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[Oblivion78]

But can he explain it to them and how to fix it, pretending it's not an issue and ignoring it isn't a valid answer.

Mark Cerny, "Just get good".

 

[BennyBlanco]

Trying to get out in front of the Nvidia stuff

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Ha, Mark Cerny confirming the 33 TF figure is no where in the developer docs just like I mentioned is a possibility a while back. But no, some people took exception to that.

Remember when it was 66TF at first as people thought that 33 was halved?

I am going to pull a pat on the back for my sources here but his 16TF number was pretty spot on considering this date I “guessed” this

 

[j0hnnix]

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Now THIS is more like it. Regardless why they didn't do this prior the launch, good to see they've done it now. This is where Cerny's in his element

Gonna start watching this in a bit.

 

[LordOfChaos]

 

[Imtjnotu]

Sony's personal ASMR

 

[gooner4life_uk]

Just like that Cerny proves I was right all along, it's an RX 6800 RDNA 2 GPU with custom ML and RT functions bolted on, where's Gaiff at?

Gaiff you and winjer tried to discredit me repeatedly when i said it was clearly an RX 6800 in the PS5 Pro, you will learn like all the others.

 

[Bruno_Arrais85]

Cerny's ASMR

 

[Gaiff]

Gaiff you and winjer tried to discredit me repeatedly when i said it was clearly an RX 6800 in the PS5 Pro, you will learn like all the others.

I mean, it isn't a 6800 lol. This isn't the win that you think it is.

 

[Nonehxc]

And there it is, the Secret Sauce.

CNN.

 

[Xtib81]

Ngl, they've done a pretty poor job with the pro considering the price.

 

[REDRZA MWS]

I got my ps5 pro day 1. It’s the same fucking thing I see no difference, but the ps5 base is beast itself. Now we need cerny to tell us what actual consumers and users are seeing? No thanks. Sony misses Krazy Ken.

 

[winjer]

Gaiff you and winjer tried to discredit me repeatedly when i said it was clearly an RX 6800 in the PS5 Pro, you will learn like all the others.

And it's not, for a big chunk of it. Only the compute and raster are RDNA2.
The geometry engine is RDNA3, the RT is RNDA4, and the ML is a custom WMMA implementation.
An RX6800 will never be able to have the same upscale quality and performance of the Pro. Neither the same geometry throughput. Neither the same RT performance.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

As a PC first gamer I am really excited to see consoles get better when it comes to performance/visual targets. I'm getting a Pro and finally catching up on some single player games.

 

[tmlDan]

But can he explain it to them and how to fix it, pretending it's not an issue and ignoring it isn't a valid answer.

how is he ignoring it, wtf

 

[Kings Field]

Looks like my old high school librarian Mrs. Kahutka

 

[DeepEnigma]

Gaiff you and winjer tried to discredit me repeatedly when i said it was clearly an RX 6800 in the PS5 Pro, you will learn like all the others.

Because it's not "clearly a 6800 in the PS5 Pro"

Stop being obtuse. 6800 isn't even mentioned.

 

[rofif]

FINALLY video we needed.
Let's hope people will stop spewing bs that it's just a mid pc. This is completely differnet architecture and solutions

 

[Forsete]

Great interview by Oliver.

Time to watch some Cerny now. Love that man.

 

[NastyPasty]

Cool maybe he'll explain why some games looks like shit.

I demand that Bosch, the manufacturer of my oven, explain why my tea tastes like shit.

 

[j0hnnix]

Soo.... Still no BB Remake or Bloodborne 2 announcement.

 

[Damigos]

i just LOVE Cerny

 

[LavitzSlambert]

And just like this, he coined a new term to hit the FLOPS people with in the head...

'FLOPFLATION'

FLOPS inflation.

Wake up babe, flopflation memes are here. Saving this for next gen console wars ahead.

 

[Rat Rage]

The first 20 seconds are already pathetic: "This is a bits and bites talk with no game footage at all". Sure, THIS is how you sell an overpriced useless pice of hardware to your gaming audience. On the other hand, we already know there is nothing to sell anymore. He's not showing game footage because the actual real word difference is miniscule and not worth the money. This "technical seminar" is not gonna help sell PS5 Pro's at all.

Who is this technical presentation even for?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

The first 20 seconds are already pathetic: "This is a bits and bites talk with no game footage at all". Sure, THIS is how you sell and overpriced useless pice of hardware to your gaming audience. On the other hand, we already know there is nothing to sell anymore. He's not showing game footage because the actual real word difference is miniscule and not worth the money. This "technical seminar" is not gonna help sell PS5 Pro's at all.

Who is this technical presentation even for?

Me me me

Though I don’t understand about 97% of it

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Bugaga should also take part in this seminar.

He's scared

 

[Nonehxc]

FULLY FUSED NETWORK.

Yep, that image appears on the video.

 

[Vick]

Getting comfy, AVR set to reference volume.. ready to go.

 

[Bitstream]

FINALLY CERNY

 

[spons]

Cerny talking is my white noise.

 

[Gaiff]

Sounds like Cerny was really pissed at all the misinformation being spread online. He addressed a lot of it very specifically.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Just like that Cerny proves I was right all along, it's an RX 6800 RDNA 2 GPU with custom ML and RT functions bolted on, where's Gaiff at?

Time stamp?

 

[mansoor1980]

RDNA 2.X baby

 

[Nonehxc]

A COMBINED BANDWITH OF 200TB PER SECOND!

 

[Bojji]

I like that he quotes Digital Foundry, haha.

I really like this presentation, listening to Cerny is really calming experience.

 

[Wandering Leopard]

Who is this technical presentation even for?

No doubt it's for a particular audience, but at the minimum it keeps PS5 pro in peoples minds as we approach Christmas and perhaps driven by AMD x PlayStation.

 

[Sorcerer]

Party on Wayne!!!

 

[Topher]

The first 20 seconds are already pathetic: "This is a bits and bites talk with no game footage at all". Sure, THIS is how you sell and overpriced useless pice of hardware to your gaming audience. On the other hand, we already know there is nothing to sell anymore. He's not showing game footage because the actual real word difference is miniscule and not worth the money. This "technical seminar" is not gonna help sell PS5 Pro's at all.

Who is this technical presentation even for?

Same people who are always interested in the tech side. If it isn't you then it isn't you.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Anything about PSSR issues?

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Trying to get out in front of the Nvidia stuff

Follow the leader

 

[OverHeat]

Lots of Cerny simps in this thread!

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Lots of Cerny simps in this thread!

 

[winjer]

This presentation reinforced the idea that the SoC for the Pro should have some Infinity Memory. Maybe 32 or 64MB.
It would do a lot to help feed the Compute, RT and ML units.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

“It could only make our future brighter” Cerny on PSSR

I told you people us early adopters were beta testing this shit for PS6 so its improved for everyone else

 

[sono]

"300 Trillion Operations per Second"..

 

[Topher]

Gaiff you and winjer tried to discredit me repeatedly when i said it was clearly an RX 6800 in the PS5 Pro, you will learn like all the others.

Probably because they were looking at more than just teraflops

 

[Gaiff]

This presentation reinforced the idea that the SoC for the Pro should have some Infinity Memory. Maybe 32 or 64MB.
It would do a lot to help feed the Compute, RT and ML units.

Not using dual-issue either. I figured it was too much work with the compilers for devs, so it makes sense they didn't bother with it. I was hoping there would be something here to perhaps leverage it somehow, but it ain't happening. Too bad, but oh well.

 

[Nankatsu]

Need to watch this later on, but I suspect that Mr. Cerny won't be able to coin flip my decision.

As much as I would like to binge the pro, it will end up felling like a pure flex situation, and I'm not in the mood for that.

 

[FrankWza]