Goldenroad
Member
No. I'm saying people aren't "objectively" good or bad. You don't get to say a person is a good person "like it or not".
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No. I'm saying people aren't "objectively" good or bad. You don't get to say a person is a good person "like it or not".
ScientificPizza
Banned
the funniest thing that i have learned during all of this is that colin says some garbage and then he ghosts and leaves his girlfriend and his fucking *mom* to defend him
You'd best run away, leave neogaf just so you don't catch cooties.
TWrecks310
Banned
I won't sit here and say that Colin is an "objectively bad person," but some of you guys should read some of the things he said on the last couple of pages. It's problematic and incredibly naive at best.
KZXcellent
Member
Does he leave it to them? Or do they do it of their own free will.
Hydranockz
Member
No we operate in pure binaries and if you're not objectively a good person then we insist you are evil.
THE BUBBLE ENGULFS ANOTHER SOUL
C'mon that's unnecessary.
Oh please, the only way to elevate our discourse is by using binary definitions. You know, like colon does.
There are two bubbles, see, SEE.
ScientificPizza
Banned
at the very least he doesn't stop them, so he must be okay with it
Trolling or not. Words and actions have consequences and Colin and KF are experiencing that right now. It was a shitty "joke" that wasn't funny and quite frankly Colin knows better.
It forced his partner to put out a PR statement. Others in the industry are calling him out for it and even other members of KF are ok with people railing against this whole thing.
If he GF wants to double down and defend him. That's her business. The one thing I haven't seen is Colin say anything or own up to it in any way. For all that Colin says he represents and stands for. He should be the last person to let anyone speak for him.
But his silence tells me all I need to know.
It forced his partner to put out a PR statement. Others in the industry are calling him out for it and even other members of KF are ok with people railing against this whole thing.
If he GF wants to double down and defend him. That's her business. The one thing I haven't seen is Colin say anything or own up to it in any way. For all that Colin says he represents and stands for. He should be the last person to let anyone speak for him.
But his silence tells me all I need to know.
Bolivar687
Banned
I mean, he said "quite the opposite." It's literally right there in his post:
The opposite of objective is subjective. Antonym if you prefer.
The trolling on twitter and the audience if attracts is what suggests it.
Bolivar687
Banned
So when he said people are arguing quite the opposite of him being "an objectively good person," what he really meant to say is that they're arguing he's a "subjectively good person?"
I thought you guys were being disingenuous and nonsensical before but wow.
Goldenroad
Member
Oh my god. I'm saying if something is "arguable", it's not definite, and by definition is not objective. What an argument. I'm sorry for all of this.
This show is actually really good aside from when Colin has go into stuff like I said in this thread on Tuesday, just to try to get back on topic. He's good otherwise. He's a good newsguy. He's got a good radio voice. He's kind of really horrible at twitter and his social views are messed up. There is more to a person than their worldview.
KZXcellent
Member
I'm not gonna think he's a bad person because the things he says make some scumbags happy.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
I don't know if he's a bad person and seeing as how none of you know him personally it's unlikely you know too.
What I do know is that the actions and words put forth by his public persona shows him to be an unempathetic person. His public persona also often shows support and praises people that many would consider bad people.
What I do know is that the actions and words put forth by his public persona shows him to be an unempathetic person. His public persona also often shows support and praises people that many would consider bad people.
meanspartan
Member
Yep. This.
KZXcellent
Member
I can wholeheartedly agree with this.
It would be great if we could leave her out of this. But she insists on being in it as a focus, and he's doing nothing to check that, even when she goes at his own crew. One could look at the timeline and see when the escalation began.
How about we drop the is Colin good or bad, light or dark childish garbage? Use some grown up language for christ sake.
Dude has been going through several breakdowns, and has been looking for a place to belong. Outside of the gaming BS that he took too seriously for his health.
We should be talking about how to not let others slip down that trail while we're here.
elshoelace
Member
Do it! Great show, really doesn't get more in-depth and informative.
SolidSnakex
Member
The odd thing is that Greg kept trying to give Colin an out by repeatedly pointing out that the story really didn't pick up any steam. Colin was getting angrier and angrier at a story that few felt had solid ground to stand on.
Hydranockz
Member
Your worldview shapes how you interact with every single other human being on this planet. If your public facing words speak volumes about how you view a demographic in a less than positive light, maybe that makes you kind of a shitbag. Personality driven communities could do with better than those who take shots at large swathes of people.
But if you can separate all that to listen to him, that's your prerogative, but have the decency to acknowledge its more work on your end.
But if you can separate all that to listen to him, that's your prerogative, but have the decency to acknowledge its more work on your end.
I'll never understand why people put so much time and energy into talking about / bashing Colin. You're perfectly entitled to your opinions of course. So how about just unfollow him or scroll past his comments if you dislike him so much.
If you don't like him, that's fine. Yet unlike others whose opinions and world views you may not like, people seem incapable of just moving on.
It's not rocket science is it? If you don't like someone's worldview, or how they speak to others, then just unfollow him and be done with it. Instead we have this thread analyzing every tweet or even liked teeet by other members of KF
If you don't like him, that's fine. Yet unlike others whose opinions and world views you may not like, people seem incapable of just moving on.
It's not rocket science is it? If you don't like someone's worldview, or how they speak to others, then just unfollow him and be done with it. Instead we have this thread analyzing every tweet or even liked teeet by other members of KF
elshoelace
Member
Yup, this did happen. He kept going where is the proof of him saying he is this or that and Greg pointed out Bannon allowed that shit a platform and it didn't seem to get through to him. Felt like he had to go through some mental gymnastics to miss something fairlh simple.
Unfortunately that's not how the world works. Problems get worse when you ignore them. Not that Colin the person is a problem, but his attitude and the worldview he is spreading certainly are.
karasu
Member
This forum is about discussion, man. We talk about shit here. it is the entire point.
But we're not talking about actual problems like curing cancer
The problem is just an Internet personality that some people don't like.
Hydranockz
Member
I appreciate you taking the time to read the posts you disagree with and to comment about how myself and others should just stop posting about it. I particularly appreciate you purposely ignoring your own advice to simply scroll on down. It isn't rocket science, thankfully, but it is worrying to see such a shitty reaction to criticism as displayed by Colin.
Maybe he is too busy catching up on Glenn Beck's previous shows before Monday to properly introspect on his actions.
TWrecks310
Banned
I would agree with this if people in genetal were smart enough to not do dumb things. But they will, and you have to point out what is bad and what is good, or you risk other people doing those same dumb things. I've seen the argument that you have to hear both sides and let the truth stand on its own, but in reality you have to nip bad shit in the bud as quickly as possible.
ScientificPizza
Banned
you're not on a cancer curing forum dawg
i imagine colin's ravenous horde of twitter followers is an actual problem for some people
Well if that's how you wanna spend your time then that's your prerogative. Just seems a better solution would be to ignore the guy you find some off putting. But you do you.
Hydranockz
Member
Thanks for honestly and truly caring about how I spend my time. Someone has to and hell it ain't gonna be me.
SolidChamp
Banned
Wow. Sounds like something pretty big happened here.
Can I get a summation of recent events?
Can I get a summation of recent events?
Colin made an unfunny but rather harmless joke about getting some "peace and quiet" on the day without women hashtag movement. Internet lost their minds at him for making the same kind of joke you might see any night on a prime time sitcom.
Elwood Blues
Member
People are entitled to their opinions as long as they keep those opinions to themselves. Got it.
pizzaparty
Member
What a cool and even handed take on the events.
this isn't the better solution. you don't ignore problems. that's how you get into messes.
TWrecks310
Banned
I hope you don't call out things you don't like, because I'm sure you follow your own advice pefectly.
SolidChamp
Banned
Ah, so Colin being his smug self. Got it.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
Is this the kind of forum where problems like curing cancer are often discussed?
Or is this a forum where gaming and people in the gaming industry are discussed?
KZXcellent
Member
Nevermind, people will just to make it look like I'm trying to downplay Colin's actions.
But probably not the night that is part of international women's day.
And then the sitcom would likely spend time making the person who made the joke look like the asshole in that situation.
Because they would be.
boredandlazy
Member
Whinging about how others spend their time seems even more frivolous as far as I'm concerned.
You're right. A much more civil and acceptable response would be days and days of debate over a joke tweet.
MRrogermoore
Member
Can someone fill me in on what was said?
Nvm, found nfo.
Nvm, found nfo.
This is a discussion forum. And that "joke" tweet apparently didn't go over well with members of his own crew and certainly didn't go well with people in the industry. It forced his partner to make a PR statement while Colin has been totally silent.