I don´t understand these treads, PC parts get cheaper every day so the longer into PS4 lifecycle the bigger the performance difference there will be compared to price. In a year from know you can probably buy a PC for 200 pounds with the same performance. One thing PS4 has going for it is optimizing, looking at PS3 Uncharted 1 too TLOU the difference is staggering.
PS4 performance on a ~£300 PC. Can it be done? (spoiler: yes)
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Sure. I think a bigger point to be made is that the people PC gaming are far less homogenous. There are people playing console ports, people playing PC centric ("exclusive"), people playing previous generations' titles, there are people modding, there are people playing a combination of any of these.
To frame it as people who only play flash / Indies and completely skipping out the massive amount and variety of games / content and then massive diversity in what users actually play, is either hilariously disingenuous or woefully unaware of what is happening on the platform
For sure. However, the PS3 is very different to the PS4. No PC could match a ps3 / 360 in terms of price and performance for a few years after launch, whereas now, this can be done out of the gate. It is also yet be seen if the PS4 can make such a leap over time as was seen with the previous systems.
Remember that the PS4 will also get price cuts
Cizeta-Moroder
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The point is that there is no point. I'd rather even say PC is the place to go if you want to abstain from system wars and not engage in it.
Yeah, I was a bit disappointed how they glossed over that point and didn't even mention Linux at all. I don't think it's a good idea to recommend the Windows 10 trial version as if it were a full license. And not everyone has a current, valid Windows 7/8 license.
Depending on what games someone wants to play, I think Linux can be a valid option, you just have to be aware of the limitations. It's getting a lot better, but no Uplay or Origin for example.
Captain Tuttle
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I never used the word indies, I said exclusives.
Also there is nothing subjective about this topic, the article is saying that you can build a PC that performs like a PS4 for a certain price
Also true. A mass produced console is always going to be a great cost effective gaming solution.
OmegaDL50
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No, but will your PS4 play Divinity: Original Sin, Pillars of Torrment, Cities Skylines, or Civilization V.
Can you run Mario Kart 8, Super Mario 3D World, or Xenoblade X on an XB1? No
What about running Forza Motorsport 5 or Killer Instinct on an Wii U.
I hope I have thoroughly demonstrated why using exclusive lists to defend a specific hardware platform is ultimately pointless and a waste of time. Every fucking platform has it's exclusives.
However the real important thing to question is are you in this hobby because of that company name attached to your console or because of the game library that provides you entertainment?
Anyways, yes it IS possible to build a $300 PC that will offer performance as a PS4. However over the life of the console which will have subsequently more and more demanding games releasing over top. The $300 PC running early multiplatform ports, yes I can see this. However that same $300 PC running late-into-console life multiplatform ports is entirely up in the air.
It's one thing doesn't seem to change is the slow and incremental increases of the minimum requirements on PC versions of multiplatform titles. It doesn't help that by the time we reach the end of the PS4's life the games it has that are released on PC the minimum requirements listed oddly exceed that of what the PS4 should be capable of.
But running the games isn't impossible. One is always able to lower the settings, or use a smaller resolution, or use vsync, It's not ideal, but for those who scrape the bottom of the barrel in building the least expensive PC that is able enough to run games, then it that what going to be done. At this point you are sacrificing visual fidelity for the sake of playing the game at a reasonable speed.
Nothing wrong with that, I personally just don't see this as ideal, but that is great thing about choices, is that there is always an option available.
BruceLeeRoy
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I think the PC crowd has more than its fair share of zealots when it comes to console wars
SnowFlakeCake
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So many good things about PC gaming yet backwards as fuck when it comes to renting games, as in it can't be done. The day that changes I'll build an awesome PC and enjoy myself, I don't mind the upfront costs of even £600+ to build a nice system but can't justify buying games that won't last more than a couple weeks which for my limited attention span is most titles.
My goal is to buy a cheap PC in like 2/3 years to play PC-only games at good quality settings or to just enjoy the Steam environment on a non-laptop (like I do now). When that times comes a 400 euro PC should offer plenty of power.
The only problem I have with PCs is understanding how upgrades work in terms of compatibility with the motherboard and all of that. I really wish that part was more simple.
The only problem I have with PCs is understanding how upgrades work in terms of compatibility with the motherboard and all of that. I really wish that part was more simple.
Garrett Hawke
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Interesting. I am considering building myself a relatively cheap PC for uni work and also old PC games as I mostly play on consoles. This could be useful 
Sweet, thanks!
That's not what he said though.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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Also, if you just plug it in via USB or BT without any other software, it acts as a dinput controller. Some games like Dying Light, Far Cry 4, and GTA V support it completely natively right down to the button prompts
You said that PC had more exclusives, whether they're worth purchasing a PC for is subjective.
funkystudent
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It would be doable with some games sure. But not most of them.
I have a 8 year old piece of shit dell with a core 2 quad that I slapped a 750ti into and it out performed my PS4 on a handful of Remasters but if I toss a next gen game at it, it crumbles.
I have a 8 year old piece of shit dell with a core 2 quad that I slapped a 750ti into and it out performed my PS4 on a handful of Remasters but if I toss a next gen game at it, it crumbles.
texhnolyze
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blastprocessor
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Get both?
Got the PS4 and X51 with i7, 16gb and 660GTX to be upgraded when 14/16nm GPU come into play.
PS4 is mostly for platform exclusives and playing BluRay on the TV.
Prophet Steve
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No, can be lots of points.
You can upgrade later on, you can use a PC for many other purposes, you might actually prefer the exclusives on the PC.
BruceLeeRoy
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People choose IFC over HBO everyday
ShadowkillXNA
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You dont need ps+ for system updates or game updates. Pretty sure you don't need Live gold for the same things on xbox one either.
wanderjahr
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People still make these kinds of threads?
Makes sense. The baseline for games right now is the consoles after all, and they are budget units to start. As time goes on the cost of the HW to run these kinds of games gets less and less along with the evolution of technology.
I think the best news about this is that PC owners finally have ports that can net them good performance a lot of the time with minimal cost, instead of dealing with shitty ports that take higher end systems just to run decently even though the HW is much greater than what should ever be required
I think the best news about this is that PC owners finally have ports that can net them good performance a lot of the time with minimal cost, instead of dealing with shitty ports that take higher end systems just to run decently even though the HW is much greater than what should ever be required
Atraveller
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On neogaf? No.
Top. All day, every day
I hope this is sarcasm. Hard to tell sometimes.
Atraveller
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It's not.
GribbleGrunger
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How do you play PS4 exclusives on a cheap PC? I find these articles insane.
GreatestHits
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Apparently this thread is for rich people.
Bring on the PC only games, I'f I'm buying 1 thing it's going to a be a PC.
Bring on the PC only games, I'f I'm buying 1 thing it's going to a be a PC.
Eh, 750ti is more on par with xbone but the i3 is a far superior processor than the apu design of the ps4 so I can see how you could edge out performance on certain multiplatform games. I buy most multiplatform games on pc because of price and performance. I still prefer the console gaming experience though. Gaming at 2k is pretty nice though, I just wish the Steam big screen mode would evolve a bit more
PolarGamer
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God dammit. I yield. I remember him saying it last year when we were playing Destiny, and my guy said it looked as good as anything on his PC, minus the framerate, I guess. He was pretty impressed with Bloodborne as well.
Atraveller
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How do people kept missing the point?
texhnolyze
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People reading the title as : "Running PS4 games on a ~£300 PC. Can it be done?"
OmegaDL50
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Well that simply means they can't properly read, no?
Doesn't help that most of these replies are from people that probably haven't even read the very first post or the article it links to.
nvidia flops != amd flops you will find they are much more efficient gpu's overall the 750ti is roughly on part wiht the ps4's gpu.
Netrunner2k2
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I think you know why.
I don't know of any game where the Xbox 1 performs comparably to the 750ti. The 750ti normally performs comparably to the PS4, if not slightly better.
Are people focusing on this like someone's trying to sell them a PC? But muh bloodbornez!
If nothing else, this serves to show you a reference point for the level of hardware you're getting. You wouldn't necessarily build a rig like this but I see posts on GAF all the time from people with PC's who are worried about their rigs being outdated, not being able to max out a new release, saying they think they should get the PS4 version instead, etc. All this when usually they've got hardware leagues above the one in the article. lol
Merely educational.
I've found that full reading comprehension before getting all defensive and shit-posting is optional on GAF.
If nothing else, this serves to show you a reference point for the level of hardware you're getting. You wouldn't necessarily build a rig like this but I see posts on GAF all the time from people with PC's who are worried about their rigs being outdated, not being able to max out a new release, saying they think they should get the PS4 version instead, etc. All this when usually they've got hardware leagues above the one in the article. lol
Merely educational.
I've found that full reading comprehension before getting all defensive and shit-posting is optional on GAF.
GribbleGrunger
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Why would I want to play PC exclusives on my PS4? This is an article about making a PC as powerful as a PS4 on the cheap. It's pointless and stupid. I bought a PS4 to play PS4 exclusives, the power is just a bonus.
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