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PS, I Love You- Greg Miller's new PlayStation Podcast
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We have a community thread that's about everything Kinda Funny not just this podcast. It's in the gaming community side though so not sure how much politics is allowed.
meanspartan
Member
That thread is toxic. Even as someone who disagrees with Colin on politics a ton, I would advise he stay far away from there for his mental health haha. The video last week in fact was mostly him AGREEING with the left on the issue of immigration, or at least on Trump's botched EO, and yet people still couldn't resist attacking him viciously, it's not Gaf's best moment :-/
Still, I respect that this is the gaming side, maybe we need to make an off-topic thread of some sort.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
IIRC it was the last part of the video and his subsequent interactions with the person on Twitter that caused the drama in that thread. I'd agree about an OT thread though.
People agreed with him on the Trump stuff, the issue was because of his bit at the end about the 2046 tweet and the twitter storm that followed and him being disrespectful to Rami Ismail.
Edit: my bad mhwilliams didn't see your post
Dragonslayer_023
Banned
The CWR thread is absolutely embarrassing, it's so absurd in there. I think any OT thread would probably end up the same way.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Kralamoonard
Member
I agree with this for the most part. His video was sound until the last part which I vehemently disagree with. Still I think some people went overboard with the insults lol.
ANYWAY, as MHWilliams said, let's focus
Shouldn't PSILY be out any minute now?[EDIT] Aha spoke to soon loool 😂😂
TheCowboyPoet
Member
I wish my boy Ryan Clements was on this
I wish Ryan was on the show permanently
Miller, Moriarty, Clements and Goldfarb was the pinnacle.
TheCowboyPoet
Member
I wish Ryan was on the show permanently
Miller, Moriarty, Clements and Goldfarb was the pinnacle.
Yeah definitely. Goldfarb was a solid addition, maybe it's just nostalgia, but I thought the era of it being just Miller/Moriarty/Clements was the best. The chemistry those three held was great.
I get that, but the notion that we need to limit any and all discussion of Colin to one thread or another flies in the face of how conversation flows naturally and, again, I don't really think it's clear that the topic of Colin Moriarty, broadly defined, is "off-topic" in a thread about a show that he hosts.
As much as I like their rapport with Clements, that would be a pretty weird look, now that he works at Sony. They definitely need a third voice, though. I already really like the podcast, but a rotating (or "rotating") third chair would do wonders.
That was when they were at their best. Goldfarb was a nice addition, but the trio was them at their pinnacle. When they made PSILY I was hoping for them to eventually strike some sort of deal for the inclusion of Clements, as foolish and unlikely as that thought was.
notaxation
Neo Member
I hope you guys enjoy this week's episode. It's really different, but it was fun to record. We thought it would be interesting to give a little peek behind how we do what we do (e.g. how and why we deal with PR, et cetera).
DeviantBoi
Member
IGN fired Clements but kept McCaffrey.I wish Ryan was on the show permanently
Miller, Moriarty, Clements and Goldfarb was the pinnacle.
Shows how far up their asses they have their heads.
I'm glad PlayStation picked him up. The Blogcast is the only PS-centric podcast I listen to now.
Clements wasn't fired he was laid off during restructuring after they fell under new ownership. I have to imagine that IGN didn't have as much say in the matter as you would believe.
On-Topic: about to settle in for an afternoon of work and listen to this week's episode!
DeviantBoi
Member
Same thing. They got rid of Clements and kept McCaffrey.
Funny... I was just listening to a George Carlin bit about something similar...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuEQixrBKCc
Definitely. Listening to it now, and very intrigued by this idea for an "evergreen" episode. Also, pertinent to something you mention at the beginning: I'm really looking forward to your talk with Adam Boyes.
Good show this week. I've definitely been a critic in the past and still don't agree with everything you say but this was cool look behind the curtain. I'm a big fan of these inside baseball kind of episodes where we get to hear about your past at IGN and the relationships you have with publishers, PR and devs.
It would be even better if you could actually tell some of the stories that you and Greg held back on this week.
ElMexiMerican
Member
Very interested to watch this later, sounds like it's going to be a good show
TheCowboyPoet
Member
As others mentioned, Clements was laid off, though IIRC, he wasn't in an editorial position, he was planning events or something like that at the time he was let go, so that might explain it.
EdReedFan20
Member
It was a very good one.
Kralamoonard
Member
Great episode so far this week, though only half an hour in. Now I understand why they call him the pride of Long Island
watch the episode and see how many times he uses that word
just finished listening and really loved it, a bunch of great stories were told there. As someone who started in the industry a couple years ago and deals with some of this stuff too, it was relatable and enlightening at some points
thx for the episode
RedAssedApe
Banned
notaxation
Neo Member
I'm about half way through and I'm enjoying it so far. It's cool to hear about the journey each of you has had through the games media industry. Also cool to gain some insight into some behind the scenes stuff at IGN.
Listening now and enjoying it. Thanks Colin, I'm glad to see you back around.
This episode was really good. Last few have been quite good imo. I've always found behind the scenes type stuff about games media to be interesting.
Also props to Colin for stepping back in here despite the critics (myself included at times). Can be a bit of a minefield I'm sure.
Also props to Colin for stepping back in here despite the critics (myself included at times). Can be a bit of a minefield I'm sure.
Sauce Marlow
Member
Halfway through this week's episode and really digging it. Always love when people inside an industry give an inside look at what goes on.
theindieboy
Member
Fantastic episode thanks Colin and Greg, was a fascinating peck behind the curtain. Hope to get some more like this from time to time do love the evergreen episodes.
Dragonslayer_023
Banned
An episode like that makes me nostalgic for the old days of IGN. I used to follow the site a ton but when everyone left so did I. Colin and Greg were the last thing I was staying for. Beyond, Gamescoop, TRL, NVC, those were good times.
Haribokart
Banned
Great episode, really interesting even though I hadn't even heard of these guys until 2015-ish. Didn't know Greg had cancer.
I must say, I don't like how Colin and Greg address "how can you be objective when you are friends with the people you are covering" every time that subject is brought up.
I much prefer how everyone who worked for EGM/1up address it.
"Of course it has an impact, I'm human. All I can do is mitigate it as much as possible" is a way better approach then "I'm immune".
I much prefer how everyone who worked for EGM/1up address it.
"Of course it has an impact, I'm human. All I can do is mitigate it as much as possible" is a way better approach then "I'm immune".
Hang on, I gotta find some tweezers to pull that unexpected shrapnel out of my flesh.
Hang on, I gotta find some tweezers to pull that unexpected shrapnel out of my flesh.
Lol Ryan got attacked out of nowhere. Love your work with Unfiltered and IGN First. It's the best thing at IGN for me. Keep it up.
EdReedFan20
Member
Hang on, I gotta find some tweezers to pull that unexpected shrapnel out of my flesh.
Hopefully you show up in some KF content soon! Also, I'm sure you'll appreciate this, but it feels so good to have baseball starting soon (good luck to your D-Backs!). The WBC will be a nice thing to watch before the season begins.
meanspartan
Member
Hang on, I gotta find some tweezers to pull that unexpected shrapnel out of my flesh.
Eh. You've only made it in games journalism when Gaffers take random shots at you. Badge of honor.
Kralamoonard
Member
Hang on, I gotta find some tweezers to pull that unexpected shrapnel out of my flesh.
Nice to see you around!
Ryan is good people.
They're not honest with themselves, so they can't be honest with the audience.
TheCowboyPoet
Member
Hang on, I gotta find some tweezers to pull that unexpected shrapnel out of my flesh.
Yo, Ryan, you're doing good work with Unfiltered. DAMN good work. I mean, sure, Ryan Clements is a legend to us, but there's no rule for only liking one Ryan.
EdReedFan20
Member
It's a shame he's only appeared on Colin and Greg Live. I think a Gamescast appearance would be neat.
Just catching up with last weeks episode. Thought it was odd that Colin called the first year of PS2 bad. I always thought it was incredible if the year we're using is from the NA launch. Like the 2001 PS2 lineup is one of the strongest years ever for a console imo.
Agreed. People were surprised that he left acting as if people were respectful in the way that they present their criticisms on him and the shows. When in reality a lot of the topics turn into hatred circle jerks by like the same 5 people.
Agreed. People were surprised that he left acting as if people were respectful in the way that they present their criticisms on him and the shows. When in reality a lot of the topics turn into hatred circle jerks by like the same 5 people.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
It's a fair comment IMO. IIRC the launch in 2000 was terrible and it really didn't start picking up until towards the end of 2001.
theindieboy
Member
Hang on, I gotta find some tweezers to pull that unexpected shrapnel out of my flesh.
You are doing great work at IGN really glad someone is doing stuff like Unfiltered! Make sure to stop by the KF studio when you get a chance.
EdReedFan20
Member
Mods please let me know if I need to delete the following post. Given that Colin is here engaging with listeners about topics political and otherwise, I figure it's still appropriate to continue that conversation, even if you've decided that politics are outside the purview of this thread.
Hey Colin, just wanted to offer this up as a concrete example of something that I think puts you on shaky ground when you argue to me that in fact you don't say that the government should take little-to-no responsibility for the welfare of its people. For all your talk of moderation, the idea of abolishing the income tax puts you well outside of the mainstream. I don't believe that being outside of the mainstream is inherently bad, but I also don't believe that you can advocate getting rid of the income tax and still claim middle ground. Doing away with income tax would eviscerate our already-weak social safety net.
And before you get all hot and bothered about VAT, let me just say that there is no nation on Earth that uses a VAT instead of an income tax. There are nations that use various forms and levels of VAT, obviously, but none of them collect VAT and VAT alone. But that's beside the point, anyway. VAT is regressive and there's no coherent argument for putting in place a consumption tax that disproportionately affects the poor.
This tweet also sucked, but it leads us to a whole separate conversation about the shitty pearl clutching that privileged white folks engage in when vulnerable and marginalized people protest. Even when, you know, the vast majority of them are protesting peacefully. But hey, who wants to see the forest for the trees?
That said, I'm not sure what your exact position is here, so I don't want to go too hard with the criticism.
On a more positive note, this week's episode of PS I Love You was excellent. I thought it offered some interesting insights into the relationships you and Greg have with folks around the industry.
MHWilliams said to keep things related to the podcast here. If you want to speak about Colin's politics, use the official thread over in community. Edit- I saw your disclaimer on the top.