• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

PS4 Launch Thread [Thread being archived 1/1/14]

ukas

Member
So NFS rivals isn't connecting to the EA servers (I just finished the unskippable tutorial). Is there a way to get around it, or is it just the servers getting hit? Forced online is stupid if there is literally no way to play if the network is down


Oh, and the update system is silly. It doesn't seem to check for an update until you launch the game. So you almost instantly have to quit out and relaunch,nso it installs the latest patch.


And I thought online passes were going away now that we need to have PS+ for online. Yet ACIV seems to want you to register the Uplay passport to play online - they call it an online pass and if you buy used you can buy the online pass from the store.

Would you rather not play and wait for the update to download and install or at least play right away and apply the update when it's convenient for you?
 

Kuro

Member
Is this supposed to matter to me? The result is the same, I downloaded 3 games and was playing them by now on my Xbox One. I haven't even *signed in* yet on my PS4.

This is, by default, the worst console launch I've ever experienced. Because I've never experienced not being able to use basic functionality of my console when I turn it on, lol.

I don't understand how you did not expect this to happen. Especially since it happened in the US 2 weeks ago and that isn't even Sony's strongest region. If you can't deal with a little PSN outage on launch day then just play your Xbone games in the meantime.
 

Qassim

Member
I don't understand how you did not expect this to happen. Especially since it happened in the US 2 weeks ago and that isn't even Sony's strongest region. If you can't deal with a little PSN outage on launch day then just play your Xbone games in the meantime.

Haha, I love this attitude. You should have expected Sony to be really shit! Why would you expect your console to work out of the box? DON'T BE RIDICULOUS!
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Would you rather not play and wait for the update to download and install or at least play right away and apply the update when it's convenient for you?

I'd rather it checks as soon as a game starts installing, downloads the patch and then installs when I first launch the game.

The games I've played so far all ping up a 'downloading update' as soon as I start up, and they've finished downloading and it is 'ready to install' before the game has finished loading. So I'm literally waiting for the game to get to the main menu, then quitting and relaunching it.


how do you check the progress of a disc based install? (i'm talking the full install not just to playable state)

I couldn't work it out. I ended up just waiting for the disc noise to stop.
 

Scuderia

Member
thats a little annoying tbh, the xbox one shows a percentage on how far it is so i know exactly when i can remove a disc and put a different one in

I didn't even know this was a thing until i was halfway through the first BF4 mission and it popped up saying it's now installed.
 

Kuro

Member
Haha, I love this attitude. You should have expected Sony to be really shit! Why would you expect your console to work out of the box? DON'T BE RIDICULOUS!

Now I'm confused, are you saying your console is DOA or are you complaining you can't download your digital games? Should have gone physical if you absolutely needed to play at launch. Did you really expect PSN to be running perfectly on a record-breaking launch day? It sucks that you can't play your games but I personally expected EU PSN to have problems at launch as did a lot of other people I'm sure.
 

jaaz

Member
Haha, I love this attitude. You should have expected Sony to be really shit! Why would you expect your console to work out of the box? DON'T BE RIDICULOUS!

He's right actually. Unless you have a bad console, it's not the console. The servers are getting hammered. It happened in the US but was much better the next day. If you can't be a little patient, go play your Xbone. You can't be bored of it already can you?
 

Alpende

Member
Haha, I love this attitude. You should have expected Sony to be really shit! Why would you expect your console to work out of the box? DON'T BE RIDICULOUS!

The console works fine, the servers are getting hammered. I don't find that strange though, almost all PS4 users of Europe are trying to log in at once.
 
Haha, I love this attitude. You should have expected Sony to be really shit! Why would you expect your console to work out of the box? DON'T BE RIDICULOUS!
I don't see what's wrong with the attitude though, it is something to be expected, online servers crumble when people rush to it on day one.

Your console still works out of the box.
 

Derrick01

Banned
Wait is PSN down in America too? I tried to use the store and it said I have to sign in, then when I tried to do that it said can't connect to the server. Now it's stuck on the blue background. I can't even tab out.
 

Majanew

Banned
So PSN is down? I can log into my profile but can't connect to PSN and when I try to play Resogun it shows this:

kAdOdA1.jpg


Locked all the demos from being played, too. Online DRM? WTF?
 

Bunta

Fujiwara Tofu Shop
Wait is PSN down in America too? I tried to use the store and it said I have to sign in, then when I tried to do that it said can't connect to the server. Now it's stuck on the blue background. I can't even tab out.

Yup, I tried getting on earlier and the same things happened to me. I was able to hit the PS button to get out, though. I tried to go back in and it told me it was under maintenance.
 

kinoki

Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
PSN... we barely got to know one another...
 

Qassim

Member
I don't see what's wrong with the attitude though, it is something to be expected, online servers crumble when people rush to it on day one.

Your console still works out of the box.

It works.. yeah. I can look around the menus, I can't download and play any of the games I pre-ordered though. A competing console did it just fine, I don't care how many people bought either of them, Sony should be ready to provide basic functionality.

I'm not surprised, but I shouldn't have to expect something I buy to not properly work when I buy it.
 

Dre3001

Member
Full installs for all games man. Limits the advantages of going physical to reselling and playing your games faster.

Im not too knowledgeable on how these games are compressed to fit on the disc but is it reasonable to assume that as the gen goes on the average install for each game will be significantly lower? Or will they pretty much always be in the 30+ range for the generation?


One thing I found interesting was that Madden 25 for Ps4 has an install of only 16 MB and not even a gigabyte. Considering sports games have to include commentary, all the teams, players, logos, etc I wonder why it is so low. For comparison NBA 2k14 is almost 40 GB.
 

BigJoeGrizzly

Neo Member
This does not provide me with confidence for the future of PSN on the PS4 (at least not initially). One of the things that pleased me about Sony finally charging for online multiplayer was the fact that they would take those funds to reinvest in their network infrastructure to make it more or as robust as Xbox Live. So far PSN has already been down multiple times, even with the staggered launch of in US and European territories. Why were they not prepared for Europe after seeing what happened in the US?
 

Derrick01

Banned
Yup, I tried getting on earlier and the same things happened to me. I was able to hit the PS button to get out, though. I tried to go back in and it told me it was under maintenance.

Urgh what a damn mess. You would think they would keep the territories on different servers or something. They must do it with Vita because I can use the store on that, although it's a bit sluggish right now and it wouldn't take my 1 year PS+ card. Hopefully it didn't "use" the code in the process.
 

Steel

Banned
It's funny, on U.S launch day I was able to use the ps store and download stuff fine. I am still able to use the PS store on my ps4 on European launch day. I guess I'm lucky? I don't think PSN is 100% down.
 

Zoator

Member
So PSN is down? I can log into my profile but can't connect to PSN and when I try to play Resogun it shows this:

kAdOdA1.jpg


Locked all the demos from being played, too. Online DRM? WTF?

Did you get Resogun for free from PS+? If so, then you should expect to have to connect to the internet in order to validate your PS+ subscription.
 
This does not provide me with confidence for the future of PSN on the PS4 (at least not initially). One of the things that pleased me about Sony finally charging for online multiplayer was the fact that they would take those funds to reinvest in their network infrastructure to make it more or as robust as Xbox Live. So far PSN has already been down multiple times, even with the staggered launch of in US and European territories. Why were they not prepared for Europe after seeing what happened in the US?
But even with having a subscription for years, and building up an infrastructure, XBL would also go down when many people were using the service.
 

Steel

Banned
anyone had a license was verified message show up while playing a dl game?

No, not for Killzone my DL game when offline.

Edit:

IMPORTANT SUGGESTION FOR DIGITAL ONLY EUROPEANS:

Do not put all the downloads you have available on the queue at once, it will download everything simultaneously and you can't pause them. DL one at a time.
 

Dunlop

Member
. There are also way more PS4s in the homes now between USA and Europe than there are XB1s. .

What a weird excuse for a network being down, even if true

Do MS and Sony have the exact same type and number of servers?
If there are more PS4's out there then surely Sony has more cash to beef up it's network resources?

They know how many units they have to sell in each region and what the network load will be as people try to sign up/download or whatever.

Just shitty preparation

Sorry for you poor start Europe
 

Majanew

Banned
anyone had a license was verified message show up while playing a dl game?

I have stupid license verified notifications come up all the damn time while I'm in the app it's verifying. Even if I've been it in for a while. Netflix, Crackle, a downloaded game. Very annoying. Guess I'm gonna have to turn all notifications off to make it go away.



Did you get Resogun for free from PS+? If so, then you should expect to have to connect to the internet in order to validate your PS+ subscription.

Ok, that makes sense. But what about the demos locking?
 

Dre3001

Member
Sony expected the Ps4 to be popular based on the reception it was getting leading up to the launch but I dont think they were prepared for this type of success.

1 million in 24 hours in NA 2 weeks ago and I guarantee they just sold another million across EU. Sony is playing catch up right now.
 

BigJoeGrizzly

Neo Member
But even with having a subscription for years, and building up an infrastructure, XBL would also go down when many people were using the service.

Can't speak for others, but in my experience with the console (6+ years) I've only had issues with the network during a period when they released new dashboard updates. Not to turn this into a console war thread, but from what I've been hearing there have been no such issues with Xbox Live during the X1 launch.
 

Dunlop

Member
Sony expected the Ps4 to be popular based on the reception it was getting leading up to the launch but I dont think they were prepared for this type of success.

1 million in 24 hours in NA 2 weeks ago and I guarantee they just sold another million across EU. Sony is playing catch up right now.

How can they not be prepared? It was pretty much guaranteed to sell out the initial shipments and they know exactly how many are out there. They had time to prepare the infrastructure for this load
 

kmg90

Member
So PSN is down? I can log into my profile but can't connect to PSN and when I try to play Resogun it shows this:

kAdOdA1.jpg


Locked all the demos from being played, too. Online DRM? WTF?

Is it your first time launching Resogun?

I believe the first time it's launched it verifies the license terms (PS+ etc)
 
Top Bottom