Why are you bumping this thread with this mostly unrelated news though? Especially during the time where there is in fact a price cut/discount on PS5?If anyone was in any doubt about how companies will handle the US tariffs…
Global brands plan to spread tariff price hikes beyond the US
Australian shoppers could soon see higher price tags, as brands affected by Donald Trump's tariffs prepare to increase prices beyond the US market.www.abc.net.au
PS5 price to rise in Europe, Australia and New Zealand
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Hero of Spielberg
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The thread includes discussion about Sony themselves warning potential price rises due to tariffs and is about Sony raising their prices in Australia. And my comment includes an article about companies raising their prices in Australia as a result of US tariffs.
I'm not sure how more related my comment could be.
Why so sensitive?
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Little Mac
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Same. Got it yesterday on sale. $350 after my Slim trade in.
StereoVsn
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So the rest of the world can feel just as Liberated as US. Brilliant!If anyone was in any doubt about how companies will handle the US tariffs…
Global brands plan to spread tariff price hikes beyond the US
Australian shoppers could soon see higher price tags, as brands affected by Donald Trump's tariffs prepare to increase prices beyond the US market.
Because the news of them considering what to do regarding tarrifs is older than the more recent discount that they did do. You then bumped it with an article that doesn't mention any gaming companies considering a global rise to offset US tarrifs. It only mentions the likes of Apple or Pandora. Why are you making the connection with that article to this outdated thread of all things?
Hero of Spielberg
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They're currently on sale, that's not a permanent price drop. It's entirely related.
Seriously what's with the attempts at modding here? Why does this news upset you?
Ashamam
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As a fellow Australian I concur. Its relevant. As for leaving out mention of gaming companies considering it, they've already done it!
Kerotan
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So basically other countries are putting money into Americas pockets.
Instead of the entire price increase going onto America and tanking US sales they spread them and sales drop slightly across the board?
Nobody is attempting to mod. Your article is just completely irrelevant here having read it so I'm not sure what you're playing at. An old price hike already happened in April for Digital PS5s in select regions not related to tarrifs. You then insinuate that they will do it again with an article that isn't related to them in a time where the PS5 has in fact had a price reduction too. Why? Are you trying to suggest they will hike it again in those regions in such a short period? What makes you connect that irrelevant article to this specifically?
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Ashamam
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Check your dates. The contention is the mid April rise in some territories was in fact related to the start of April tariff increase. This article lends that argument weight. Also suggesting the price hike is old is disingenuous at best. Also finally it wasn't just for Digital PS5's it was also for the disk version, albeit a smaller increase.
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Pallas
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Nah, don't listen to T Three , this is completely related. It's a lot bigger than Sony and affects multiple brands, including Sony, and honestly it's better than creating another topic about the cost of tariffs on the video game industry.
I'm guessing it's annoying T Three because it's in a thread about a PlayStation price hike which reflects negatively on Sony(and any company that hikes up prices, looking at you Microsoft and Nintendo.)
kruis
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If anyone was in any doubt about how companies will handle the US tariffs…
Global brands plan to spread tariff price hikes beyond the US
Australian shoppers could soon see higher price tags, as brands affected by Donald Trump's tariffs prepare to increase prices beyond the US market.
I expected this. I commented in a few posts about the effects of these tariffs that there was a high likelihood that consumers in the rest of the world might have to pay higher prices for various goods which would allow manufacturers to dampen the effect of Trump's tariffs. Fair? Absolutely not. It should be US consumers who ought to feel the full brunt of the tariff wars, not consumers in other countries.
If that were the case why would it increase again so soon after tarrifs? What dont you get, I'm saying it's a month old for the rise but actually too soon to rise again so connecting that unrelated article here is what's disingenuous.
No it's the fact that the price hike outside the US has happened (not connected to comments made about tarrifs later) and he's connecting an unrelated article to bump this thread scaremongering about another hike during a time where the PS5 has seen an actual discount.
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mckmas8808
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Yep! Smart huh?........I hate this all.
Hero of Spielberg
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I post an article about companies raising prices in Australia to offset US tariffs in a thread about a company raising prices in a Australia where it has been acknowledged by said company that prices may rise due to tariffs.
You for some reason:
Nope, that's where you are confused about timelines and are insinuating nonsense with your unrelated article. The company raised the prices a month ago in April in regions, with no mention of tarrifs as the cause. then in mid May during an earnings call made a comment that they are considering tarrifs and how to deal with them by moving manufacturing or increasing prices (no mention of other regions). As you can see one preceeded the other. You were so confused that even you didn't know whether it had happened or not and edited your initial reply to me. from you saying thisI post an article about companies raising prices in Australia to offset US tariffs in a thread about a company raising prices in a Australia where it has been acknowledged by said company that prices may rise due to tariffs.
You for some reason:
"The thread includes discussion about Sony themselves warning potential price rises due to tariffs"
Which was you suggesting another price increase, to you changing what you said (removing this in your edit) and saying the prior increase in April was in fact due to tarrifs. But go off, have fun with your nonsense.
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Hero of Spielberg
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Maybe if they had an earnings call in April they would have said it then.
Keep getting upset though. Fucking bizarre behaviour tbh
What? How the hell is that possible when they are talking about dealing with tarrifs with an increase after having already raised it a month prior? Meaning their discussion after about possible increases due to tarrifs is not about the April increase that's already happened. What's bizarre is your flipflopping behaviour struggling to decide how to connect the article and Sonys tarrif comments. The April hike and their May tarrif comments are not related, though I can see why you're trying hard to relate them together for the connection to your article.
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Hero of Spielberg
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I'm not suggesting the May comment caused the April price hike. What I'm saying is that the May comment was referencing tariff conditions that were already well known and likely factored into decisions made earlier. Companies like Sony would have been aware of the tariff increases as early as February, well before the April price change.
It's entirely reasonable to think they began adjusting prices in response to those pressures and may continue to do so. Maybe they didn't cite tariffs in April because they were waiting to give more detailed commentary during the earnings call.
Why is it so hard to believe that rising costs from known tariffs could influence pricing? And honestly, why are you getting so worked up about it being pointed out?
Tiago Rodrigues
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Weird that you bumped this topic for this, specially on a Plystation topic since a brand new PS5 here in Portugal:If anyone was in any doubt about how companies will handle the US tariffs…
Global brands plan to spread tariff price hikes beyond the US
Australian shoppers could soon see higher price tags, as brands affected by Donald Trump's tariffs prepare to increase prices beyond the US market.
Digital: 400€
Physical: 450€
In America: PS5 (physical version) + COD Black Ops 6 = 449 dollars
Hum...
Hero of Spielberg
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Good thing the topic of the article isn't about pricing in Portugal then huh?
And what is the Portuguese pricing meant to demonstrate anyway?
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No you were suggesting possible increases due to tarrifs happening and using May comments as the evidence for April:
Why would this have happened if tarrifs were what was "well known and factored into" the April hike? Why would there be a warning in May for something that has happened in April? Why would they be mentioning how they might deal with tarrifs in May if they had done this already in April. You knew this didn't make any sense since I said a price hike so soon is unlikely and the later comment is unrelated. Then you went and edited the post after the fact to say something completely different.
Of course rising cost from tarrifs could influence prices but it's the jumping through hoops trying to find the connection to your unrelated tarrif article that's in question. March/April is usually the rise of RPIs/CPIs so any rise even those unrelated to any tarrifs happen around that time. It's the fact that you're trying too hard to connect that rise to tarrifs by using comments made in mid May about possible increases or manufacturing changes that doesn't make any sense and you know it. simply because they mention tarrifs in May after the fact. There is no connection between the two or your article.
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Hero of Spielberg
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Hero of Spielberg
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You're misrepresenting what I'm saying. Again, I never claimed the May comment caused the April price hike. I said the price hike could have been influenced by tariff developments that were already public knowledge as of February and March. That's not 'jumping through hoops', that's just how multinational companies work: adjusting pricing in anticipation of changing conditions, especially when costs are clearly about to rise.
Sony may not have publicly cited tariffs in April, but that doesn't mean they weren't a factor. Then in May, they acknowledged the impact more directly. That's a common thing for companies to do, act first, explain later. If you disagree, that's fine, but pretending the context of the tariffs is irrelevant because the word 'tariff' wasn't used in April is just not realistic.
Having read some of your other comments it's clear you're upset that this somehow paints Sony in a bad light (despite many other companies doing the same). It's OK, this isn't an attack on Playstation, you don't have to be upset. It was just an article that is relevant to the discussion in the thread.
They didn't "explain later". That's you again convoluting and insinuating things. They didn't "explain" April hikes in May they suggested possible plans they could do to deal with the tarrifs going forward (no connection or mention of April hikes or other regions). If they had already done this with the April action there would be no future plans discussed. They would have simply said we have hiked prices to deal with tarrifs. Instead they said they are looking at the possibility of increases for tarrifs. This was during an earnings call so they could not lie either. They were discussing possibilities to deal with tarrifs not explaining an April hike.
Nobody is upset but it's clear what you're trying to do. If you're upset about it just get a PS5 now while not only has the price not increased yet due to tarrifs but is currently lower than before. Have at it rather than ranting about the possibility that the April hike could have been due to US tarrifs because they mentioned the word tarrif regarding future plans in May.
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Hero of Spielberg
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I already own a PS5, I have nothing to be upset about (except their current GaaS binge).
You don't think it was due to tariffs. Fine... move on to another thread.
GHG
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Hero of Spielberg
why did you decide that this was the thread that you would bump when you actually made direct reference to what's discussed in the article you shared during the Xbox price increase discussions:In light of that how did you decide that it was more appropriate to bump this thread instead of that one?
Hero of Spielberg
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Because I had commented in this thread before and remembered it. I can post it over there too if it would make you happy?
In light of that how did you decide that it was more appropriate to bump this thread instead of that one?
Also, this one specifically mentions Australia.
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Tiago Rodrigues
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Global brands plan to spread tariff price hikes beyond the US
Is Portugal in the USA? It's an european country that has the same prices as all of europe?
Hero of Spielberg
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Sorry, I don't get your point? Are you saying because it is relatively cheaper in Portugal that it isn't happening?
GHG
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Actually a new thread general thread would have been more appropriate, but I'm just trying to understand your logic here.
T Three isn't wrong in stating that it doesn't actually have any direct connection to this thread and that the article itself doesn't make any direct references to any gaming hardware price increases. So why you thought this was the one that should get the bump out of all the price increase threads that we've seen over the last few months (including PC hardware) is something that's difficult to make sense of.
Your only 2 previous comments in this thread were as follows:
So like I said, your comment in the other thread actually had far more of a correlation to your article than anything you said here.
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Hero of Spielberg
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GHG
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Oh silly me then, this must not have been in the OP of the other thread when you did your "search".
Hero of Spielberg
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GHG
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Yes, because I'm sure you went to the lengths of doing a search to ensure you could find the most on-topic bump possible for your non gaming specific article.
Hero of Spielberg
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GHG
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That's good.
On a scale of 1-10 how concerned are you about the prospect of Birkenstock shoes increasing?
Hero of Spielberg
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GHG
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I'm not sure there's much cross-over in terms of supply chains for Birkenstocks and consoles but personally I wouldn't be so concerned, they are awful shoes.
Hero of Spielberg
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GHG
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Didn't say he had to search for the news article.
They do indeed, but if you've been paying attention there are now also differing tarrifs for various product/material categories so it makes things far more complex (read "Worldwide, product-specific tariffs"):
Trump 2.0 tariff tracker
According to President Trump, “Tariff is the most beautiful word in the dictionary.” Throughout his presidential campaign, Trump promised to use tariffs
www.tradecomplianceresourcehub.com
And just as an FYI, birkenstock already announced they would be increasing their prices globally in line with tarrifs 2 weeks ago.
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Hero of Spielberg
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Didn't say he had to search for the news article.
They do indeed, but if you've been paying attention there are now also differing tarrifs for various product/material categories so it makes things far more complex (read "Worldwide, product-specific tariffs"):
Trump 2.0 tariff tracker
According to President Trump, “Tariff is the most beautiful word in the dictionary.” Throughout his presidential campaign, Trump promised to use tariffs
And just as an FYI, birkenstock already announced they would be increasing their prices globally in line with tarrifs 2 weeks ago.
All part of that 'challenging economic environment' Sony are worried about.
NickFire
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This story is just trying to start conversation that will get the thread shut down or people in trouble for going to far into politics though. What really is the point?
Hero of Spielberg
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There's no political commentary. Just a discussion around price increases of PS5 as a result of tariffs.
I already own a PS5, I have nothing to be upset about (except their current GaaS binge).
You don't think it was due to tariffs. Fine... move on to another thread.
You can think it is and you think this article is relevant and worth the bump, that's fine. I do question why you (especially as someone who already owns a PS5 and was unaffected in April nor is anyone affected right now considering it's now cheaper to get a PS5) decided hmm let me bump this thread of all threads to show what unrelated companies are doing to deal with tarrifs.
The article/news was. the thread wasn't on your national broadcaster though. It's the thread he apparently searched for with those terms, not the news.
He said he remembered this thread then he edited his post and said it mentioned Australia so it came up in a search.
Question is why didn't it make him think of a more recent price hike to AUS$849 that happened just this month? Why would he remember the less shocking one from 2 months ago but not the more recent news/thread just this month? I know hero of Spielberg, I know he prefers xbox so it's not like he just doesn't follow or care about xbox news to have not known or remembered the other. That may not be the case with you for you to have that come to mind when you saw that article.
He was more recently active in that other thread and made a very pertinent post he could have quoted when referencing this article. His search term just being "tarrif" with his username would have shown the most relevant post he could have attached that article to as the top result. An "I told you so" win with it too. Ironically his TLDR summary of that article (which surprise surprise doesn't have the term Australia in it) that he posted here when somebody asked for a TLDR would again have shown his very pertinent post in the other thread as a top result. But alas he decided this is where it goes even though he is now bumping every thread knowing "global brands" in shoe and jewellery don't limit his article to just this thread (could have just started a new general thread about what he believes is happening with price hikes across this industry, he'd be wrong but still at least consistent and without bias).
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Hero of Spielberg
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You can think it is and you think this article is relevant and worth the bump, that's fine. I do question why you (especially as someone who already owns a PS5 and was unaffected in April nor is anyone affected right now considering it's now cheaper to get a PS5) decided hmm let me bump this thread of all threads to show what unrelated companies are doing to deal with tarrifs.
The article/news was. the thread wasn't on your national broadcaster though. It's the thread he apparently searched for with those terms, not the news.
He said he remembered this thread then he edited his post and said it mentioned Australia so it came up in a search.
Question is why didn't it make him think of a more recent price hike to AUS$849 that happened just this month? Why would he remember the less shocking one from 2 months ago but not the more recent news/thread just this month? I know hero of Spielberg, I know he prefers xbox so it's not like he just doesn't follow or care about xbox news to have not known or remembered the other. That may not be the case with you for you to have that come to mind when you saw that article.
He was more recently active in that other thread and made a very pertinent post he could have quoted when referencing this article. His search term just being "tarrif" with his username would have shown the most relevant post he could have attached that article to as the top result. An "I told you so" win with it too. Ironically his TLDR summary of that article (which surprise surprise doesn't have the term Australia in it) that he posted here when somebody asked for a TLDR would again have shown his very pertinent post in the other thread as a top result. But alas he decided this is where it goes even though he is now bumping every thread knowing "global brands" in shoe and jewellery don't limit his article to just this thread (could have just started a new general thread about what he believes is happening with price hikes across this industry, he'd be wrong but still at least consistent and without bias).
Because I think it's interesting to see how companies deal with the tariffs.
Seeing as you think this is all some conspiracy I've made up, here's a few other outlets at the time of the price rise news who connected the tariffs as well for your reading:
Sony hikes PlayStation 5 price by 25% as Trump tariffs bite
PS5 digital price in UK would rise to £430 and €500 in Europe as Japanese games developer cites ‘challenging economic environment’
www.theguardian.com
PS5 price increases by £40 as Sony cites 'challenging' conditions
The digital, disc-free edition of Sony's console has increased by roughly £70 since it first went on sale.
www.bbc.com
Sony hikes PlayStation 5 prices in multiple regions, citing challenging market - Tech Digest
Sony has announced a price increase for its PlayStation 5 consoles across several key markets, including the UK and Europe
www.techdigest.tv
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ArtHands
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That explains everything. I cannot imagine why will these Playstation people feel so emotional over a price hike thread for the PS5.
dotnotbot
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Sony still cares about selling significant amount of units and their US market share has always been lower than in EU/Australia. Simple calculation who can spend more on their products before looking for an alternative.
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