Laevateinn
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At this point all we have is his word and that's terrifying enough for me to hope the protestors shut down our economy and do whatever they can.
Protests against Trump in NYC and other cities
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At this point all we have is his word and that's terrifying enough for me to hope the protestors shut down our economy and do whatever they can.
The high schools in Maryland, just north of DC, are protesting in the streets.
WeAreStarStuff
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I remember when I was in elementary school I was told if I accidentally let the flag touch the ground it would have to be burned. I'm 33 so this was a while before 9/11.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Trump has threatened the very freedoms that the flag supposedly symbolizes. Freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, etc. Come January 20th the country will be run by, at best, a demagogue who is a pathological liar and has no set stances, or at worst a fascist demagogue intent on tearing down 240 years of progress.
Of course, doesn't mean it doesn't bother me any less.
The American flag is symbolic of the country, its citizens, and their history. It's an important symbol representative of the freedom this country was built on. While I won't always agree with the choices politicians in this country make, I am still patriotic of the country itself and the citizens that reside in it. Millions died to see the flag continued to fly and any destruction of it tarnishes their memory and sacrifice.
The flag is just a flag. The greatest symbol of our Republic is the people it consist of. A majority of people reject Trump and all he stands for, them showing it by protesting and using the flag to protest is the greatest showing of patriotism one can do short of fighting a just war.
WeAreStarStuff
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Egh; this country wasn't really built on freedom though. I find patriotism as baffling as religion to be honest.
BrutishMrFish
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Yes, and right now, the flag is also symbolic of a president-elect who succeeded in part by running on bigotry. It's symbolic of the people who voted for Trump and the people who weren't concerned enough about their country to bother voting at all. It's symbolic of a man who wants to take away the freedom of the press.
Millions also died to see citizens exercise all of their rights, regardless of whether or not you agree with them. What's more important - the symbol of the flag, or the actual freedoms it represents? To the people defacing the flag, it's likely the latter.
Raven117
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I'm not sure we want this. Shutting down the economy?
Look, I don't like the election results either nor would I tell anybody not to exercise their free speech. Go for it. But you don't want to self-inflect more wounds... (We already did this past week).
Morrigan Stark
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Pffft. I'll never understand the pearl-clutching so many Americans have over their goddamn flag.
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The country was "built" on blood, war, slavery, and genocide...
True, we should honour those millions of dead native Americans, but I don't think they care about the flag... >_>
SaintBrody
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Yes because it's impossible to honor the good things this country was built and established upon while also condemning the horrible things.
This country wasn't built and established on many good things. It was divided when it formed, it was divided after that, and it's divided now.
http://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html
Enjoy.
EdibleKnife
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Always telling how people think the honor for enlisted men is the primary sacrifice made under the flag rather than the sacrifices of the disenfranchised made under that same banner. As Ta-Nehisi Coates says in this speech, it's patriotism al a carte
And yet our society doesn't condemn the horrible things at the same level that they celebrate the good things, which is why we have the division we see now where many people are still suffering under the thumb of people who ignore and deny the worst parts of our history rather than addressing them and actually aiming to excise that cancer rather than nurture it into movements like the alt-right and white nationalism.
What do you mean "riots"?
There are large groups of people who feel they can't just wait for the next election because the elected administration is going to be actively working to remove their rights every day.
The longer we wait for or respect the president-elect, the longer these people suffer.
Glass Shark
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The flag means nothing, and the fact that you think it does means the propaganda has infected your brain.
There's a reason why they make schoolchildren do the Pledge every morning.
gutter_trash
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the current US flag is as a spinoff of the British colonial flag where they replaced the Union Jack with the Stars representation the number of States but still retaining the 13 Colonies bars which pretty much is about colonialism
A flag is just a symbol of what really matter values. No should die or be silenced for a piece of cloth.
The type of idolatry one have for the flag goes against this country "Christian values" since it a form of worship. Attaching so much meaning to is elevation to the status of the golden calf. Christians can love their country, but not the flag.
Since your so concerned, I hope you stop everyone who daily violates the American flag equities codes. It often the most patriot people that violate how one is supposed to treat the flag. Then turn around and cry foul when another express their freedom of speech.
Puck Beaverton
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This country was built on the backs of slaves and the blood of Natives.
Respect it but also realize it's tainted. Every flag is. That's why this worship of symbols is stupid.
Respect it but also realize it's tainted. Every flag is. That's why this worship of symbols is stupid.
I'm not quite sure why people are calling these protests pointless. Sure, he won the EC votes he needed to become president, but I think the entire point here is to rally against his values and ideals that were on display throughout the election (and even now beginning to creep back into his daily rhetoric). He also lost the popular vote, which raises another argument entirely.
This seems more about standing together and showing the country how many people reject what he represents. It's not even about Hillary or losing the election so much as it's about reminding our country that we'll never accept hatred, bigotry, racism, misogyny, xenophobia, and other close minded ideals that work to reverse the progress we've made toward living better lives.
I think it's the best possible time to exercise your first amendment rights as a citizen.
This seems more about standing together and showing the country how many people reject what he represents. It's not even about Hillary or losing the election so much as it's about reminding our country that we'll never accept hatred, bigotry, racism, misogyny, xenophobia, and other close minded ideals that work to reverse the progress we've made toward living better lives.
I think it's the best possible time to exercise your first amendment rights as a citizen.
radios shipping overview
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Given the amount of national coverage and discussion that the protests are receiving, I'd say that they're definitely having the intended effect. They'd have to be totally ignored in the media in order to fail.
The reason the narratives about rioters and professional protesters are so important to the right is that the only way they can try to discredit Americans' anger over Trump's victory is to convince the public that the protesters are disingenuous or otherwise bad people.
The reason the narratives about rioters and professional protesters are so important to the right is that the only way they can try to discredit Americans' anger over Trump's victory is to convince the public that the protesters are disingenuous or otherwise bad people.
Link to video of the Seattle walkout:
http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/seattle-students-expected-walk-out-in-protest-of-trump/467031518
http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/seattle-students-expected-walk-out-in-protest-of-trump/467031518
distantmantra
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Good for them! I wonder if the students at the high school I used to work at south of Seattle will do something. One of their VPs is very big on social justice.
I would hope so. It seems like it's a widespread Puget Sound walkout, so pretty good chance of them joining!
MrSaturn99
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I'm sure this has been discussed already, but a friend informed me of the George Soros conspiracy yesterday. After some research, I'm not surprised most, if not all, of the "sources" come from right-wing sites but at the very least he can't be responsible for all the protests I'm witnessing on Twitter/the news, let alone the ones I *observed in NYC this past weekend. I'm assuming these are more attempts at a "argh liberals are paid-off shills" narrative or some shit?
*Speaking of which, I was really proud of what I witnessed there; not a drop of hate or violence. Even joined with the chants in for a little while.
*Speaking of which, I was really proud of what I witnessed there; not a drop of hate or violence. Even joined with the chants in for a little while.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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No civilian protesting this week has ever gotten a check from George Soros. It's a bizarre/misguided conspiracy theory, like most of that sort of politics.
Metroidvania
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If nothing else, the big thing that absolutely HAS to come out of these protests is the carrying of that (peaceful, not that it should have to be stated) political protest/dissent to the 2018 elections.
It absolutely has to.
It absolutely has to.
He's nothing but a scapegoat boogeyman. An easy way for them to dismiss opposition ("Oh they're all being paid!") and pretend any opposition isn't real.
Most of them don't even know who he is, they're just parroting headlines and soundbytes they see other people say (who probably also are parroting).
Hypemaster
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Proud of my county.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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is this fizzling out?
wish they had a site to know when/where these take place
wish they had a site to know when/where these take place
Seductivpancakes
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Just Trump supporters trying dismiss real issues people are not happy with.
I personally ignore all arguments that are based off conspiracies.
No they're still ongoing as far as I know. At least the people posting new stuff on Twitter. There's even been high school and college walkouts in some areas.
RedNalgene
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There's a march starting in NYC (Queens) over the 59th Street bridge and ending at Trump Tower happening on Saturday. It's being organized by the majority leader of the NYC Council. So yeah, things are still happening....
There is a disappointing LACK of media attention on these protests right now. They ARE still happening, and they need to continue.
For anyone looking for the latest protest news, it doesn't look like the Media will be covering them. Unless the protest gets organized and gets leadership.
Found this wiki that lists and dates all the various protests around the country though:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_Donald_Trump#Post-election_protests
For anyone looking for the latest protest news, it doesn't look like the Media will be covering them. Unless the protest gets organized and gets leadership.
Found this wiki that lists and dates all the various protests around the country though:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_Donald_Trump#Post-election_protests
A Link to the Past
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Of course, doesn't mean it doesn't bother me any less.
The American flag is symbolic of the country, its citizens, and their history. It's an important symbol representative of the freedom this country was built on. While I won't always agree with the choices politicians in this country make, I am still patriotic of the country itself and the citizens that reside in it. Millions died to see the flag continued to fly and any destruction of it tarnishes their memory and sacrifice.
Yeah, being arrested for defacing the flag is ridiculous, I'm just saying it should be respected and defacing it should be frowned upon.
But the flag also represents a lot of terrible things. The flag flew when Japanese Americans were forced into internment camps, and during the genocide of Native Americans, and during slavery, and when consensual sex between two people of the same sex was jail-worthy, and when police dropped explosives on an upper-class black neighborhood. To many, these are the things that define the flag, because if the flag represents our country, it represents good and bad.
Megadragon15
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Edit: wrong thread.
Didn't want to make a new thread, so I'll put this here:
My mom has been having her own protest with what I've deemed as her "Five Days of Mourning." Every day this week, she has gone to work with a different Obama t-shirt on, and on Friday, she said that she will dress in all black (lol), and won't watch a single minute of inauguration coverage.
I was thinking of doing an inauguration blackout, too....but I kinda wanna see what happens.
My mom has been having her own protest with what I've deemed as her "Five Days of Mourning." Every day this week, she has gone to work with a different Obama t-shirt on, and on Friday, she said that she will dress in all black (lol), and won't watch a single minute of inauguration coverage.
I was thinking of doing an inauguration blackout, too....but I kinda wanna see what happens.
ChemicalCutthroat
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You can always just catch the highlights the following day. That's my plan. I don't want to give them any views, you do that, and now you're a statistic for him saying "We had over a Quintillion Views watching me become President last night!".
Yeah, that's true. I'll be at work anyway, but I might be tempted to catch a stream during my break.
DontBeThatGuy
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I'm not watching that shit.
RPGCrazied
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This. Don't give anyone the ratings for this. Trump loves ratings. I really want this to tank and ruin his tiny little ego.
I'm not watching. I won't give them the view. I'll just read about it the next day. That said I think its going to be overly long, monotonous and repetitive and just a dour boring experience.
TV ratings are not measured on normal people viewing.
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