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PSN Hack Update: FAQs in OP, Read before posting
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where were they caught? what information has come out? Surely you are not refering to my post where I just explained why CFW more than likely played a role in this and why packet sniffing on data between PSN and a PS3 would be pointless. Nowhere in there did I or anyone else say they were using client side validation, etc.IchigoSharingan said:
the amount of hyperbole in this thread is ridiculous. Sony will never recover. No one will ever buy a PS3. Strike that, no one will ever buy a SONY product, etc.
in six months almost no one will care. This type of leak has never brought down a company before and it certainly isn't going to bring down or irreparably damage a $30B+ corporation. Settle down people.
If you are worried about your credit cards, cancel them and get new ones issued. If you are worried about your passwords, change them. If you are truly pissed about this, hop aboard the inevitable class action lawsuit. But let's at least try and tone down the hyperbole and conclusion jumping that is making up like 99% of this thread now.
SRG01 said:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/galleries/security/attacks/229300675?pgno=1
its just the scale of the PSN, but how many of the 77M accounts are legit lol
Phonomezer
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The absolute worst thing about all of this is how long it took Sony to communicate this information to their customers. 6 days. Pretty outrageous.
Angry Fork
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I'm a really huge Sony/PS3 supporter but this has definitely shaken me up a bit. I used my debit card on purchases before, someone in this topic told me I should cancel my current card and ask for a new debit card (which I did, just got back from the bank now, said it should take 7-10 days before I get my new card but the current one can't be used anymore). After this whole thing ends i'll have to strictly do pre-paid card stuff from now on, or those PSN card things they sell in some stores.
This really sucks though for everyone. I really like Sony products though and the PS3 is a great machine, I hope this doesn't fuck them up too much to the point where it kills the brand name entirely. The RROD didn't do that for the 360 so maybe Sony can turn this around, I guess we'll have to see in the coming months what they do and how bad it gets (if anyone gets identity theft and stuff like that).
This really sucks though for everyone. I really like Sony products though and the PS3 is a great machine, I hope this doesn't fuck them up too much to the point where it kills the brand name entirely. The RROD didn't do that for the 360 so maybe Sony can turn this around, I guess we'll have to see in the coming months what they do and how bad it gets (if anyone gets identity theft and stuff like that).
test_account
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Are there any info on how the hack was done so that we know if it was "lax security" or not?Zenith said:
Yes. The reason for this is because i dont see how this affects the publisher that much (besides PSN being down, so that PS Store is down so they cant sell their games and that online multiplayer doesnt work for their games, but PSN will be up sooner or later). What matter the most for the publisher is to get the games out there and sell as many copies as they can.-PXG- said:
dr_octagon
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Sony's communication, or lack of, has compounded the issue. E-mails should have been sent out before, or alongside, the official statement on the blog.
(This would be the same for any company when there has been security breach)
(This would be the same for any company when there has been security breach)
BolognaSoup
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AgentChris said:
If credit card owners don't know this already, they should really not be credit card owners.
CadetMahoney
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*sigh*Salaadin said:
your sopposed to say lost/stolen otherwise you get charged and your credit rating goes down.
CartridgeBlower
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I can't see smaller publishers wanting to sign exclusive deals with PSN now for their games, simply because you have to think less people will be buying games on PSN now that this has happened.
If people stop putting up their credit cards, that shrinks the market to people who strictly use pre-paid cards. And that's a lot less buyers for your game.
If people stop putting up their credit cards, that shrinks the market to people who strictly use pre-paid cards. And that's a lot less buyers for your game.
SRG01 said:
For me it's the amount of info they have taken. I've been notified of data breaches before from other companies but never have they gotten userid/pw, cc info, email, personal name/address/DOB and security question before (and mine unfortunately is my mother's maiden name). That is way too much fucking information for another person to have and I have no clue what to do about it. For god damn sure I'm taking out the real information out of my PSN profile if I ever get the chance, it was probably stupid of me to provide real information to them in the first place.
Stumpokapow
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Atolm said:
I definitely think you're right, but I'd say that most of the people who are getting the most mad right now probably weren't aware of how bad it was until now. And a lot of them probably want more stringent protections; bigger fines for companies who are subject to breaches, enormous fines for companies who are complicit by negligence in breaches, harsher sentences for black market CC buyers/fraudsters/sellers, etc--so their anger here is very consistent with the state of things in the world.
FTH said:
The times I've had my wallet stolen or misplaced, I've "cancelled my credit cards". I've never actually closed an account or anything, I just cancel the existing cards in favour of being sent replacement ones. Maybe it's a regional expression or something. I understand the confusion.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Yeesh, get a wee bit embellished with the reactions here.
iNvidious01 said:
Well, problem is, even if someone has a questionable charge on their card, there's no way to know whether or not it is related to PSN. Right now everyone is paranoid about their CC activity, so there will be a lot of false positives for fraudulent, PSN-related charges. time will tell...
Not sure if it's related and this may be pure coincidence, but my debit card number was stolen and charged today for $500 at an online store. I was lucky and caught it today as it comes straight out of my checking account. I called the online store and they didn't let the charge complete, it's just pending at my bank. I cancelled my card and got another one. I used this card to pay my PSN subscription. My bank recommended I not use a debit card for this and use a credit card instead in case this happens again. I'm lucky I'm getting my money back. Hopefully this doesn't happen to anyone else.
JetBlackPanda
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sangreal said:
while I know the bank will back me up, Why not take the extra steps and make sure im safe?? it cost me nothing.
SolidSnakex
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-PXG- said:
Publishers are in this for money. If a game sells on a system then they're going to support it. It's that simple. Yes, i'm sure companies are going to be upset at Sony over this, but they aren't going to stop supporting them over it.. Those same companies will likely be on their asses to make sure that their new security system is as good as it can be. And that'll be a good thing for everyone.
This wont stop anybody from getting your CC #'s and info. All of your info is already on the internet and even if you dont shop online,JetBlackPanda said:
this info can still be accessed by hackers. Everybody stop being so paranoid. Nothing you can do to stop people from getting your info if they want it.
All you can do is take counter-measures. The more ppl that understand this, the less paranoia that goes around. No need to panic, just screen all activity
on your cards and emails....this is something you should be doing ANYWAYS. This situation just reinstates that ideal.
FunkyPajamas
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Somebody tried to buy a condo in the Bahamas with my credit card but it reached its limit.
God that must have been embarrassing. I feel bad for the hacker.
God that must have been embarrassing. I feel bad for the hacker.
obonicus said:
I can guarantee you that there were, are, and will be meetings, amongst publishers, as well as shareholders, discussing whether or not if Sony's network security, including their overall ability to do business, is at all sound.
Will there be games for NGP? Of course. But don't think for one second that publishers and investors aren't having second thoughts or have some level of apprehension when it comes to making deals with Sony in the future.
Does PSN have lax security though?Zenith said:
I see so many people jumping to the conclusion that it did, just because it was hacked.
This is the one thing people can legitimately be angry at Sony for now imo.Phonomezer said:
I already suspected this data was compromised due to the PSblog posts, but the general public didn't know. There were no emails or pr statements until now.
AgentChris
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This is what happens when monkeys run your service Sony.
Elfforkusu
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Yeah, reconsidering the "waiting" thing. IIRC, PSN only asked me for CC info the first time I bought something...
Which is to say, hackers probably have everything they need to start stealing stuff. Time to cancel!
Which is to say, hackers probably have everything they need to start stealing stuff. Time to cancel!
TheBaldEmperor
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lawblob said:
Posting this again since this thread is flying. There is no way to know if the two are related. This was just my recent experience.
Originally Posted by spindashing:
Sorry for my bluntness, but:
Are there any reports of anyone's Credit Card/Debit Card being utilized as a result of this hack?
This may be a total coincidence but the credit card I had on file was used last week on the 21st to buy over $1000 of cosmetics from some online Canadian cosmetic store. My bank called me on the 22nd, removed the charges, and sent me a new card.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xKV9BFEEXQ&feature=player_embeddedhttp://
This was on Destructoid, I don't even.
This was on Destructoid, I don't even.
Alright, I've cancelled my debit account, and changed my email password (which is the same as my PSN password).
For the likes of Amazon, Paypal, eBay, I use completely different passwords.
There is no need for me to change OTHER passwords, right? All other websites in my LassPass vault are essentially... RANDOM. Like various forums and shops, where credit card details MUST be entered to purchase items.
For the likes of Amazon, Paypal, eBay, I use completely different passwords.
There is no need for me to change OTHER passwords, right? All other websites in my LassPass vault are essentially... RANDOM. Like various forums and shops, where credit card details MUST be entered to purchase items.
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