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[XXL]

Reading the Best Buy PS5 Pro listing I noticed this.

Play at 60fps, or up to 120fps, with 4K Output and Ray Tracing for Compatible Games
With the power of the PS5 Pro, compatible games can be played at 60fps, or up to 120fps, with Ray Tracing and AI enhanced 4K resolution using PSSR— all at the same time—on your 4K TV.

I've never heard this mentioned before.

It's also says this

Enhanced Image Quality for PS4 Games
Turn on the Enhanced Image Quality for PS4 games feature to enable additional system post processing power that can improve the resolution for select PS4 games.

 

[ChiefDada]

PCMR in shambles.

 

[SweetTooth]

This beast is getting better everyday!

 

[hououinkyouma00]

I think it’s just weird wording. It’s just a this is capable of all 3 at the same time not it’s guaranteed for all games.

 

[XXL]

PCMR in shambles.

I want to know more about the different modes the PS5 Pro has available.

(Ex. Performance, Fidelity, Balanced, etc.)

 

[XXL]

I think it’s just weird wording. It’s just a this is capable of all 3 at the same time not it’s guaranteed for all games.

Correct, but it says "all at the same time" for compatible titles.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

I think it’s just weird wording intentional misleading by marketing. It’s just a this is capable of all 3 at the same time not it’s guaranteed for all games.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Represent.]

I just want to see what devs can do at 4K30 on the PS5 PRO.

 

[kiphalfton]

PCMR in shambles.

 

[GHG]

PCMR in shambles.

 

[Bitstream]

Sony: Releases Pro Machine to target 60FPS

I just want to see what devs can do at 4K30 on the PS5 PRO.

 

[GoldenEye98]

Why does getting details about this thing seem like pulling teeth..

 

[RoboFu]

I'm back in the PSSR
You don't know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the PSSR

 

[XXL]

 

[Zathalus]

Should be doable, obviously using PSSR and very limited RT effects. Something lik RE Village or Doom Eternal could potentially do it.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Elden Ring RT mode at a capped 60 would be nice to see.

 

[Project EVE]

Will the PS5 Pro improve even the non-compatible PS5 games in loading, frame rate, or graphics in some ways? If not then I'll wait.

 

[XXL]

Should be doable, obviously using PSSR and very limited RT effects. Something lik RE Village or Doom Eternal could potentially do it.

GT7 comes to mind.

 

[Ronin_7]

What does that enhanced iq for ps4 even mean?

 

[Alebrije]

I just want to see what devs can do at 4K30 on the PS5 PRO.

PS5 PRO Will let You time travel on more stable frames than PS5.

 

[XXL]

Will the PS5 Pro improve even the non-compatible PS5 games in loading, frame rate, or graphics in some ways? If not then I'll wait.

Yes. We don't know if it's with a patch or not yet.

But it sounds like some things needs to be patched, but other enhancements don't.

 

[TrippleA345]

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

PS5 can output 4k120HZ with Ray Tracing too.

 

[Senua]

PCMR in shambles.

 

[Zathalus]

GT7 comes to mind.

I’m not sure about that one, 60fps is already dropping to 1188p->4k to keep the RT reflections. GT7 reflections have a very high roughness cutoff and trace the entire scene with no reduced geometry, hence they are computationally very expensive. I suppose if they downgrade the roughness cutoff and trace a simpler scene in the reflections it should be possible.

 

[Interfectum]

PCMR in shambles.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

ALL AT THE SAME TIME!!!

 

[GoldenEye98]

Will the PS5 Pro improve even the non-compatible PS5 games in loading, frame rate, or graphics in some ways? If not then I'll wait.

Sounds like a boost mode can be applied to non-patched games and also upscaling? to enhance image quality of PS4 games

IIRC boost mode on PS4 Pro basically just brings it up to the fps cap.

It would be nice to nice to see some examples of this. Maybe DF will get more direct footage soon?....

 

[DeepEnigma]

I’m not sure about that one, 60fps is already dropping to 1188p->4k to keep the RT reflections. GT7 reflections have a very high roughness cutoff and trace the entire scene with no reduced geometry, hence they are computationally very expense. I suppose if they downgrade the roughness cutoff and trace a simpler scene in the reflections it should be possible.

That's PSSR with RT acting accordingly. Exactly what DLSS with RT does from lower resolutions to 4K.

 

[XXL]

I’m not sure about that one, 60fps is already dropping to 1188p->4k to keep the RT reflections. GT7 reflections have a very high roughness cutoff and trace the entire scene with no reduced geometry, hence they are computationally very expense. I suppose if they downgrade the roughness cutoff and trace a simpler scene in the reflections it should be possible.

I'm pretty sure the demo they showed CNET was 8k 60fps.

If so, 4K (using PSSR) at 60fps with RT seems in the cards for GT7.

Honestly, I'm more interested in what it can do for GT7 VR more than anything.

 

[Bojji]

I can't believe PS fans are this naive. They will eat all the PR bullshit.

We already know 1440p, 1080p and even 840p games WITHOUT any RT on Pro. Good luck with 120fps on 2019 CPU.

 

[Zathalus]

I'm pretty sure the demo they showed CNET was 8k 60fps.

If so, 4K (using PSSR) at 60fps with RT seems in the cards for GT7.

Honestly, I'm more interested in what it can do for GT7 VR more than anything.

Oh yes, RT at 60fps is already confirmed. Just not sure how feasible RT + 120fps would be without some downgrades to the RT quality.

 

[ThaMonkeyClaw]

I just want to see what devs can do at 4K30 on the PS5 PRO.

I want to see what they can do at 8K and 5fps...
(joking)

 

[XXL]

Oh yes, RT at 60fps is already confirmed. Just not sure how feasible RT + 120fps would be without some downgrades to the RT quality.

Oh I agree with that.

120fps with RT seems unlikely with GT7 (at 4K using PSSR).

 

[DeepEnigma]

I can't believe PS fans are this naive. They will eat all the PR bullshit.

We already know 1440p, 1080p and even 840p games WITHOUT any RT on Pro. Good luck with 120fps on 2019 CPU.

I mean, it's just going to run those PS4 games at "120" mode that the PS5 does now. But more consistently.

 

[BlackTron]

I can't believe PS fans are this naive. They will eat all the PR bullshit.

We already know 1440p, 1080p and even 840p games WITHOUT any RT on Pro. Good luck with 120fps on 2019 CPU.

It's a good thing they've never misrepresented the abilities of a Pro console before so we have no reason to worry.

 

[nnytk]

Oh yes, RT at 60fps is already confirmed. Just not sure how feasible RT + 120fps would be without some downgrades to the RT quality.

How is GT7 for a casual player btw? It seems like a very grind-heavy f2p title at this point. I remember seeing looooads of DLC for GT7, years ago. How does the game hold up these days? I'm tempted to give it another go when I get the pro...

Regarding that DLC, I might be confusing GT7 with Horizon...

 

[GoldenEye98]

I mean, it's just going to run those PS4 games at "120" mode that the PS5 does now. But more consistently.

PS4 games at 120?

 

[Bitstream]

It's a good thing they've never misrepresented the abilities of a Pro console before so we have no reason to worry.

Don't worry, he'll be back with some other fabricated reasons to be upset. For someone on their pc gaming high horse it really seems like they don't have much better to do than talk shit about consoles

 

[DeepEnigma]

PS4 games at 120?

Yes. All those PS4/5 games that had 120 modes.

All PS5 Games Running at 120fps

Maximum speed

www.pushsquare.com

 

[bitbydeath]

I can't believe PS fans are this naive. They will eat all the PR bullshit.

We already know 1440p, 1080p and even 840p games WITHOUT any RT on Pro. Good luck with 120fps on 2019 CPU.

Rainbow Six Siege already does 120FPS on the PS5.

 

[BlackTron]

Don't worry, he'll be back with some other fabricated reasons to be upset, for someone on their pc gaming high horse, it really seems like they don't have much better to do than talk shit about consoles

I was being sarcastic. They did misrepresent the abilities of Pro. They even changed the box!

I think some PC people are acting unnecessarily threatened yes. Do I meet this Best Buy thing with skepticism, also yes.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Doesn’t really seem like anything new. Unless they are going to claim a game isn’t compatible unless the devs guarantee 60FPS then it’s just marketing you can’t fully trust.

 

[GoldenEye98]

Yes. All those PS4/5 games that had 120 modes.

All PS5 Games Running at 120fps

Maximum speed

www.pushsquare.com

Those are PS5 games though. Are there PS4-only games that run 120fps?

 

[XXL]

Yes. All those PS4/5 games that had 120 modes.

All PS5 Games Running at 120fps

Maximum speed

www.pushsquare.com

There a bunch of games on that list I would replay at 4K, 120fps with RT.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Those are PS5 games though. Are there PS4-only games that run 120fps?

Rocket League does not have a native PS5 app
There are several others that do not as well.

 

[Javi97]

It's not a lie if they use Frame generation

 

[GoldenEye98]

Rocket League does not have a native PS5 app
There are several others that do not as well.

Sure. I thought you meant it was doing 120fps to PS4-only games in general...which I didn't think was possible since most are capped at 60 at best.

 

[Sooner]

I just want to see what devs can do at 4K30 on the PS5 PRO.

I'll tell what they can do at 30fps. They can GTFO.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Sure. I thought you meant it was doing 120fps to PS4-only games in general...which I didn't think was possible since most are capped at 60 at best.

Ah yeah, my bad. I should have been more specific.