Ps5 confirmed raytracing

thelastword said:
Go back and read the forums and threads before PS4's launch...….Where do you think "we will never concede 30% came from", "unlimited power of the cloud via azure, just unlimited power, even PC's were in trouble"...….It's all there, don't try to pretend that everybody thought that XBONE would be weaker...…..Go back and read...…..

The hyperbole on anything MS is just a means to a fall.….just like when DF said XBONEX was like a "GTX 1070", which could not be further from the truth......I bet you Leadbetter believes that XBONE will be 12TF since he's already in the 8-9TF camp for PS5...…..It's the same way in a preview of XBONE DF said most of the launch games were running at 1080p 60fps and we all know how that turned out in 2013...…..They have no problem pushing the MS fairydust and "having doubts" on any semblance of PS5 being more powerful or having RT hardware etc.....Things are going to get very interesting the next few months...…
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Triggered and deflecting 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
 
Shangounchained said:
I aint worked up bro its just the guys resillience to fighting me is kiddish n im having loads of fun at my place
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Yeah, you may be having fun, but the rest of us are just shaking our heads.

And for fucks sake, if you're not 13 years old, don't type like one, it's very much annoying.
 
Shangounchained said:
the footage is on youtube the link i posted was the easiest i could pick online about it being ps6 is the websites author its not my writting, go google it n stop fighting about bitchy kiddish things. Even gt sport posted it on there website and deleted it





Raytracing in 7 minutes
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First video is a showcase of a TV. Nowhere they say anything about a PS5 as far as i watched. And nowhere they mention it's real time graphics or pre-rendered or any other info.

Second video is long but i went to 7:00 where you say it's about Ray Tracing. Ok but that footage shown on that screen stutters like shit, it's not even steady 30fps, let alone 120 (which you couldn't see anyway from a 60fps video).

Do you have some actual evidence or not?
 
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CameFromNearFuture said:
Just a desire/sexual fantasy of a deluded Xbox fanatic running accounts on Twitter having that komachi "reveal" as a base for his ridiculous conspiracy Theory that is Just heavily anti Sony
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MysterX Media has had time to breed! The following gen will have more.

PS6 will raytrace user input, but still no reflections, and no raytraced shadows either.
 
Not only has Sony shown a launch game with RT in Godfall, they've showed Poliphony Digital working on RT tech on GTS almost a year ago at 8k resolution......People choose to believe what suits them even in the face of evidence....

Cerny said PS5 has RT hardware, who's Cerny anyway, let's believe leakers, Penello et al.....They know more about PS5 than that loon....
 
alabtrosMyster said:
That was only audio raytracing you idiot! 😂
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Before calling someone idiot learn that he did a follow up interview few months back and said "to clarify the raytracing comment , yes ps5 has hardware assisted ray tracing " .

i m waiting for an apology . It's ok if you would have asked first but not knowing something and calling someone idiot is childish.
 
alabtrosMyster said:
See, even you are saying it, this is only assisted I.E. not accelerated!

PS5 will assist only audio raytracing! Confirmed by Phil himself.
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Lamo You are an idiot bro . A simple google search would have taken you to the October 2019, 2nd interview where he said the exact same thing as phil in the e3 2019 Scarlett clip . But that's ok it's too much to expect an idiot like you to know stuff outside his Xbox bubble . Thanks . Bye
 
nkarafo said:
First video is a showcase of a TV. Nowhere they say anything about a PS5 as far as i watched. And nowhere they mention it's real time graphics or pre-rendered or any other info.

Second video is long but i went to 7:00 where you say it's about Ray Tracing. Ok but that footage shown on that screen stutters like shit, it's not even steady 30fps, let alone 120 (which you couldn't see anyway from a 60fps video).

Do you have some actual evidence or not?
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Go google it ive shown u enough examples
 
nowhat said:
This is coming from someone who's not worked up. Brace yourselves - one time he will be, and the shitposting will be on a whole new level.
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OP is acting very childish and believes every random rumor no matter how dumb on Twitter with no proof to back anything up.
Very low grade and effort opinions and when we call him out on it spreads more crap around to deflect his previous low grade opinion.
Ive seen his kind before he won't last.
 
nowhat said:
Yeah, you may be having fun, but the rest of us are just shaking our heads.

And for fucks sake, if you're not 13 years old, don't type like one, it's very much annoying.
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Mhhh how ironic look whos worked up, i type how i want thats none of ur business, if u type like a 90 year old fine keep it to ureself buddy nobody cares.
 
DESTROYA said:
OP is acting very childish and believes every random rumor no matter how dumb on Twitter with no proof to back anything up.
Very low grade and effort opinions and when we call him out on it spreads more crap around to deflect his previous low grade opinion.
Ive seen his kind before he won't last.
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I havent posted any rumours its u n ur thick head thats ploting nonesense against me simply because ur weak arguments failed
 
thelastword said:
Not only has Sony shown a launch game with RT in Godfall, they've showed Poliphony Digital working on RT tech on GTS almost a year ago at 8k resolution......People choose to believe what suits them even in the face of evidence....

Cerny said PS5 has RT hardware, who's Cerny anyway, let's believe leakers, Penello et al.....They know more about PS5 than that loon....
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Bro im fighting idiots in this thread calling me a troll and a list for posting gt sport running st 8k 120, fps and podting cerny remarks. Its astonishing how stupid people can get theres a big mob crucifying me here for simply posting what sony and ms showed.
 
Shangounchained said:
I havent posted any rumours its u n ur thick head thats ploting nonesense against me simply because ur weak arguments failed
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Can you point out what weak arguments failed? As far as I'm concerned they were just different from your opinions which are just that opinions not fact. Your in denial OP start acting like a man and put more effort into your thoughts instead of posting like a screaming spoiled child.
 
Even though HDMI 2.1 does not support 8k 120fps, Display Port 2.0 does, and it also supports 16k 60fps......I'm sure PS5 will have a Display Port as well...
 
thelastword said:
Even though HDMI 2.1 does not support 8k 120fps, Display Port 2.0 does, and it also supports 16k 60fps......I'm sure PS5 will have a Display Port as well...
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it will of course have 2 DP ports and 1 HDMi so you can connect up to 3 monitors.
I mean... that's pretty obvious right?
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CatLady said:
Members are plotting against you now? Seriously step away from your computer and go chill out. You're losing it.
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Members are human beings and human beings plot things, it aint the first time its happened, happens every time when people lose arguments they turn to cheap tacticts.
 
it_wasn't_me said:
Yeah. I smell double standards here. We all know what happened before E3, and immediatelly after Reiner's tweet.

Only believe and take their words as gospel : Tom Warren,rogame,Komachi,DF own sources,Windows Central,Arthur Gies,Dylan522p,RedTechGaming etc..
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There is a stark difference. Komachi and rogame are just revealing actual documents. They are not based on hearsay or rumors. And i'll gladly take DFs own sources,Tom Warren,Windows Centrals word over the couple on the other side,as i find them more credible. And the meltdown and the predictable "power doesn't matter" damage control will be glorious!
 
eastwood333 said:
There is a stark difference. Komachi and rogame are just revealing actual documents. They are not based on hearsay or rumors. And i'll gladly take DFs own sources,Tom Warren,Windows Centrals word over the couple on the other side,as i find them more credible. And the meltdown and the predictable "power doesn't matter" damage control will be glorious!
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Actual documents which provided tests are 7+ months OLD, especially in PS5s case, WITH NO RAY TRACING in it! But guess what, PS5 has hardware accelerated RT. :D
Did you know that DF assuming is 12TF RDNA? No? Now you know. They didn't confirmed it.
 
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Shangounchained said:
U dont have to use hdmi for hd or 4k the 360 didnt have hdmi at first it had its own cables to output hd, hdmi is just a standard
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I am confused... what does that have to do with the topic on hand?

also, HDMi was necessary to output 1080p, component only supported up to 1080i

and HDMi 2.1 literally can't output 8k120, which was my original objection with what you said
 
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Shangounchained said:
Members are human beings and human beings plot things, it aint the first time its happened, happens every time when people lose arguments they turn to cheap tacticts.
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Who won what? Lol

Its opinion vs opinion based off rumors thats people choose to believe when they benefit their console of choice.

"Purple crayon is my favorite der der der"
 
Shangounchained said:
Theres a whole mob coming after me i dont know whats itching them, theyr constantly attacking me. Some how
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Unless you are in resetera which works like a hivemind, if there's a majority who says you are wrong and you are the only one who thinks you are right then you most likely are wrong. And if you are indeed right then you need some strong proof to prove the majority wrong. And your proof was a big nothing so far.
 
thelastword said:
Go back and read the forums and threads before PS4's launch...….Where do you think "we will never concede 30% came from", "unlimited power of the cloud via azure, just unlimited power, even PC's were in trouble"...….It's all there, don't try to pretend that everybody thought that XBONE would be weaker...…..Go back and read...…..

The hyperbole on anything MS is just a means to a fall.….just like when DF said XBONEX was like a "GTX 1070", which could not be further from the truth......I bet you Leadbetter believes that XBONE will be 12TF since he's already in the 8-9TF camp for PS5...…..It's the same way in a preview of XBONE DF said most of the launch games were running at 1080p 60fps and we all know how that turned out in 2013...…..They have no problem pushing the MS fairydust and "having doubts" on any semblance of PS5 being more powerful or having RT hardware etc.....Things are going to get very interesting the next few months...…
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Your rebuttal is a single PR post by Albert Penella?
Yes,things will be interesting as the evidence of XSX 12tf rdna 2 vs PS5 9.2tf rdna1 continue to pile up as sony fanboys then change the narrative to "but graphics don't matter"all of a sudden. Don't worry guys,Sony is just toying with MS...that 14tf PS5 with HBM, will not ponly be more powerful,but it'll be 399 and the size of a Wii...right guys? I mean its Cerny...right guys?
 
Agnostic2020 said:
Lamo You are an idiot bro . A simple google search would have taken you to the October 2019, 2nd interview where he said the exact same thing as phil in the e3 2019 Scarlett clip . But that's ok it's too much to expect an idiot like you to know stuff outside his Xbox bubble . Thanks . Bye
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🐦 Brain! Xbox will have gamepass raytracing by mid gen and even your mom will buy one!
 
thelastword said:
Not only has Sony shown a launch game with RT in Godfall, they've showed Poliphony Digital working on RT tech on GTS almost a year ago at 8k resolution......People choose to believe what suits them even in the face of evidence....

Cerny said PS5 has RT hardware, who's Cerny anyway, let's believe leakers, Penello et al.....They know more about PS5 than that loon....
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Penella never said PS5 didn't have some form of RT. He predicted a ballpark figure of what he thought PS5 specs would end up being. According to legit spec documents found by well established leakers Komachi/rogame,he appears to be close and it supports Tom Warren,Arthur Gies,Windows Central,DF own sources etc....
 
eastwood333 said:
Your rebuttal is a single PR post by Albert Penella?
Yes,things will be interesting as the evidence of XSX 12tf rdna 2 vs PS5 9.2tf rdna1 continue to pile up as sony fanboys then change the narrative to "but graphics don't matter"all of a sudden. Don't worry guys,Sony is just toying with MS...that 14tf PS5 with HBM, will not ponly be more powerful,but it'll be 399 and the size of a Wii...right guys? I mean its Cerny...right guys?
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The truth is we don't know the hard specs on anything yet, until officialy given...My argument is that in the here and now, I will believe what Cerny said
as opposed to people with a leaning towards MS and MS hardware...….It's not farfetched at all......When these companies unveil their specs, we can all go back and thrash out who was closest and speak of the merits or FUD of 8-9TF or no hardware raytracing for PS5 vs 12TF on the XBOX.....

It's just speculation season, but no one should feel so convinced that he implies people should believe Penello, Leadbetter and leakers over Cerny on PS5 hardware, that's just insane logic....
 
it_wasn't_me said:
Actual documents which provided tests are 7+ months OLD, especially in PS5s case, WITH NO RAY TRACING in it! But guess what, PS5 has hardware accelerated RT. :D
Did you know that DF assuming is 12TF RDNA? No? Now you know. They didn't confirmed it.
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The docs prove sonys TR method is not from AMD. So PS5 can magically go from 9.2tf to 12tf+ in less than a few month,even though its MS dev kits that are late and not as mature? This is actually 2013 all over again,but with sony/ms switching positions. You just wait,PS5 is 14tf,HBM,triple stacked, with a SSD designed by aliens light yrs away! Cerny we trust,,,,right guys? Sony is just toying with MS..pack it up, Phil
 
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eastwood333 said:
The docs prove sonys TR method is not from AMD. So PS5 can magically go from 9.2tf to 12tf+ in less than a few month,even though its MS dev kits that are late and not as mature? This is actually 2013 all over again,but with sony/ms switching positions. You just wait,PS5 is 14tf,HBM,triple stacked, with an SSD aliens light yrs away! Cerny we trust,,,,right guys?
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I'll believe Cerny over any of the other guys.
 
eastwood333 said:
The docs prove sonys TR method is not from AMD. So PS5 can magically go from 9.2tf to 12tf+ in less than a few month,even though its MS dev kits that are late and not as mature? This is actually 2013 all over again,but with sony/ms switching positions. You just wait,PS5 is 14tf,HBM,triple stacked, with an SSD aliens light yrs away! Cerny we trust,,,,right guys?
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But Sony magically can go from 13TF target spec to 9.2 TF in few months which is loss over 40% GPU perfomance. I guess that's seems OK to you and 100% possible. Cheers, Xbox fan!
 
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it_wasn't_me said:
But Sony magically can go from 13TF target spec to 9.2 TF in few months which is loss over 40% GPU perfomance. I guess that's seems OK to you and 100% possible. Cheers, Xbox fan!
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Thats what happens when u put your faith in a few so called insiders (klee) and take their word as gospel.
 
nkarafo said:
i just debunked your examples you showed me but you don't care.

And then you tell me to look for proof myself because you can't provide it.

Nice one but i'll pass.
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Go google it, its literally a click away i dont have all day to google stuff for you.
DESTROYA said:
Can you point out what weak arguments failed? As far as I'm concerned they were just different from your opinions which are just that opinions not fact. Your in denial OP start acting like a man and put more effort into your thoughts instead of posting like a screaming spoiled child.
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You should try acting like how u write, u just said its opinions. So why are u insulting me for posting my opinions?
 
eastwood333 said:
Thats what happens when u put your faith in a few so called insiders (klee) and take their word as gospel.
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Yeah, but about you : Tom Warren,rogame,Komachi,DF own sources,Windows Central,Arthur Gies,Dylan522p,RedTechGaming etc..
Arthur Gies...:D
But rogame provided AMDs data info with PS5 tests which are from May 2019 and DF didn't confirmed in any way that XSX really is 12 TF RDNA.
 
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