PS5 cloud streaming launches this month for PlayStation Plus Premium members

Very cool. If MS isn't careful, sony is gonna take away xbox's cloud niche.

But Sony's using Azure for streaming PS5 games, so I guess it's a win win for both parties.
 
Raonak said:
Very cool. If MS isn't careful, sony is gonna take away xbox's cloud niche.

But Sony's using Azure for streaming PS5 games, so I guess it's a win win for both parties.
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Not right now at least. You can boot up xCloud on your mobile, tablet, TV, PC or Xbox. At this time Sony only has it available on PS5, which doesn't quite make much sense to me because if you can stream a game, you can download said game just as easily.
 
Eotheod said:
Not right now at least. You can boot up xCloud on your mobile, tablet, TV, PC or Xbox. At this time Sony only has it available on PS5, which doesn't quite make much sense to me because if you can stream a game, you can download said game just as easily.
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It's only PS5 for now, but there's nothing really stopping them from expanding it to other platforms if they want.
They currently don't see a reason to for business reasons, or are just doing a slow rollout.

Once they do, then xbox loses it's one advantage.
PS is such a more dominant gaming brand that it'll be a serious threat to anybody wanting to seriously enter the cloud gaming market.
 
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Raonak said:
It's only PS5 for now, but there's nothing really stopping them from expanding it to other platforms if they want.

Once they do, then xbox loses it's one advantage. PS is such a more dominant gaming brand that it'll be a serious threat to anybody wanting to seriously enter the cloud gaming market.
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Agreed. And Sony tried to argue Microsoft's dominance on cloud, as a tactic to stop the Activation acquisition, lol.
 
Gonna try it out when it launched to see how the latency and image quality holds up. It can definitely be useful for trying out games before commiting storage space. Makes the time commitment smaller as well, I have pretty fast internet but it can still take a while to download an average sized game.
 
FoxMcChief said:
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So are taxes and death, what's your point?
 
Eotheod said:
Not right now at least. You can boot up xCloud on your mobile, tablet, TV, PC or Xbox. At this time Sony only has it available on PS5, which doesn't quite make much sense to me because if you can stream a game, you can download said game just as easily.
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Good for trying out games before you download them.
 
analog_future said:
Very cool. More options are never a bad thing.

EDIT - And you can stream your own library? Something Microsoft has been talking about enabling on the Xbox side for literally years but still hasn't arrived with xCloud?

EDIT 2 - And 4k/60fps??? Again, something xCloud is incapable of?


What in the fuck is MS doing over there?
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Not locking cloud streaming to their console?
 
I wonder if they will keep the PS4 server blades for some time? Ape Escape 2 won't work otherwise.
 
I'm a little confused as to how 4k streaming is coming to PS cloud before Xcloud, considering how much more focus Xbox has put on cloud streaming as a concept.

Sometimes I get they feeling they internally go back and forth on a monthly basis in terms of what their real focus should be (console, cloud or PC).
 
Schmick said:
I recently subscribed to Geforce Now Ultimate. Its a fantastic service, it now means that i can play Cyberpunk 2077 on max settings.
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What do you stream it to ?

I'd be curious to try this. Stadia sucked IMO. Curious if this is any better.
 
Arsic said:
What do you stream it to ?

I'd be curious to try this. Stadia sucked IMO. Curious if this is any better.
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You can use it for free on PC (in 30 min sessions or something), at least it used to be. Dunno if you get access to the same GPU grunt though.

Very impressive latency IMO, probably even better now than when I used it
 
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PS5 cloud streaming is exclusively available on the PS5 console at launch.
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That's got to be temporary. Otherwise I don't see why players are choosing to play the game in a worse state than they could on the hardware they own (if it's PS5 games on a PS4 that's a bit different). The draw here is that you can play games when you don't have a console, I can't see Sony not going that way with it.

If they do, it might be a good way to play some PS exclusives buy picking up a month of PS+ Premium every now and again.
 
skit_data said:
You can use it for free on PC (in 30 min sessions or something), at least it used to be. Dunno if you get access to the same GPU grunt though.

Very impressive latency IMO, probably even better now than when I used it
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Hypothetical. Alan wake 2 comes out and I want to play it max everything streamed to my wired pc with great internet. Would it look better than on a 3080? The issue with stadia I had is it made all games look blurry AF.
 
Arsic said:
Hypothetical. Alan wake 2 comes out and I want to play it max everything streamed to my wired pc with great internet. Would it look better than on a 3080? The issue with stadia I had is it made all games look blurry AF.
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Ouff, I really can't tell because I only used the free version but I was very impressed with the latency even on that one. The poster you originally quoted probably knows for sure
 
DaGwaphics said:
That's got to be temporary. Otherwise I don't see why players are choosing to play the game in a worse state than they could on the hardware they own (if it's PS5 games on a PS4 that's a bit different). The draw here is that you can play games when you don't have a console, I can't see Sony not going that way with it.

If they do, it might be a good way to play some PS exclusives buy picking up a month of PS+ Premium every now and again.
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They offered streaming on everything in the past, android, iOS, TVs, Playstation 4, Vita but this changed as they pushed the successful PS4.
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Hypothetical. Alan wake 2 comes out and I want to play it max everything streamed to my wired pc with great internet. Would it look better than on a 3080? The issue with stadia I had is it made all games look blurry AF.
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Depends on the membership tier you choose. If you choose priority membership it wouldn't look better than your 3080 because that tier gives you 3060 or 2080 equivalent servers. If you go Ultimate tier it will be a 4080 rig that will perform better than a 3080. Whether it will be blurry or low res depends on factors like your bandwidth but it will try to aim for up to 4k.
 
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FoxMcChief said:
Agreed. And Sony tried to argue Microsoft's dominance on cloud, as a tactic to stop the Activation acquisition, lol.
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They were right to say so at that moment in time. And of course they wouldn't reveal their own plans there and on that time. But yes, I think Sony has a much bigger chance to succeed than the opposition if they'd really make work of it.
 
skit_data said:
I'm a little confused as to how 4k streaming is coming to PS cloud before Xcloud, considering how much more focus Xbox has put on cloud streaming as a concept.

Sometimes I get they feeling they internally go back and forth on a monthly basis in terms of what their real focus should be (console, cloud or PC).
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Maybe because as market-leader, Sony just does their thing silently, while MS has to PR their way back to being somewhat relevant.

So now this comes as a but of a surprise, while anyone with a bit of a brain could see this coming.
And Sony can certainly be a serious threat to Xbox in this area of gaming as well.
 
"Your own digital library" is kinda huge. That means they would need to have every single game readily installed (or install it practically on the fly when someone chose one niche game which might actually be easier since speed is there but gigantic space with the same required speed isn't) and not just a selection of their own.
But I wonder how 4k 60 is suppsoed to work. The current remote play app from PS5 to my PC does not come close to that. It has imho more lag, with a rather short in house connection, than PS3 server streams which seem to have less lag than PS4 server streams for some reason and is certainly a massive downgrade in fidelity. If it theoretically is even FHD, it is compressed af and a PS4 (even Pro) game looks suddenly a lot closer to PS3 level and not even at least native PS4 in amateur resolution anymore.
But if it is PS5 streams on a PS5, it is as pointless as PS4 streams on a PS4 are. Why would I do that? Streams are for alternative devices and allowing lower platforms to play the next gen, and maybe cutting install times for some short tests, but not for actually playing a full game.

Georges Chiellins said:
Does that mean I can play from my bedroom, while PS5 is on the other side of the house?
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You can already do that. The remote play app for PC exists, supporting your PS4 and PS5. I think also for phones. At least for PS4.
 
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crackajack said:
"Your own digital library" is kinda huge. That means they would need to have every single game readily installed (or install it practically on the fly when someone chose one niche game which might actually be easier since speed is there but gigantic space with the same required speed isn't) and not just a selection of their own.
But I wonder how 4k 60 is suppsoed to work. The current remote play app from PS5 to my PC does not come close to that. It has imho more lag, with a rather short in house connection, than PS3 server streams which seem to have less lag than PS4 server streams for some reason and is certainly a massive downgrade in fidelity. If it theoretically is even FHD, it is compressed af and a PS4 (even Pro) game looks suddenly a lot closer to PS3 level and not even at least native PS4 in amateur resolution anymore.
But if it is PS5 streams on a PS5, it is as pointless as PS4 streams on a PS4 are. Why would I do that? Streams are for alternative devices and allowing lower platforms to play the next gen, and maybe cutting install times for some short tests, but not for actually playing a full game.


You can already do that. The remote play app for PC exists, supporting your PS4 and PS5. I think also for phones. At least for PS4.
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Something to investigate then, thanks.
 
Raonak said:
It's only PS5 for now, but there's nothing really stopping them from expanding it to other platforms if they want.
They currently don't see a reason to for business reasons, or are just doing a slow rollout.

Once they do, then xbox loses it's one advantage.
PS is such a more dominant gaming brand that it'll be a serious threat to anybody wanting to seriously enter the cloud gaming market.
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Ehhhh, even Microsoft puts a lot on cloud and it is t really as big as many think right now. Majority of people either don't car work simply can not functionally access the system. Hell, here in Australia we absolutely can not competently use cloud streaming despite having a national broadband network that delivers above 300mbps.

The infrastructure for these systems is there on the manufacturer's side, but not the consumer. That's the missing link and Sony being a bigger brand doesn't mean crap if the consumer can't use it.
 
Tried streaming Demon's Souls just to try it out (100/100 mbit/s).
Works OK I guess, IQ seems fine but there is without doubt some input latency. Will probably work for titles not relying too heavily on low input lag.
 
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Georges Chiellins said:
Does that mean I can play from my bedroom, while PS5 is on the other side of the house?
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Lol you can do that on PS consoles for more then 2 decades already, and even outside of your house (everywhere in the world).

Also tried 4K/60 fps streaming and it is pretty amazing what they've delivered so far. Some input latency but overall it's pretty stable. I did the test over Wifi as a real test and not over Ethernet. If they rollout this faster on other devices like phones, tv apps etc then they might already ahead of XCloud imo. They already are ahead of XCloud when it comes to fps and image quality.
 
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