PS5 is only in the middle of the journey and we are really planning to expand it even further (Sony CFO Lin Tao)

What will PS5's lifetime sales be?

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Considering the diminishing returns of new hardware and developers opting more and more for cross-gen releases it seems like PS5 is going to be around for a long time yet.

Where as PS4's production was cut short due to the COVID-19 chip shortage and and the effects on PS5's production (last sales update was 117.2 million (as of March 31, 2022), it seems like PS5 console and game production will continue long into PS6's lifespan.



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Depends on how much they can lower the manufacturing cost and still sell it once the PS6 hits shelves. If they can permanently drop the price to $300 for the digital and $350 for the disc version once PS6 releases, they might hit around 125M units by the time all's said and done.
 
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Voted 120-130m so above ps4's 117,2m ltd, and that will happen coz of relatively low competition from xbox and switch2 being mainly handheld.
That assumes nov 2026 gta6 launch which will likely bring additional 15-20m ps5 units sold , if for example(godforbid but we cant be sure) gta6 gets delayed again to mid 2027, then that ps5 gta6 boost will be smaller for the simple reason it will be so close to ps6 launch that sizeable players population might opt out and simply wait for ps6 gta6 version which undoubtfully will be much prettier and will run much smoother.
 
If ps5 portable is included, I wouldn't be suprised if ps5 crosses ps2 in life time sales.

Even without that, considering how long ps5 is going to be viable for( and especially if they can reduce its price), I think it is likely going to reach 140mil.
 
88 million tops.






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I would like to see a long run though. There is zero reason to rush out a new console in the next 2 years.
 
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Insanemaelstrom said:
If ps5 portable is included, I wouldn't be suprised if ps5 crosses ps2 in life time sales.

Even without that, considering how long ps5 is going to be viable for( and especially if they can reduce its price), I think it is likely going to reach 140mil.
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Obviously ps5 "portable" isnt included, hell even portal isnt included.
And forget about price reduction, xbox doesnt compete so we will only experience price increases...
Saying all that ps5 could still reach 140m depending on how long ppl gonna have to wait for ps6/pc gta6 version, the longer the gap between ps5 and those "definitive" version the more ps5 units will be sold...
 
Insanemaelstrom said:
If ps5 portable is included, I wouldn't be suprised if ps5 crosses ps2 in life time sales.

Even without that, considering how long ps5 is going to be viable for( and especially if they can reduce its price), I think it is likely going to reach 140mil.
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Well, that depends whether or not the handheld will be classed as a PS5 or PS6.

Rumours point to it being able to run PS4, PS5 and PS6 games (the latter with very low resolutions).
 
Sony CFO Lin Tao says the PS5 is only in the middle of its lifecycle and they want to expand the lifecycle even further!
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That's why i am convinced that the coming handheld would be marketed as a PS5 Portable. It would be a downgrade of regular PS5 but have its flaws hidden by the smaller screen. If we are going to have up to 5 years of cross-gen then Sony might as well build a handheld for that purpose.
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Rumours point to it being able to run PS4, PS5 and PS6 games (the latter with very low resolutions).
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Consider the number of true PS6 games that would be available at launch (next to none), and the fact that nearly all of it would be First Party, i don't think it is even worth it to market PS6 capabilities when no one would be buying it for that purpose.
 
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That makes sense, 10 years lifecycle. Most publishers will continue to make PS5 games until 2030 which means 2-3 years of cross gen period with future PS6.
The question is if they'll be able to lower prices and position PS5 as entry level console with the PS6 being initially a more premium product, shifting their business metrics to the PS5+PS6 ecosystem rather than trying to kill PS5 and sell PS6 as fast as possible.
 
PeteBull said:
Obviously ps5 "portable" isnt included, hell even portal isnt included.
And forget about price reduction, xbox doesnt compete so we will only experience price increases...
Saying all that ps5 could still reach 140m depending on how long ppl gonna have to wait for ps6/pc gta6 version, the longer the gap between ps5 and those "definitive" version the more ps5 units will be sold...
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Xbox isn't competing for a long time. They literally lost with a 300 bucks console releasing day one lol.

And of course Sony won't be able to increase the PS5 "forever". They are just about to announce a much cheaper model for Japan, just made changes for a PS5 model in Europe to keep costs low as well. Clearly they want it to be affordable.

Anyway, about the OP: As i've been saying, PS5 Pro marked the beginning of the 2nd half of the PS5's lifetime. I'm still team 2028 for the PS6.
 
Tiago Rodrigues said:
Xbox isn't competing for a long time. They literally lost with a 300 bucks console releasing day one lol.

And of course Sony won't be able to increase the PS5 "forever". They are just about to announce a much cheaper model for Japan, just made changes for a PS5 model in Europe to keep costs low as well. Clearly they want it to be affordable.

Anyway, about the OP: As i've been saying, PS5 Pro marked the beginning of the 2nd half of the PS5's lifetime. I'm still team 2028 for the PS6.
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RDNA5 chips should be ready for manufacturing in 2027, but Sony's wording does point more towards 2028

metro.co.uk

Sony reveals new PS6 tech and says next gen console is only 'a few years' away

A new video from Sony discusses what tech you can expect from the PlayStation 6, even if Sony’s yet to refer to the console by name.
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vodka-bull said:
And yet people have wet dreams about PS6 being just around the corner…
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I do expect PS5 to remain on the market long past the PS6's launch. Mainly because of the price.

(Not to mention that the crossgen timeline is going to be longer than even PS4-PS5)
 
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I think the PS4 had more and varied games for it, though. Love my PS5, but you can't compare the libraries. And THAT'S why it had such long lifespan--the games.
 
I'd guess 120m.
More if they can eventually give it a decent price drop.

vodka-bull said:
And yet people have wet dreams about PS6 being just around the corner…
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Why not? (as in, late 2027).
The times when a new console comes out and the previous one instantly gets discarded are gone.
Ps5 will likely continue selling decently and getting plenty of support for many years after the PS6 launches.
The "journey" of Ps5 doesn't end the second the Ps6 gets released.
 
Tiago Rodrigues said:
Xbox isn't competing for a long time. They literally lost with a 300 bucks console releasing day one lol.

And of course Sony won't be able to increase the PS5 "forever". They are just about to announce a much cheaper model for Japan, just made changes for a PS5 model in Europe to keep costs low as well. Clearly they want it to be affordable.

Anyway, about the OP: As i've been saying, PS5 Pro marked the beginning of the 2nd half of the PS5's lifetime. I'm still team 2028 for the PS6.
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I will present 2 vastly different scenarios, with gta6 launch making all the difference:

1st variant
- gta6 launches november 2026 aka no further delays, ps6 launches holidays 2027(we know from very reliable leaks its likely to happen, unless some delay), but only gets gta6 port holidays 2028 aka full 2 years of ps5 gta6 exclusivity(no point to count xbox series, their owners got trained by ms/gamepass to never buy games anymore) and even year after that so holidays 2029 we getting definitive pc version
Here ps5 easily sells 140m units ltd, maybe even 150m.

2nd variant
- gta6 gets delayed again, to mid 2027 this time, with ps6 port happening holidays 2027/early 2028 and pc port coming at similar time/not long after.
That means ps5 only gets 6 months, if that, gta6 "exclusivity", it will still sell 120m+ units, maybe even 130m but no way it breaks 150m like it could durning variant1.


And thats just one variable, that for sure can affect console sales in very substantial way.
 
It's all depends on Sony willingness to sell more PS5s. With PS4 they intentionnaly killed its production to focus on PS5 production.

But if they really are willing to sell cheaper region locked PS5s in Japan then they are really serious about it.
 
This is good to hear. They wasted several years of dev on live service and gaas garbage that ended up tanking or not even releasing when they could've been doing more traditional single player games. I really feel there's alot left still of good things in PS5's future!!
 
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I'd say over 120 million right now is almost a sure thing. If they could make a "cheap" version for emerging markets, they could sell 130 million or more, but it depends on them.
 
Ouch. So PS6 in 2030 then? Or are they talking about having cross gen support?
Good thing they have fully normalized PC ports at least.
 
Id say 110 - 120 in a standard 8 year life cycle.

I can see it being 120 - 130, maybe 130 - 140 if its ten years.
 
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I think the PS5 will be supported well into the late 2030s.
The PS6 won't have much to offer besides better ray tracing.
It's even possible that the PS5 could surpass 150 million units sold.
 
So why the hell do they want to release the PS6?


Don't be naive... The PS5 has barely been out for two real years.

And I mean 2 real years... Because there are hardly any games that take advantage of the console's capabilities.
 
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Thick Thighs Save Lives said:
Depends on how much they can lower the manufacturing cost and still sell it once the PS6 hits shelves. If they can permanently drop the price to $300 for the digital and $350 for the disc version once PS6 releases, they might hit around 125M units by the time all's said and done.
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If the digital is €300 then the disc will be €400.

Sony could do less but they want to tax physical users who buy 2nd hand.
 
Heimdall_Xtreme said:
So why the hell do they want to release the PS6?


Don't be naive... The PS5 has barely been out for two real years.

And I mean 2 real years... Because there are hardly any games that take advantage of the console's capabilities.
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The PS6 is is effectively a PS5 Pro Pro. There's a market for a better console every 4 year's and it's needed so they never fall too far behind PC. Nobody is forced to upgrade.
 
Honestly if you look at what they doing with the PS6 hardware...the rasterization leap isn't going to be crazy. The major difference is going to be in RT.

In that sense they could theoretically have a long cross gen where the main difference is RT....
 
Fbh said:
I'd guess 120m.
More if they can eventually give it a decent price drop.



Why not? (as in, late 2027).
The times when a new console comes out and the previous one instantly gets discarded are gone.
Ps5 will likely continue selling decently and getting plenty of support for many years after the PS6 launches.
The "journey" of Ps5 doesn't end the second the Ps6 gets released.
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We don't know if the console will launch in 2027. With Sony reinforcing that the PS5 will remain an active product for at least five more years, I can see them releasing the PS6 in 2028 or later.

PS5 is still holding momentum, and I honestly can't see a good reason for a new console right now.
 
memoryman3 said:
A cheaper super slim won't happen. That will the PS6 "Series S" docksble handheld they plan to make.
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You're probably right. Maybe they just meant in terms of expanding support and not continued sales for 5 more years. If they plan to sell it for 5 more years then I can't really see them selling the PS5 at this price alongside a PS6 without reducing the cost of the PS5 significantly below it somehow.
 
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vodka-bull said:
And yet people have wet dreams about PS6 being just around the corner…
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This doesn't have anything to do with the PS6 launch Timing

The PS4 comment in the link should have clued you into the fact that the comment is about the cross gen period.

Given how much better balanced the PS5 is compared to the PS4 (decent CPU, fast storage), we can expect cross gen to last past 2030.
 
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