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PS5 Pro Specs Leak are Real, Releasing Holiday 2024(Insider Gaming)

Lysandros

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Almost double the Series X, curious to see how well this plays out in terms of real world performance. The RAM bandwidth isn't impressive so hopefully this can make up for some of it.
To be fair GPU L2 situation is in favor of PS5/XSX.

PS5 PRO: 4 mb, ~66.7 kb per CU
PS5: 4 mb, ~111 kb per CU
XSX: 5 mb, ~96 kb per CU

(Not to overlook L0 increase from 16 kb to 32 kb on PS5 PRO.)
 
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twinspectre

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Was this posted here?

I am not seeing a big upgrade here. Were there other screenshots in his video?
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If you want to play with raytracing + 60fps and 4K be ready for disappointment, because bigger games won't give you all of that goodness.
In FHD then things are going to be different, because in FHD you can have your 60fps and raytracing.
 
DF are saying that PS5 Pro supports Mesh Shaders as well, although a lot of context is missing here and it raises a lot of questions. What do they mean support? on a hardware level or a software level?

We already know PS5 has the hardware for Mesh Shaders, but there's a potential lack of API support. Maybe there's an updated API for the Pro?

We also know that Mesh Shaders aren't natively supported on AMD hardware (RDNA whitepapers don't make mention of Mesh Shaders either), they are compiled down to Primitive Shaders on all Radeon GPU's including the Series X/S. Maybe RDNA 3.5 and 4 introduce a new hardware feature which allows for native mesh shader support and the Pro will benefit from this.

On Pro's "Mesh Shader" support :




EDIT :

Simple explanation is that the PS5 Pro's API has a new shader stage to take advantage of RDNA 3's newer geometry engine and mesh shader functionality, more specifically the "Mesh Shader Fast Launch State", which is more in line with DX12 API.
 
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mckmas8808

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Was this posted here?

I am not seeing a big upgrade here. Were there other screenshots in his video?
yXQuLcs.jpg


Oh I see noticable differences for sure. Plus, I'd like to know what resolution these three pics are being rendered at. That'll give us more information that's needed.
 

Bojji

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Oh I see noticable differences for sure. Plus, I'd like to know what resolution these three pics are being rendered at. That'll give us more information that's needed.

They were talking about 1080->4k upscaling in this paper so I guess base resolution is 1080p.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
They were talking about 1080->4k upscaling in this paper so I guess base resolution is 1080p.

WHOA BOY!!!!! If correct, this is MASSIVE!!!! Rendering a game like R&C: Rift Apart at 1080p gives the developer so much more "rendering budget" to use for other stuff. And if they can render it at 1080p with PSSR, but it looks like 4K to the naked eye, we are in for a treat!!!


This is how a game like GTA6 could run at 60 fps on the PS5 Pro folks!
 
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Durin

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A value-add that would actually get me to get a PS5 Pro would be to offer more backwards compatibility, at least PS1-PS2 with increased pixel resolution or some other upscaling method. I know they offer cloud streaming versions of older games, but the latency sucks.

The disc laser in my old fatty ps3 stopped working, and I'd like to play my older game library on the new device that doesn't sound like a jet engine when it boots.

Since it will likely have a detachable disc drive option, would be cool if it could read older games, even though everything I'm asking is incredible unlikely.
 
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PeteBull

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Sorry for the bump people hoping for more spec leaks but seems launch window “is really close” to Black Ops 6 launch.
Nice, even more confirmation that we should be getting official reveal soonish, very likely in september so barely over 2 months from now =D

Edit: BO6 Launches on 25th oct so that early/mid november ps5pr0 launch date checks out indeed =D
 
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Alebrije

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Just imagine of PS5 PRO ends being nothing? Just hope Sony Ninjas are working pretty good becuase we are reaching July and we still not have something tangible.
 
Nice, even more confirmation that we should be getting official reveal soonish, very likely in september so barely over 2 months from now =D
Yeah when Sony revealed Astrobot I was really hoping we would be playing that on the Pro but not happening so it seems.

Just imagine of PS5 PRO ends being nothing? Just hope Sony Ninjas are working pretty good becuase we are reaching July and we still not have something tangible.
We have had a lot of confirmation from different places that are considered pretty trustworthy or at least those places got the Dev documents
 

Hydroxy

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Will PS5 owners upgrade to Pro? I don't think console owners like constantly upgrading their system like a PC. Majority will just wait for PS6 which is the logical thing to do.
 

Alebrije

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Yeah when Sony revealed Astrobot I was really hoping we would be playing that on the Pro but not happening so it seems.


We have had a lot of confirmation from different places that are considered pretty trustworthy or at least those places got the Dev documents
Hope they release it , being saving money and stoped buying gaming related stuff time ago only to get a PRO..anyway worse case scenario is that Will end with more money for Holydays in case Sony moves it to 2025.
 

Audiophile

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Gonna hazard a guess at something like Oct 17th/24th/31st or Nov 7th/14th then.

That said, they dropped the PS5 Slim on a Friday unlike they last few major hardware releases which were Thursday, so perhaps add 1 to each.

Was kinda hoping they'd throw a curveball and do a September release like the PS4 & PS5 Slims -- it'd pair nicely with Astro Bot. For some reason I thought PS4 Pro came out in October but I was muddling it with PSVR(1).
 
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PeteBull

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MikeM

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Tarnpanzer

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At minimum what do you guys think this upgrade will be, a 20-25% improvement? Less?

~50% for non RT-Titles. ~100% for RT-Titles is my guess. 20% would be a joke.

It also depends on how good Sonys own AI-upscaler(Playstation Spectral Super Resolution) is.
 
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Dorfdad

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I’m starting to think we may not get a 2024 launch. Could be wrong but if they don’t announce soon it’s basically July now they might slip to early 2025 with the switch 2
 

reinking

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Will PS5 owners upgrade to Pro? I don't think console owners like constantly upgrading their system like a PC. Majority will just wait for PS6 which is the logical thing to do.
Not upgrading my current but buying a Pro.

Sony4Life!
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..just kidding about the Sony thing. I want a dedicated PS5 for VR and waiting for the Pro before getting another.
 

vivftp

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I’m starting to think we may not get a 2024 launch. Could be wrong but if they don’t announce soon it’s basically July now they might slip to early 2025 with the switch 2

lol, no.

A Pro console doesn't need a several month hype cycle from announce to release. All that would do is tank the PS5 sales for the next several months by letting folks know something better is around the corner. Just like with the PS4 Pro, they'll likely announce it in September for a November release. That's the absolute latest they can announce it to let folks get their pre-orders in and build up hype for the holiday launch. That way it has a minimal impact on PS5 sales.
 

PeteBull

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At minimum what do you guys think this upgrade will be, a 20-25% improvement? Less?
60-70% in rasterisation, much more in ray tracing coz base ps5 has pretty terrible rt capabilities, thats all according to leaks/common sense.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7800-xt.c3839 gpu will be this one just downclocked so ps5pr0 can stay total under 220W(whole console powerdraw, not just gpu), hence u can take away 10-15% perfromance from this gpu and u get very close to actual ps5pr0 performance.
 

Haint

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Will PS5 owners upgrade to Pro? I don't think console owners like constantly upgrading their system like a PC. Majority will just wait for PS6 which is the logical thing to do.
Most of their core customers have had their PS5 for 4 years, which used to be an entire console generation prior to the PS360 and PS4 generations prolonging it to 7+ years, so yeah you'll find no shortage of people happy to buy another PS5.
 

Dorfdad

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lol, no.

A Pro console doesn't need a several month hype cycle from announce to release. All that would do is tank the PS5 sales for the next several months by letting folks know something better is around the corner. Just like with the PS4 Pro, they'll likely announce it in September for a November release. That's the absolute latest they can announce it to let folks get their pre-orders in and build up hype for the holiday launch. That way it has a minimal impact on PS5 sales.
Maybe but if they don’t announce anything which they haven’t people won’t wait a few months. Price drop for holidays to sell out inventory and announce it in Jan. Hope I’m wrong but it’s possible
 

PeteBull

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where is it the miz GIF by WWE



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Dunno what more u need, bro, 60-70% stronger gpu, same cpu but with mild overclock, much more raytracing performance(likely over 2x), we already know everything except actual physical look and price(but price wise it will likely be 500 to 600usd so really low margin of error here either).
We are about 2,5-3months before reveal event, we are patient enough xD
 
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