NullPointer
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Sounds reasonable. What isn't reasonable is how some of this data was able to accessed in the first place.DMeisterJ said:
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WHAT THE HELL? Y2Kev, come at me bro.Y2Kev said:
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plainr_ said:Steam on PS3 is the only saving grace. Do it Sony.
at e3:
"When the ps4 comes out... It will be steam powered"
You should know that your not the only one Changing passwords and canceling CC.styl3s said:
It was already been said that it takes time to investigate something this big, they cannot just come out with some information without making sure of it. Thats why in my opinion it takes so long for them to come up with some real information. But cmon, it's not Sony's fault, but the stupid hackers.
I just feel that people should stop blaming Sony. That's all...
HomerSimpson-Man
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IchigoSharingan said:
I don't know, man. Wouldn't it be like you're watching while a man forces himself onto your girlfriend against her will......wait...what the hell kind of analogy....I think I need a drink.
Metalmurphy
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Persona7 said:
Netflix isn't connected to PSN, it's also still working.
DevilWillcry
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No, they would have had to have breached Netflix's security which would be a far bigger issue than this. You're CC info for Netflix is with Netflix, not Sony.Max said:
Sony was extremely myopic, at best, in going at a mostly nebulous entity like 'hackers' in the fashion they did. This is what a lot of the more vindictive ones live for. This is their entire raison d'etre. They'll use anything they can as a form of motivation, and the more they feel chagrined by a certain course of action a company or whoever takes, the greater the vigor with which they'll fight back.
What did Sony honestly expect? That's my big question. Never mind their security, which the past few months have shown to be more full of holes than swiss cheese; how on earth did they not see this sort of thing coming? And if they were expecting to be revenge hacked, that's probably even worse, since they seem to have prepared for it in the most ineffective way imaginable.
Regardless, you're always going to be one step behind hackers (it's the same reason piracy is nearly impossible to truly stop), so the best course of action tends to be not to rile them up. If you're in a position where you essentially have to, then take some precautions. Sony just threw caution to the wind entirely and now they're paying heavily for it. Too much hubris.
What did Sony honestly expect? That's my big question. Never mind their security, which the past few months have shown to be more full of holes than swiss cheese; how on earth did they not see this sort of thing coming? And if they were expecting to be revenge hacked, that's probably even worse, since they seem to have prepared for it in the most ineffective way imaginable.
Regardless, you're always going to be one step behind hackers (it's the same reason piracy is nearly impossible to truly stop), so the best course of action tends to be not to rile them up. If you're in a position where you essentially have to, then take some precautions. Sony just threw caution to the wind entirely and now they're paying heavily for it. Too much hubris.
GillianSeed79
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baekshi said:
I agree the hackers that did this should go to jail, but when do hackers ever get caught, though, unless they brag about it publicly? I seriously doubt this was the work of a single basement dweller. If they are skilled enough to do this, they are probably smart enough not to get caught. If they were caught, which country would they be prosecuted in? That's not even getting into the problem of extradition treaties. What if the hackers live in like Nigeria or China? Would those countries even hand them over if they were caught?
LiquidMetal14
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Nope, Sony is just taking precaution.Max said:
DrForester
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People don't seem to get that there's two thing happening.
hackers screwed up PSN. That's on the hackers, it sucks and it happens. Losing CC info also sucks if true.
Sony's job notifying the public as to the breach is a totally separate thing, as while the Hackers set things in motion, they had nothing to do with Sony's bumbling of the situation. You think your users CC data has been compromised you bite the bullet and let them know ASAP, you do not sit on your ass and keep the customers uninformed.
hackers screwed up PSN. That's on the hackers, it sucks and it happens. Losing CC info also sucks if true.
Sony's job notifying the public as to the breach is a totally separate thing, as while the Hackers set things in motion, they had nothing to do with Sony's bumbling of the situation. You think your users CC data has been compromised you bite the bullet and let them know ASAP, you do not sit on your ass and keep the customers uninformed.
Grinchy
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I dunno, I agree with the people who assumed that hackers who want e-fame do stupid shit like little DDoS attacks to pull something down and post Nelson jpgs.shagg_187 said:
The people who penetrated the network to steal consumer information are probably more professional in nature, and have a motive that isn't e-fame. Like they want our identities. Those kinds of people are not coming forward. Just like a successful bank robber isn't going to post about his successes on 4chan.
Wario64 said:
Yap, just as I expected. ^_^
It's not easy to do forensic analysis for a huge network. They need to find out what happened and where the entry points were amongst tons of traffic and many servers.
They likely pressed the hot button the moment they confirmed personal info has been accessed. Regardless of whether CC info is obtained, they have to alert everyone using the fastest way possible (i.e. via the press).
The email alert should go out too (probably being organized). It will take another few days to a week plus to get them out.
XiaNaphryz
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Video game related press releases don't usually hit the mainstream press is what he's getting at.mr_nothin said:
EricHasNoPull
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"First! even my super talented coding skills can't figure out how to develop shit on these things and now it steals all my moniez !! fuck it I'm selling all six of them on eBay!"
So much trolling on this page and the last...
So much trolling on this page and the last...
Felix Lighter
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You really think that would have been worse than the current situation?Gritesh said:
LiquidMetal14
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They did not know the extent, as was said. It sucks that idiots do these things but those words are right in the tweet there.DrForester said:
Metalmurphy
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DrForester said:
They didn't knew till yesterday. If you believe them that is.
IchigoSharingan
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Metalmurphy said:
They did something alright. THEY SET THE HOUSE ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!
Dominican Power
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My debit card was on my psn account but I haven't used it a long time and it has no money, does the bank close down the debit card after long periods of not using it?
sflufan said:
Look at this thread.
There is no confirmation that any credit card information has been compromised but people are going ape shit insisting that everyone is all up and in their accounts.
It would have been even more so on day one.
I do agree that they could have handled it better but it really was a no win situation.
plainr_ said:Steam on PS3 is the only saving grace. Do it Sony.
Actually, having some big and trusted company grant for Sony security would help a lot after this PR debacle.
Something like Google or whatever. A simple "Security system powered by Google" sort of thing.
I don't even know if Google does security stuff first hand tho.
DevilWillcry
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So let me get this straight, did hackers actually bring down PSN? Or did Hackers compromise personal consumer data and thus Sony took PSN down to rebuild and strengthen security for the network? Because I was thinking it was the latter.DrForester said:
Goro Majima
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Well we can be fairly sure that someone lost their job over this. Sad thing is that I have little doubt that Sony has people working on this around the clock with little employee resistance because they're probably all afraid of losing their job :\
Patrick Seybold offered clarification on why Sony took as long as it did to notify PSN customers. His full statement sent to IGN is below:
http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/116/1164186p1.html
http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/116/1164186p1.html
Metalmurphy
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You do realize that there's no such thing a secure network right? Microsoft has been hacked countless times, Visa has been hacked, Mastercard, NCSoft, Gawkes, etc etc etcD4Danger said:
We don't know how competent were the hackers and how incompetent was Sony's security.
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