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PS3 helps Japanese Porn Industry choose Blu-Ray Disc

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PistolGrip

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The HD DVD high-definition movie format may have the lead in the U.S. porn industry, but Japanese adult film makers have turned decisively to Blu-ray Disc, breathing new life into its bid to replace DVDs as the disc of choice for home movies.

Sony Corp. has started offering more technical support to the adult film industry in Japan, movie makers said at the Adult Treasure Expo 2007 in Chiba, Japan, and the problem of finding companies to mass produce their movies appears to be over.

It's an important step for Blu-ray Disc. HD DVD has already won over the U.S. adult film industry through its lower costs and ease-of-use. People in the industry say they've received plenty of help from backers of the format, including Microsoft Corp. and Toshiba Corp. But Blu-ray is different. Sony and one of the biggest movie makers in the world, the Walt Disney Co., object to pornography, and Disney maintains a policy against having its own movies replicated by any company working with adult movie titles.

Until now, only a handful of companies operated the stampers needed to copy thousands of Blu-ray Disc movies at a time. But the Japanese company handling most of the early Blu-ray Disc adult film releases in Japan says it has partnered with a Taiwanese company able to secure the necessary equipment from Sony.

"In Japan, there are some problems. Companies cannot press Blu-ray discs because they cannot touch adult-related contracts," said Kiyotaka Konno, director of administration at Assist Corp., a Japanese company that authors and replicates DVDs for the adult industry in Japan. "So we asked some makers in Taiwan to do the work, and then we import the discs back to Japan. The Taiwanese company was able to obtain a pressing machine from Sony and will start mass production in August."

Sony says its policy of not allowing its disc replicating subsidiary, Sony DADC, to copy adult films has not changed. But the company is offering technical support to any film makers looking for help, no matter what industry, a spokeswoman said Monday.

The adoption of Blu-ray Disc by the Japanese porn industry could make all the difference in the format war. The adult film industry has long been a first mover in using new technologies, and many analysts say the industry played a key role in making VHS the winner in the video cassette fight against Sony's Betamax video tape standard years ago. Blu-ray Disc, also a Sony technology, is now vying with HD DVD to be the high-definition disc of choice in the 21st century.

Japan's adult film industry already has ten movies out on Blu-ray Disc (BD DVD), including "JK," "Sex Vacation in Guam" and "Eroist." More are on the way, said Yoshimasa Nozu, a producer at Total Media Agency Inc. His company plans to release at least one more movie per month on Blu-ray for the rest of this year.

By contrast, only one HD DVD adult film has been made in Japan so far, "Perfect Slave Rin," by Glay'z productions.

"HD DVD is popular overseas, but it faces a tough market in Japan," said Takeshi Kobayashi, head of operations at Taisei Co. Ltd., which distributes films under the trade name Glay'z in Japan. "Sony is really pushing the industry to adopt BD DVD."

Price is one issue. HD DVD movies sell for %6,090 (US$51.37) each in Japan, while BD DVD movies cost less, %4,935. The main difference is that every HD DVD comes with a DVD as well, so users who want to buy the new format but don't yet have an HD DVD player can watch the DVD until they buy a new player.

Sony's PlayStation 3 also presents a challenge for HD DVD. The game console comes with a built in BD DVD player, giving adult film producers an incentive to put their movies on Blu-ray. Japan has long been a stronghold for Sony in the game console arena, and despite stiff competition from Nintendo Co. Ltd.'s Wii, it has sold 4.3 million players worldwide. That puts at least the same number of Blu-ray Disc players in people's homes.

Microsoft, which is part of the HD DVD consortium, has tried to counter Blu-ray in game consoles by offering an add-on HD DVD player for the Xbox 360. But since the players aren't built in, users can opt to forego them, unlike PlayStation 3 users.

HD DVD does have an advantage in the cost of its stand-alone players. Toshiba Corp.'s HD-A2 costs just US$234.99 and comes with five free mainstream HD DVD movies, according to Amazon.com. A similar machine by Sony, the BDP-S300, costs US$499, the same as a PlayStation 3 with a 60G-byte hard drive. The two devices also include five free movies.

Several U.S. porn studios have also come out as strong supporters of HD DVD. Wicked Pictures released the first U.S. feature-length adult movie in HD DVD in January, "Camp Cuddly Pines: Powertool Massacre," while the first Blu-ray Disc title in the U.S., Vivid Entertainment Group's "Debbie Does Dallas...Again," didn't follow until nearly four months later.

Still, despite the head start, HD DVD isn't exactly taking the porn industry by storm. Several U.S. companies interviewed earlier this year have not made good on their plans to release titles in HD DVD, while Blu-ray Disc appears to be gaining ground with its new initiative to work with Japanese adult film makers. The result could be a shift in Blu-ray's favor. U.S. adult film makers said they would use whatever makes sense, and only favored HD DVD early on because the format is less expensive to make movies with and they received extensive help from HD DVD backers.

A friendlier face from the Blu-ray Disc camp appears to be working with Japan's porn industry. Perhaps it could work in the U.S. as well.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135222-c,dvdtechnology/article.html

Side comment: Why is bondage porn so big in japan???
 
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Hey guys, I just got one of those Rubick's cubes. Isn't the 80s great?

PS. Didn't they say on 1UPYours that the US porn industry was flocking towards HD-DVD? Not sure what the source was..
 
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Decado

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WTF? I thought Sony wasn't allowing porn on the Blu-Ray format, which was why it was all going to HD-DVD (in N. America or Europe...forget which).
 
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PistolGrip

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Visualante said:
Hey guys, I just got one of those Rubick's cubes. Isn't the 80s great?

PS. Didn't they say on 1UPYours that the US porn industry was flocking towards HD-DVD? Not sure what the source was..
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Well they are not exactly flocking. More like Sony wont make their disk themselves due to contracts and such with Disney and co. There are other manufactures that manufacture disk that will do porn however.

WickedLaharl said:
japanese porn SUCKS
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Shut you hole trap boy, japanese porn is art.

it takes too long to get to the good stuff. Jap Porn is all foreplay :( but you have to love the innocent petite actresses
 
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Raistlin

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Tideas said:
If Disney don't want to be assosciated with Porn, why is it putting out stuff in DVDS? o_O
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Disney has never stated people can't release porn on a given format. What they've done is as part of the contract to support a format, they've insisted that porn cannot use the same replicators as the Disney titles.

That is how the original 'no porn on BluRay' FUD started. Initially, there was only one BD replication plant, so porn couldn't be made. Other plants opened up a long time ago.


It was all just format war FUD by HD DVD-bots.

Decado said:
WTF? I thought Sony wasn't allowing porn on the Blu-Ray format, which was why it was all going to HD-DVD (in N. America or Europe...forget which).
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That was never true (see above). Sony simply wasn't letting porn until other replication plants opened in order to get Disney on board.
 
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Visualante

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PistolGrip said:
Well they are not exactly flocking. More like Sony wont make their disk themselves due to contracts and such with Disney and co. There are other manufactures that manufacture disk that will do porn however.
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Third parties can produce Blu Ray discs without Sony's consent?
 
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crazyscreenwriter

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Onix said:
Disney has never stated people can't release porn on a given platform. What they've done is as part of the contract to support a platform, they've insisted that porn cannot use the same replicators as the Disney titles.
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For good reason because there were a few instances of say "BACK DOOR SLUTS 9" making its way into the box for Toy Story 2 on DVD.
 
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Eggo

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crazyscreenwriter said:
Japanese porn is kind of boring to begin with.

And this should be in the OT section really.
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There already was a thread about this in OT that was locked because it's not such a big deal. Can easily be discussed in the blu-ray takeover thread.
 
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Decado said:
WTF? I thought Sony wasn't allowing porn on the Blu-Ray format, which was why it was all going to HD-DVD (in N. America or Europe...forget which).
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the article even explains what they mean by 'sony not allowing'...

sony won't press any disks, but they won't stop other disk manufacturers from doing so
 
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PistolGrip

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Onix said:
Disney has never stated people can't release porn on a given format. What they've done is as part of the contract to support a format, they've insisted that porn cannot use the same replicators as the Disney titles.

That is how the original 'no porn on BluRay' FUD started. Initially, there was only one BD replication plant, so port couldn't be made. Other plants opened up a long time ago.


It was all just format war FUD by HD DVD-bots.



That was never true (see above). Sony simply wasn't letting porn until other replication plants opened in order to get Disney on board.
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Yep, from the same people who brought you: "Blu-ray can't do VC1 encoding"
 
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Jon_Danger

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crazyscreenwriter said:
Japanese porn is kind of boring to begin with.

And this should be in the OT section really.
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my thread I made this morning about this in the OT section was promptly locked
 
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PistolGrip said:
Shut you hole trap boy, japanese porn is art.

it takes too long to get to the good stuff. Jap Porn is all foreplay :( but you have to love the innocent petite actresses
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I might not like your console bias, but PistolGrip, my man - we're on the same page on japanese porn. :lol
 
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Raistlin

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Visualante said:
Third parties can produce Blu Ray discs without Sony's consent?
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What he's saying is that Sony won't use their own replicators for it (which I'm not even sure if that's true). They definitely won't use the same replicators as Disney titles however ... that is part of the deal for Disney to support BD.


Sony is NOT the only owner of BD replicators. However, they are fully licensed.
 
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Raistlin

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crazyscreenwriter said:
For good reason because there were a few instances of say "BACK DOOR SLUTS 9" making its way into the box for Toy Story 2 on DVD.
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:lol

I hadn't even thought about that. That actually does happen occasionally (wrong title getting put in a package).


I always assumed it was more of a PR stunt then anything
 
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i honestly dont know how anyone can watch japanese porn. The girls look like 12 year old boys, and their voices are high pitched and scary.

HAI HAI HAI HAI HAI
 
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crazyscreenwriter

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Onix said:
:lol

I haven't even thought about that. That actually does happen occasionally (wrong title getting put in a package).


I always assumed it was more of a PR stunt then anything
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I don't think it was ever. I forget the instance but I remember a couple cases when I used to write about and for the adult film industry of wrong DVD put in the wrong packaging a couple times. Once I think it was a Disney movie; they are almost all family films 99% time when we heard about it.

I always thought it was a video store clerk playing a prank, but at least one disc had all the right labeling and all the very wrong Double Anal Content on the inside.
 
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Kiljaro

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PistolGrip said:
Thank you for your contribution. I'm sure you and the other 10 other posters who said the same thing must feel preety good about yourselves.
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Just sayin'. It does. A helluva a lot of it anyways.
 
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