Kane looking inside the egg, but an egg is pretty neutral as far as potential hostility is concerned.

QFMFT.

 

[Dead]

Seems like the name given to the Xenomorph seen at the end of the film is "The Deacon"

 

[Ether_Snake]

Hey, been away for a while, not going to bother reading 4 pages of discussion, just wanted to drop some interesting stuff from the prometheus forums here

On both sides yes, you see a humanoid figure being face-hugged. There is no stupid face in the middle, lol.

It shows that this room has significance in leading to the creation of the Xenomorphs. See my post above.

 

[TUROK]

They get more complex, so what? So it can lead to an organism that can infect others, presumably. Mankind created in the image of the engineers and all. It had to be mixed with their DNA.

In the movie, the place with the head is a TOMB, probably has the body of an engineer (well, former body, now goo). It was a self-sacrificial chamber, where an engineer killed himself to create the goo that would allow for the creation of Xenomorphs. The giant head is probably in honor of the engineer who killed himself.

The murals show the engineers punching some alien creature, and a godly-xenomorph on the other side, under which is a stone and some circular thing. That's where Holloway realizes the place is a tomb. So basically: engineer sacrificed himself there, to provide the material to create xenomorphs, to go crush the other alien race.

What the fucking fuck are you talking about?!

None of the things you are saying are actually corroborated by things we see in the movie.

Also, things getting more complex, that's called evolution. That's what the movie was implying, that we evolved into our current states, not that other organisms got infected and created us.

 

[Staccat0]

Those guys were not infected by the goo. Only Holloway was, and as soon as he fucked it led to the birth of a face-hugger (a real one, not a snake). The goo probably doesn't allow for a human or xenomorph to be born from the goo infecting a squirrel or some such, it has to be a humanoid, which after reproduction leads to a xenomorph or human.

So on Earth, the goo probably infected some primates or whatever, then humans were born.

The stupid biologist dude who got killed by the snake thing was killed in a way VERY similar to the way the big face hugger guy got did. Tube shooting down the mouth.
It had little fins that opened. It gripped and got tighter when touched EXACTLY the way the face hugger in Alien behaved.
We're clearly not dealing with the same life cycle that we'ce seen in all the earlier movies.
When holloway had sex, he didn't create a face-hugger we recognize either, but a giant squid thing with 6 mouths.

If you combine both of their design elements you start to get OUR face hugger. I'm sticking with two different prototypes.

 

[Clayton Bigsby]

Because it's a dumb movie.

"What is this, martian piss?!"

"I just got an abortion and there's a foreign body in the ship but I'm not actually going to mention it."

"I'm black goo. If you fall into a puddle of me, I make you crazy. If you drink me, I decompose you and put worms in your eyelids. If you drink me and have sex with someone, I impregnate them with a squid."

"I'm a xenomorph. The engineers have seemingly seen me before as there is a giant mural of me in the urn room, but in order to create me you seemingly need to...impregnate a human being with a squid and have the squid impregnate an engineer...???"

"I love rocks. I really love rocks! Clearly you DON'T love rocks!"

"Okay, you have a 3D map of the area, you didn't go that far inside the area, and you left before everybody else but the two of you are totally gonna get lost. It's not like your captain will help you either, who also has a 3D map."

That fucking scene where that dude yells like a wolf or coyote or whatever. I don't even know, it was terribly dumb.

Alien and Aliens were good movies for many reasons, one of which being that even though the characters did dumb stuff (especially in the first movie whenever they SPLIT UP HURR DURR), they were pretty competent overall. They were scared and had to improvise and came up with different plans. Nobody in those two movies would try and pet a giant hissing alien cobra that's clearly hostile. The closest thing is Kane looking inside the egg, but an egg is pretty neutral as far as potential hostility is concerned.

A lot of that is just personal issues. The guys getting lost is dumb, but that's really the only thing. Also, who knows what happened with that squid thing. The Engineers and humans share the same DNA. So one or the other should work the same regarding how the xenomorphs evolve or whatever.

 

[Scarecrow]

How would everyone feel if they did the two different directors for the sequels again, but have, say, the District 9 guy do the action one and the Moon guy do the third?

Looks like there's another xeno kinda behind the more clear one in front.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

It's been 72 hours and people still aren't getting the " let's not be hostile to this entirely foreign alien life form" thing.

 

[Ether_Snake]

What the fucking fuck are you talking about?!

None of the things you are saying are actually corroborated by things we see in the movie.

Also, things getting more complex, that's called evolution. That's what the movie was implying, that we evolved into our current states, not that other organisms got infected and created us.

The head-room is a tomb, confirmed in the movie.

To create life, an engineer must kill himself.

There is a giant head in the tomb, with vials in front of it laid out in a ceremonial fashion.

There is a mural of an engineer in a position of superiority VS another type of alien.

There is a mural of a Xenomorph in a holy-like depiction, above the green stone with the cylindrical stone underneath, where Holloway realizes the place is a tomb.

So yes, I think it makes sense that an engineer sacrificed himself there to create the goo needed to make xenomorphs. When the goo infects someone in the movie, it leads to the creation of a Xenomorph, after intercourse, as expected.

It took very little time to go from goo to Xenomorph. Why would it be any different at the beginning? We have the exact same scenario as above, except at the beginning it was to create humans.

We know the engineers then decided to kill mankind, but when wondering why, David says to create you sometimes have to destroy: hence the answer right there, the engineers were now going to create something new, the Xenomorphs, and they were going to do so on Earth, at the cost of destroying mankind.

 

[Dead]

How would everyone feel if they did the two different directors for the sequels again, but have, say, the District 9 guy do the action one and the Moon guy do the third?



Looks like there's another xeno kinda behind the more clear one in front.

D9 guy yeah, Moon guy can fuck right off

 

[TUROK]

The Engineers and humans share the same DNA. So one or the other should work the same regarding how the xenomorphs evolve or whatever.

Here's another thing. Logically speaking, there is no way for us to have the exact same DNA as Engineers. Even we don't have the exact same DNA as other humans. There's a .5 variation in DNA among all humans, so our DNA is 99.5 alike.

So the writing is messed up there too, unless what they meant is that human and Engineer DNA is practically identical, but not exactly so.

 

[dustytruly]

my cousin brought up a question to me today that i wasn't entirely able to answer:

why did david put the black goo in holloway's drink?

i just assumed that david didn't like holloway and wanted to experiment what would happen if he did it, or possibly david did some analysis and plotted something with the old guy.

i dunno, just wondering if anyone caught something i didn't or i'm just forgetting a part

 

[Ether_Snake]

Looks like there's another xeno kinda behind the more clear one in front.

It shows the evolution of the Xenomorph. The green stone is at the bottom, on the tomb. On the sides are face-hugged creatures. Above it in the middle is the "emergence" of the Xenomorph, and above it is a super Xenomorph (queen?).

So tomb->goo>face-hugger->xenomorph->Queen

 

[Horse Detective]

why did david put the black goo in holloway's drink?

"How far would you be willing to go?" , "All the way"


There is Davids answer. I saw it as a request for permission, in a weird, twisted way.

 

[Clayton Bigsby]

Here's another thing. Logically speaking, there is no way for us to have the exact same DNA as Engineers. Even we don't have the exact same DNA as other humans. There's a .5 variation in DNA among all humans, so our DNA is 99.5 alike.

So the writing is messed up there too, unless what they meant is that human and Engineer DNA is practically identical, but not exactly so.

That is what I took from it. Whether that makes sense or not, I dont know. But thats what I got from it.

 

[linkboy]

Here's another thing. Logically speaking, there is no way for us to have the exact same DNA as Engineers. Even we don't have the exact same DNA as other humans. There's a .5 variation in DNA among all humans, so our DNA is 99.5 alike.

So the writing is messed up there too, unless what they meant is that human and Engineer DNA is practically identical, but not exactly so.

Not even logically speaking, it can't happen period. It goes against all genetics.

Hell, just the DNA evolving on Earth would have made changes to it. That's the only major thing about the movie that bothered me.

You can't have two totally separate life forms with 100% matching DNA, its just not possible.

 

[Erigu]

It's been 72 hours and people still aren't getting the " let's not be hostile to this entirely foreign alien life form" thing.

And I see you're definitely not getting the "let's be cautious" thing.

The head-room is a tomb, confirmed in the movie.

Based on what though?

 

[Ashhong]

Hey, been away for a while, not going to bother reading 4 pages of discussion, just wanted to drop some interesting stuff from the prometheus forums here

http://i.minus.com/iGKxEwAWxL30s.jpg

http://i.minus.com/iPWNqW9enblHm.jpg

wtf are these pictures comparing?

I don't remember them every saying our DNA is the exact same as the Engineers. They said it was a match. The little DNA comparison thing looked different in certain aspects, but close enough to be a match.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

my cousin brought up a question to me today that i wasn't entirely able to answer:

why did david put the black goo in holloway's drink?

i just assumed that david didn't like holloway and wanted to experiment what would happen if he did it, or possibly david did some analysis and plotted something with the old guy.

i dunno, just wondering if anyone caught something i didn't or i'm just forgetting a part

David mentioned something to Holloway about "how far would you be willing to go to find out?" when they were having their discussion about creation.

I presumed that David was simply using him as a test to see what it would do, as part of a larger scheme. When it turns out it just freaking killed him, he never bothered to collect any samples, and his/Weyland's master plan amounted to begging the Engineer for immortality, I guess it kind of just go pushed aside.

wtf are these pictures comparing?

Yeah, those are really, really terrible comparisons.

 

[Ether_Snake]

And I see you're definitely not getting the "let's be cautious" thing.



Based on what though?

Based on movie-writing principle. All things "spelled out for no reason" in a movie are usually to be accepted as fact:

- "They are Bio weapons!" fact. (confirmed by Ridley)
- Created us, then changed their minds, fact. (confirmed by Ridley)
- Cargo hold contains vials: fact.
- Room is a tomb: fact.

Etc. They say it to tell the audience something rather than let the audience figure it out. It's basic, but sometimes poor, movie-writing, since movies are short. There is no point in saying "It's a tomb!" only for that to be wrong yet the fact that it is wrong never becomes a plot point. So we have to assume it is indeed a tomb.

 

[Canuck76]

my cousin brought up a question to me today that i wasn't entirely able to answer:

why did david put the black goo in holloway's drink?

i just assumed that david didn't like holloway and wanted to experiment what would happen if he did it, or possibly david did some analysis and plotted something with the old guy.

i dunno, just wondering if anyone caught something i didn't or i'm just forgetting a part

No, everyone i went with had no idea either. Could be those possible reasons but i can't remember a hint in any direction.

And stop the Resurrection hate guys. It was good up until the prego alien made it comedic.

That half-ripley half-alien kill scene was amazing tho

 

[linkboy]

my cousin brought up a question to me today that i wasn't entirely able to answer:

why did david put the black goo in holloway's drink?

i just assumed that david didn't like holloway and wanted to experiment what would happen if he did it, or possibly david did some analysis and plotted something with the old guy.

i dunno, just wondering if anyone caught something i didn't or i'm just forgetting a part

Nailed it. The part where David was talking to Weyland while Weyland was in stasis. We know from Alien that Weyland Corp has no problem with killing the crew to get what it wants.

 

[Horse Detective]

wtf are these pictures comparing?

I don't think I agree with this, but it is interesting...

From the op

It´s not my preferred option, but I think it´s likely that the xenomorph will in the end be some kind of fusion between an human and it´s suit:

As you can see there are some structural similarities. The protruding organs in the back of the xeno could be some kind of respiratory organ, in the same position of the breathing mechanism of the space suit. Also the "collar" around the xeno´s neck is more or less on the same position of the helmet support in the suit. Finally, the translucid dome of the xeno´s head could be the helmet itself.

Maybe the anticipated "bioform", if real, could be the substance that allows this "fusion". In this case, the xenos never were some kind of biomechanical creation or weapon, but probably, an accident.

 

[Count Dookkake]

Maybe the DNA match thing was not originally as specific as human = Engineer, but was dumbed down in editing.

Perhaps they just meant that we were made up of the exact same components (AGTC) as the Engineers, not that our genomes matched.

 

[linkboy]

wtf are these pictures comparing?

I don't remember them every saying our DNA is the exact same as the Engineers. They said it was a match. The little DNA comparison thing looked different in certain aspects, but close enough to be a match.

When Shaw matched up the DNA samples, it said 100% match.

 

[Ashhong]

David wanted to create life. He believed infecting Halloway would lead to this, or at least some kind of infection. It wasn't out of spite or something.

When Shaw matched up the DNA samples, it said 100% match.

Really? Don't remember 100% there. Oh well, my bad.

I don't think I agree with this, but it is interesting...

From the op

Holy crap that is REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACHING imo.

 

[Staccat0]

The Hammerpede went into Milburn's mouth, but Fifield turned into a "zombie."

There's nothing in the movie to suggest that the worms are some sort of Facehugger, but there's nothing to suggest that they aren't either.

When the one dude tried to get it off of the other idiot, the worm tightened EXACTLY the way the facehugger in the first film reacted to that, the way it tightened was a visual callback. An homage. No two ways about it.
Also, it had acid blood.
Also it sorta' looked like one with no fingers.
Also it shot a tube down his gullet just like the giant squid version did.
To me, this is at least SOME SUGGESTION that he's a relative of our friendly neighborhood facehugger.
Unless the franchise somehow NEEDED more mouth rape monsters with acid blood and long gross tails that constrict their victims. If this is the case, the writing is worse than I thought.

I was definitely wrong about the black goo and mohawk guy though.

It's open to interpretation, but it's not fair to say " there's nothing to suggest" it IS, when clearly from sound design, to color pallette, to it's behaviour to what it does to it's victims it's similar.

 

[Horse Detective]

When the one dude tried to get it off of the other idiot, the worm tightened EXACTLY the way the facehugger in the first film reacted to that, /the way it tightened was a visual callback. An homage. No two ways about it.
Also, it had acid blood.
Also it sorta' looked like one with no fingers.
Also it shot a tube down his gullet just like the giant squid version did.
To me, this is at least SOME SUGGESTION that he's a relative of our friendly neighborhood facehugger.

This guys got it.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

When Shaw matched up the DNA samples, it said 100% match.

Which is offensively silly for hard sci-fi.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

These pictures, these theories, these comparisons...

So crazy I can't even finish my sent

You people are losing me. Space Jesus, tombs, xenomorphs copying space suits, black goo, FLUTES

FLUTES

 

[Horse Detective]

These pictures, these theories, these comparisons...

So crazy I can't even finish my sent

You people are losing me. Space Jesus, tombs, xenomorphs copying space suits, black goo, FLUTES

FLUTES

One of the best things about this experience was how many questions it left up to the viewer. I guarantee a lot of this was meant for us to think about after the fact, given the movie puts us in the same shoes as the characters almost the entire ride. We only knew what they knew.

 

[Staccat0]

FLOOTS

 

[Count Dookkake]

Guys, it's not a flute.


It's a warp whistle!

 

[TUROK]

When the one dude tried to get it off of the other idiot, the worm tightened EXACTLY the way the facehugger in the first film reacted to that, /the way it tightened was a visual callback. An homage. No two ways about it.
Also, it had acid blood.
Also it sorta' looked like one with no fingers.
Also it shot a tube down his gullet just like the giant squid version did.
To me, this is at least SOME SUGGESTION that he's a relative of our friendly neighborhood facehugger.
Unless the franchise somehow NEEDED more mouth rape monsters with acid blood and long gross tails that constrict their victims. If this is the case, the writing is worse than I thought.

I was definitely wrong about the black goo and mohawk guy though.

It's open to interpretation, but it's not fair to say " there's nothing to suggest" it IS, when clearly from sound design, to color pallette, to it's behaviour to what it does to it's victims it's similar.

When I think Facehuggers I think "embryo planters." When I said that there's nothing to suggest that it is a Facehugger, I said it because there is nothing to suggest that this thing can plant embryos or infect people.

Also, I don't remember it shooting a tube down Milburn's throat, but rather burrowing its own body inside Milburn.

Yes, the behavior is definitely a callback to the Facehuggers, but that doesn't mean it can impregnate or infect people.

 

[FStop7]

Uh? It looked like Iguazu Falls, but was clearly in a more Nordic-like area. Pretty sure the thing was CG, there are no such falls in Iceland I don't think.

The scene was filmed at Dettifoss, Europe's largest waterfall by volume. It's a well known place.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Seems like the name given to the Xenomorph seen at the end of the film is "The Deacon"

That's pretty neat.

"How far would you be willing to go?" , "All the way"


There is Davids answer. I saw it as a request for permission, in a weird, twisted way.

David is such a wonderful character. Fassbender played him beautifully.

 

[GhaleonEB]

It kind of was. To go there and meet our maker and ask "Why are we here?" The whole expedition goes there looking for answers. They don't get any. Looking back at it now, the whole movie does, largely, have a filler feel to it.

"There is nothing."

"I know."

 

[linkboy]

When the one dude tried to get it off of the other idiot, the worm tightened EXACTLY the way the facehugger in the first film reacted to that, /the way it tightened was a visual callback. An homage. No two ways about it.
Also, it had acid blood.
Also it sorta' looked like one with no fingers.
Also it shot a tube down his gullet just like the giant squid version did.
To me, this is at least SOME SUGGESTION that he's a relative of our friendly neighborhood facehugger.
Unless the franchise somehow NEEDED more mouth rape monsters with acid blood and long gross tails that constrict their victims. If this is the case, the writing is worse than I thought.

It could easily be a relative of a facehugger.

The worms shared the charastics of a facehugger, but acted more like a predator, then a parasite (which facehuggers are).

It didn't shoot a tube down the dudes throat, it went down the dudes throat. It went straight for the kill.

Remember, facehuggers don't kill the person they're attached to. Their main goal is to deposit the egg, then they die. Everything they do is done to keep the victim alive until its goal is complete.

However, those same mechanisms would be great skills for a predator to have as well.

 

[Horse Detective]

That's pretty neat.



David is such a wonderful character. Fassbender played him beautifully.

Do you think this answers that posters question? Its the only explanation that is fitting to me.

 

[FStop7]

"There is nothing."

"I know."

"I pooped my pants."

"I know."

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

It could easily be a relative of a facehugger.

The worms shared the charastics of a facehugger, but acted more like a predator, then a parasite (which facehuggers are).

It didn't shoot a tube down the dudes throat, it went down the dudes throat. It went straight for the kill.

Remember, facehuggers don't kill the person they're attached to. Their main goal is to deposit the egg, then they die. Everything they do is done to keep the victim alive until its goal is complete.

However, those same mechanisms would be great skills for a predator to have as well.

That's very possible. I mean, we're talking about a biologically modified alien life form. We have no idea how these things evolve or even work. Attempting to apply Xenomorph life cycle from the previous films wouldn't work because we have no idea how the fuck this stuff even works. It's just so alien and unlike anything we would ever see. It has unpredictable effects on different species and environments and through vectors of transmission.

 

[Staccat0]

When I think Facehuggers I think "embryo planters." When I said that there's nothing to suggest that it is a Facehugger, I said it because there is nothing to suggest that this thing can plant embryos or infect people.

Also, I don't remember it shooting a tube down Milburn's throat, but rather burrowing its own body inside Milburn.

Yes, the behavior is definitely a callback to the Facehuggers, but that doesn't mean it can impregnate or infect people.

Right. Which is why it's a prototype mah baby. Just like the way the squidbilly doesn't look like a facehugger.
The thing definitely tubed the dumb biologist asshole's neck somehow, because I remember thinking, "that looked pretty bad"
And later when they did it again I was like, "really?"
It broke his arm, cruwled up his sleeve and went down his neck.
Mohawk guy got acid to the face and fell in the black goo. I don't know their names.

EDIT: apparently it crawled down his thought. Good enough for me

That's very possible. I mean, we're talking about a biologically modified alien life form. We have no idea how these things evolve or even work. Attempting to apply Xenomorph life cycle from the previous films wouldn't work because we have no idea how the fuck this stuff even works. It's just so alien and unlike anything we would ever see. It has unpredictable effects on different species and environments and through vectors of transmission.

This is what I mean. The old rules go out of the window because neither of these things we saw in the movie were the classic facehugger. One doesn't plant babies. The other is giant and terrible looking without the constriction.
So, my theory is that they are different protoypes. MAYBE she left on the ship containing OUR classic version.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Do you think this answers that posters question? Its the only explanation that is fitting to me.

Did he really ask a question though?

But yeah, that's how I see it. Weyland told him to try harder, he's trying harder. He doesn't understand ethics totally, but there's an element that he understands more than he lets on. He's a fascinating character. And yeah, I see it as him asking permission, or as someone else described, giving enough rope for Holloway to hang himself.