Yeah, the rest of the year is going to be really interesting.
PS4K information (~2x GPU power w/ clock+, new CPU, price, tent. Q1 2017)
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Yeah, the rest of the year is going to be really interesting.
Flying Toaster
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PS5 maybe...
PS4 Slim coming in May?
That's upscaling, which you were adamant about it not being.
How is it up scaling when all the pixels are being rendered?
not a fanboy comment at all. smh
That means you are injecting non-rendered data into those pixels, which is upscaling.
Since when was texture mapping upscaling?
BeforeU
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rokkerkory
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2nd GPU? Is this thing gonna be $599?
...Scatter...
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I can't wait till these damn consoles get revealed because folks are all over the place with their hopes and wishes. It's making my head hurt every time I come in looking for some actual information to see if we have any details revealed.
I just hope the new consoles bring the damn power.
I just hope the new consoles bring the damn power.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Did DF release more info?
Stop playing dumb and pushing your argument to the most illogical extreme.
The moment you take something out of the rendering pipeline that is calculated with a 3D matrix transformation and try to fill in those blanks with a 2D algorithm you are upscaling (or performing post processing on) the image.
That is what separates 2D and 3D.
That is what separates DPUs and GPUs.
That is what separates post processing and native rendering.
AND you still OBVIOUSLY can't wrap your head around the concept.
Are you really that thick skulled or just unwilling to admit you're wrong?
Again when did texture mapping become upscaling?
GhostTrick
Banned
It's crazy to think things work as easily as it is. There's a reason why anyone on PC would tell you to avoid multi GPU despite years of drivers.
It's not as good as one GPU.
What's this DF thread, friends?
How can we be still debating about upscaling?
Lets end this once for all, come on.
To achive the goal of getting the color of every pixel on the screen, we have two methods/sources:
-Rendering / Game code:
For a given resolution, the color of each píxel will be calculated from analyzing all the objects of the current scene of the game and applying the different illumination systems and filters (like AA or anisotropic).
The native resolutions is formed by all the pixels which color have been calculated by analyzing data of the game.
-Up/Downscaling:
The colors of the pixels comes from applying algorythms on the pixel/color data we already got in the rendering process.
End. Is just as simple as this.
Lets end this once for all, come on.
To achive the goal of getting the color of every pixel on the screen, we have two methods/sources:
-Rendering / Game code:
For a given resolution, the color of each píxel will be calculated from analyzing all the objects of the current scene of the game and applying the different illumination systems and filters (like AA or anisotropic).
The native resolutions is formed by all the pixels which color have been calculated by analyzing data of the game.
-Up/Downscaling:
The colors of the pixels comes from applying algorythms on the pixel/color data we already got in the rendering process.
End. Is just as simple as this.
travisbickle
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Between the lines, man. Reading between the lines.
sono
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Kralamoonard
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Oh ligten up!! Out of all the comments you decided to pick on that page it was that one. It's not like you were looking for a reason to hold against him lol.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Saw that one already, all the same info was already here aside from them knowing it exists and not knowing anyone with one.
THE:MILKMAN
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Aztechnology
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To clarify as of right now it's not coming to Playstation 4 as it didn't reach that funding goal. However there's a really good chance it will. So it would be nice for those with PSVR to have a machine capable of getting that kind of performance.
Here's some footage from the pre-alpha status ~8 months ago.
https://youtu.be/8-mpm_47k6Q
It might be able to. To be honest I would think games dealing with space should be fairly easy vs games on a planet since you need much higher res details and such
Lmao
I agree.
Malcolm9
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Only just bought a PS4.
(And I have a 4K TV, too. Sadface.)
I wouldn't worry, you won't be missing out on much if it's just a slim type PS4 revision with the ability to play 4k media, which is still very limited.
My man with the Soap reference. ^5
Aztechnology
Member
Oh no they could definitely get it to 60 fps on PS4 but it wouldn't look anything like those gifs. That's the problem .
By that logic GT 6xscreens was upscaling too - the rendering-methods are nearly identical. I mean, this comes down to question of how much we want to abuse the terminology. Upscaling is typically used to describe output-resolution conversion, which is not exactly what happens here.Metfanant said:
It's relatively easy to modify most-AA resolves to work as upscalers though (quality of course, will vary drastically).Liabe Brave said:
Not in any real sense. The offset-samples are generated via rendering the frame multiple-times. Reprojection takes old/existing samples and projects them to new time/location (which would be more closely related to upscaling really).
Greg Twoface said it has 2 GPUs. He should worry.
Maybe. It would depend on how they go about it. Most people are making it sound impossible for graphics like that even at 30... Yet Uncharted
No sense. I mean, when your competitor release a new hardware, even more powerful, is not necessarily a sure winner or a menace. Think a new model just for this, it's almost amateurish.
It would, given half the gifs come from cutscenes which have generally
been prerendered on ND games.
jeff_rigby
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In 2013 a Microsoft VP said the XB1 hardware can support UHD Blu-ray (with firmware update) which is confirmed by HEVC profile 10 being released for the XB1. A Sony rep said the PS4 has a HDMI 2 port which is confirmed with the latest Playstation VR goggle lecture (supports two separate video streams and 120 FPS). Also at launch the; "PS4 supports 4K media".Only just bought a PS4.
(And I have a 4K TV, too. Sadface.)
Between all these statements in 2013, both the XB1 and PS4 launch consoles should support all 4K media.
Oh; by the way, The Digital Foundry video says the launch PS4 can't support 4K nor can they see any way a PS4.5 or 4K has a 2X GPU. So who do you believe? Do the research for yourself. If you dismiss DFs statements about the PS4 UHD support then the only conclusion is that everyone is confusing a firmware update coming in October with a new PS4K because everyone assumes the Launch PS4 can't support 4k media.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1086342
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=916219
The PS3 except for drive and HDMI port can support 4K media. The HDMI port can be bypassed with HDMI 2's multi-view which treats the LAN port as a HDMI port with software (PS4 can do this also as can the XB1 as it's a HDMI 2 standard). A standard 8X speed blu-ray drive just needs a firmware update to support Version 2 disks which is in the Fuji book (XB1 and PS4 can do this). PS3 early drives are 4X with 2X required for HD blu-ray.
How does this make texture mapping = upscaling?
Indeed, some ps3 games even output the 2xMSAA buffer pretty much directly to the screen. (IE.Harry Potter)
I have no idea if this means MS is also working on a new console but lol. I had to laugh at that part.
So the PS4K secret sauce is up-texture-mapping now?
How did you get that from my post?
duck_sauce
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We do not get anything from your posts, because you never explain your stance on the matter. At all.
Its literary a slide show...and a nonsensical at that.
PeterLegend
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It would be hilarious if ps4k didnt exist and we had all these pages for no reason