winjer
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Cerny made the right call by not having VOPD. It would be an hassle to have 2 shader codes for this generation, for a marginal performance improvement.
And it probably saved a bit of die space.
PS5 Pro Technical Seminar with Mark Cerny
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Cerny made the right call by not having VOPD. It would be an hassle to have 2 shader codes for this generation, for a marginal performance improvement.
And it probably saved a bit of die space.
mansoor1980
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AMETHYST in ps6 confirmed
nvidia in shambles
nvidia in shambles
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Lucifers Beard
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Interesting video if you're into the technical side of things.
DiddyInAHellcat
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Damage Control 
Nonehxc
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There are more than a few pointers Cerny gave in the presentation that MS should write in stone and hang on the developer/engineer room.
Like, in essence, not making developer's lifes more complicated but simpler and EASIER.
One would think that after Series S, they would learn.
But seeing as how EVERYTHING is gonna be an Xbox, and add a handheld and a high powered PConsole and a Grandma with a kitchen sink, weeeeeeell..
Like, in essence, not making developer's lifes more complicated but simpler and EASIER.
One would think that after Series S, they would learn.
But seeing as how EVERYTHING is gonna be an Xbox, and add a handheld and a high powered PConsole and a Grandma with a kitchen sink, weeeeeeell..
Anchovie123
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Just finished the video, he says future iterations of PSSR to have frame gen and denoising.
analog_future
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That's pretty huge and acts as a hint of what to expect with PS6.
Can't wait for next years games for Ps5 pro.
rickybooby87
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My only complaint is that his presentation was not 8 hours, only 37 minutes!?
Skitso
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He does not. He specifically said those are not part of PSSR which is Spectral Super Resolution. Those will be Spectral "something".
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S0ULZB0URNE
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What are you doing?
Topher
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Proving his avatar is wrong
Snowdonhoffen
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Yeah, I mean. For better or worse Cerny is a game developer, so the PS4 and PS5 were designed with developers in mind by a developer.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Wrong link my bad
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winjer
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Another interview with Cerny.
wccftech.com
The Mark Cerny Q&A - We Ask About VRR Improvements, PSSR FG, Path Tracing, and the ML Project with AMD
Last month, we had the great pleasure of an exclusive one-on-one chat with PS5 Pro Lead System Architect Mark Cerny. Here's the full Q&A.
wccftech.com
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DanielG165
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We've known this for how long though, to be fair?
Horseganador
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There is no summary on any page?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's a 40 minute tech seminar, no one's gonna type it all down lol. Quicker to watch it probably.
rickybooby87
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DanielG165
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The PS6 is going to be pretty nice with a refined and much more mature version of PSSR.
Xtib81
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"It could only make our future brighter" Cerny on PSSR
I told you people us early adopters were beta testing this shit for PS6 so its improved for everyone else
You also said that numbers wouldn't be impressive but that demos would do the talking. We're still waiting ^^.
Haint
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Why in the world are they doing this more than a month after the console released? This is weird as fuck, every who cares already bought the thing and has beaten 2 or 3 games on it. There are already a million hours of Youtube videos dissecting every game, wtf is the purpose of this media tour? Sales must have dropped to negative zero after the diehards bought their preorders.
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FalconPunch
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For people with technical minds so apparently not you. Not everything is made for you and the world does not revolve around you. Many of us had questions about the design and this video answers several of those questions.
HeisenbergFX4
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Give devs time to cook, hoping games built on this new tech keep looking better and better
DeepEnigma
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Because it was mostly about revealing their partnership with AMD on Amethyst, and to offer a general outline of their strategy going forwards.
Vick
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More exciting, he already mentioned Path Tracing use on future machines.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Not Cerny, but people saying "it's the developers" so it's not a problem.
Maybe you guys are missing understanding me.
I expect Cerny to speak in his calming voice talking to them like you would a child and explaining to those developers how incompetent they are and ridicule and explain to them how to get good.
LordOfChaos
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Just finished the conference, Cerny is a master class. Never felt like he oversold anything, just, this is the theoretical math in a best case scenario with this kind of math, these are the realistic limits. It sounds like Amethyst is the start of PS6?
On to the next one, if anyone this page hasn't seen:
On to the next one, if anyone this page hasn't seen:
Throttle
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Will Sony add Low Framerate Compensation or LFC to improve the Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) experience on PS5 and PS5 Pro?Another interview with Cerny.
The Mark Cerny Q&A - We Ask About VRR Improvements, PSSR FG, Path Tracing, and the ML Project with AMD
Last month, we had the great pleasure of an exclusive one-on-one chat with PS5 Pro Lead System Architect Mark Cerny. Here's the full Q&A.
Mark Cerny: There are ongoing discussions about where we should be taking VRR, and that's definitely part of those discussions.
Jinzo Prime
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Maybe trying to get ahead of new hardware being announced in January. We know Nvidia will announce new cards, and suspect AMD will too, along side new upscaling tech.
Nintendo is very likely to announce Switch 2 next month, and Valve seems to be getting close to releasing Deckard and more Steam OS powered devices. It seems Sony may want to keep PS5 Pro in discussion.
S0ULZB0URNE
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It's outselling the previous much cheaper PS4 Pro.Damage Control
Nice Troll err try.
mansoor1980
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what would sony do without mark cerny
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Cerny doesn't want to be there. He doesn't really answers anything. But I love when he says "it's mid gen refresh, bigger gup duh. ITS NOT THAT COMPLEX".
And here we are fighting over this shit when cerny just says as it is. It's a fucking perf improvement like new gpu. What the hell were you expecting lol.
edit: It's kinda a sickness of the internet era. Everything is downright disassembled and overanalyzed way way way wayyyyy too much.
I still like him. He kinda seems like he doesn't care lol
I get the feelings that this many modes and settings in some of pro games is certainly a failure.
Not a big fan myself of the alllll temporal future ;/ But at least pssr is cleaner than fsr2 crap.
I am playing my console on the same tv/monitor (lg c1) that's connected to my pc. Sitting in my secretlab chair. I was ALWAYS playing consoles on monitors like pc. Even back in 360 days.
So I always judged the image quality up close like pc.
That insomniac guy is downright creepy though. I don't like the fake shiny eyes he have
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TehGoomba7s
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It's a great one when you consider their rival console at the same storage is $100 less and a lot weaker.
MasterDerico
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Plan B
Putonahappyface
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Damage control.
bundylove
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Get to work lazy ass
Tomofdahook17
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Dude playstation will absolutely crush it again when they update PSSR with that.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Putonahappyface
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Digital Foundry have sent Oliver in to question Cerny.
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SweetTooth
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What a fantastic seminar by the LEGEND himself.
Haven't watched the whole thing but I like how Sony prioritize minimal effort on the devs for Pro consoles.
Haven't watched the whole thing but I like how Sony prioritize minimal effort on the devs for Pro consoles.