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[IchigoSharingan]

The one smart thing Sony did do in this situation was immediate shutdown of the network. A lot of companies would not have the balls to do that and would have attempted to save face by keeping it up. I do commend them on that one.

Which could be much like a bank closing its vault after all the money has been looted. Guess we'll find out in the days to come.

 

[MalboroRed]

There's some upside. We can now identify everyone who bought Sonic Unleashed and ban them all.

Aren't they punished enough? They punched themselves in the dicks and you want to kick them in the balls?

 

[Dreamgazer]

Forget Microsoft or Sony being hacked, this was simply fucking crazy:

The UK Government. Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs. Stolen data discs!

25 million individuals affected (out of about 60 million people in the UK) including

7.25 million families
names of all Child Benefit recipients i.e. the parents
names of their Children
dates of birth
addresses
Child Benefit Numbers
National Insurance Numbers (NINOs)
Bank or Building Society account details

This was in 2007.

Epic fail.

Everyone has forgotten about the ordeal now, but the UK Government isn't a company so people can't 'boycott' it or so to speak. I feel the boycotts to Sony may be damaging to the company and to their reputation.

Thank you, now you give me a valid reason to trash the Royal Wedding.

 

[bangai-o]

you guys are outrageous. If my female girlfriend sleeps with some other guy, Is that my fault too? blaming Sony is stupid

 

[lowrider007]

PSN got hacked??????? no way

It meant it's not good this news hitting the major news outlets.

 

[Psi]

OpenSSL is a library providing SSL capabilities in a secure fashion. It's probably one of the most widely distributed libraries, and for good reason.
http://www.openssl.org/related/apps.html

Security through obscurity isn't really security at all. Using a proven, thoroughly tested and vetted piece of software, and BUILDING on that, is a tried and true method.

I was actually more referring to game design

 

[Rebel Leader]

PS1 download for Threads of Fate, a PS1 game that was added last week.

Worth getting? Cause I got ff9 off of a whim and loved it. (never played ff9 in my life)

 

[Mama Robotnik]

What are these knee-jerk reactions blaming the victim of a crime before all the facts are known even if the victim is a Japanese corporation?

Some of the posts are wilfuly and disturbingly mean spirited at the very least.

Personally, feel sorry for SCE and hope things eventually sort out with no damages to consumers.

Hackers and cyber criminals are a reality. There are networks of zombie computers, configured by viruses or malware, to attack as guided. This is the reality of the internet, and anyone who works in IT security needs to maintain a constant awareness of exploits combined with persistent vigilance.

Sony were given the data of 70 million people, and as such had a moral and legal obligation to secure it (as many other companies successfully do). Their security (apparently partially reliant on an insane assumption that their client-side security was indestructable) combined with waiting many, many days to inform their customers of the potential risk, does not make them a victim, it makes them incompetent to a potentially-criminal degree.

Someone in this thread has already compared Sony to a rape victim, in probably the most insane post I've read in ages.

The only thing they are victim of is their own stupidity and arrogance. They should have had better security (ala Steam, XBLA), and more efficiently informed their customers as to exactly what had transpired.

 

[mugurumakensei]

I'm surprised that no one has came forward an said that they were behind this. I thought hackers love that e-fame.

That's because these guys aren't hackers but information thieves. They steal this shit then sell it to various third parties.

 

[Wario64]

http://www.twitter.com/jimreilly

"There's a difference in timing between when we identified there was an intrusion and when we learned of consumers' data being compromised."

"It was necessary to conduct several days of forensic analysis and it took our experts until yesterday to understand the scope of the breach

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Amazon sells PSN titles? Holy shit.

Yeah, I didn't know that either. Great to know for the future.

 

[DMeisterJ]

Hopefully the free game we get is Go! Sports Ski!

 

[Mael]

There's some upside. We can now identify everyone who bought Sonic Unleashed and ban them all.

Damn and I thought nobody would know if I bought Sonic 06 dlc!

Spoiler

no I didn't, like REALLY

If anyone is interested in buy the ps3 on ebay, google ads to the rescue

 

[Griffin]

Still waiting for Chad Warden's reaction.

 

[plainr_]

If I recall, CC information gets deleted when you change your PSN password. Last thing I purchased with my CC was last year. I remember changing my PSN password like 3 times this year so I think I'm good.

 

[Hex]

NOTHING!

 

[MalboroRed]

you guys are outrageous. If my female girlfriend sleeps with some other guy, Is that my fault too? blaming Sony is stupid

Is there such a thing as a non-female girlfriend?

 

[DevilWillcry]

Let it flow...

Pretty soon the idiocy will consume GAF and corrupt it into a second GameFAQs.

 

[Rebel Leader]

http://www.twitter.com/jimreilly

"There's a difference in timing between when we identified there was an intrusion and when we learned of consumers' data being compromised."

"It was necessary to conduct several days of forensic analysis and it took our experts until yesterday to understand the scope of the breach

I agree with that.

 

[FirstInHell]

It is a sad day when the people defending Sony's actions resort to digging up 5 year old articles about a few Xbox Live accounts being stolen.

 

[Kagari]

Worth getting? Cause I got ff9 off of a whim and loved it. (never played ff9 in my life)

Never played it but I am collecting all the PS1 JRPGs from PSN because I never owned a PS1 :x

 

[luxarific]

Does anyone think that PS3-linked Steam account info may be at risk? Not hugely worried because of Steam Guard, but I'm just wondering if it's a possibility, since it sounds like they grabbed everything.

 

[Revolutionary]

you guys are outrageous. If my female girlfriend sleeps with some other guy, Is that my fault too? blaming Sony is stupid

What??

EDIT:
Threads of Fate is a solid game. It's no Brave Fencer Musashi, though.

 

[Metalmurphy]

http://www.twitter.com/jimreilly

"There's a difference in timing between when we identified there was an intrusion and when we learned of consumers' data being compromised."

"It was necessary to conduct several days of forensic analysis and it took our experts until yesterday to understand the scope of the breach

Any sane person would assume this...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27415562&postcount=569

 

[Angry Fork]

There's some upside. We can now identify everyone who bought Sonic Unleashed and ban them all.

But the music is amazing =(

Spoiler

I still haven't played Unleashed, but I still want to because I love the music so much. It's the one thing the Sonic guys haven't managed to fuck up yet.

 

[Kagari]

Does anyone think that PS3-linked Steam account info may be at risk? Not hugely worried because of Steam Guard, but I'm just wondering if it's a possibility, since it sounds like they grabbed everything.

Valve said no.

 

[DMeisterJ]

http://www.twitter.com/jimreilly

"There's a difference in timing between when we identified there was an intrusion and when we learned of consumers' data being compromised."

"It was necessary to conduct several days of forensic analysis and it took our experts until yesterday to understand the scope of the breach

Well, there goes the 'Sony knew for 6 days' argument. They knew for a day.

 

[RyanDG]

you guys are outrageous. If my female girlfriend sleeps with some other guy, Is that my fault too? blaming Sony is stupid

9 times out of 10, it is your fault.

 

[demosthenes]

Sony's security is inadequate and they took a week to inform consumers about the danger their cc info was in.

I've seen this said a couple of times....how do we know this?

9 times out of 10, it is your fault.

:lol

Well, there goes the 'Sony knew for 6 days' argument. They knew for a day.

Glad they said this, they said they hired a security firm in to investigate, makes sense that they didn't know on day 1.

 

[DevilWillcry]

Is there such a thing as a non-female girlfriend?

If you count post-op homosexual/bisexual transgenders....technically?

 

[IchigoSharingan]

you guys are outrageous. If my female girlfriend sleeps with some other guy, Is that my fault too? blaming Sony is stupid

if you just stood there as he wailed on her with his pink meat hammer, yeah.

 

[ClosingADoor]

It is a sad day when the people defending Sony's actions resort to digging up 5 year old articles about a few Xbox Live accounts being stolen.

You must have missed the links to government data getting stolen multiple times a year.

 

[rSpooky]

It is a sad day when the people defending Sony's actions resort to digging up 5 year old articles about a few Xbox Live accounts being stolen.

hey someone asked for a source and he got it..

 

[PsychoJecht]

http://www.twitter.com/jimreilly

"There's a difference in timing between when we identified there was an intrusion and when we learned of consumers' data being compromised."

"It was necessary to conduct several days of forensic analysis and it took our experts until yesterday to understand the scope of the breach

This is actually reasonable. Too bad the pea-brains will not understand this.

 

[Gritesh]

http://www.twitter.com/jimreilly

"There's a difference in timing between when we identified there was an intrusion and when we learned of consumers' data being compromised."

"It was necessary to conduct several days of forensic analysis and it took our experts until yesterday to understand the scope of the breach

This is what people have been saying, it would have been a catastrophe if they came out day one and said:
"Omg all your data is stolen"
Then 6 days later they came back to say:
"Nope sorry we were wrong its all ok."

 

[Uno Venova]

http://www.twitter.com/jimreilly

"There's a difference in timing between when we identified there was an intrusion and when we learned of consumers' data being compromised."

"It was necessary to conduct several days of forensic analysis and it took our experts until yesterday to understand the scope of the breach

Yup, seems about right. I never got the notion that they waited to tell people I'm sure they told people when they themselves found out.

 

[chubigans]

It is a sad day when the people defending Sony's actions resort to digging up 5 year old articles about a few Xbox Live accounts being stolen.

Mama asked, so there's the link. Anyone comparing some schemers getting a few XBL accounts vs the 70 million hacked at once is batshit insane.

 

[Aeana]

you guys are outrageous. If my female girlfriend sleeps with some other guy, Is that my fault too? blaming Sony is stupid

That's a really poor analogy.

Sony's responsibility is to keep the data secure. And in the event of a breach, it is Sony's responsibility to inform those affected as quickly as possible. The hackers might have done something really stupid, but that does not absolve Sony of responsibility.

 

[sflufan]

http://www.twitter.com/jimreilly

"There's a difference in timing between when we identified there was an intrusion and when we learned of consumers' data being compromised."

"It was necessary to conduct several days of forensic analysis and it took our experts until yesterday to understand the scope of the breach

Then you provide people with at least a warning that there was a possibility that their data may have been compromised so that they can take appropriation action.

You don't bloody well wait 6 freakin' days to do that!

 

[Max]

My dad's fucking Netflix account is on my PS3.

Should I be paranoid

 

[baekshi]

Amazon sells PSN titles? Holy shit.

Holy shit.

 

[luxarific]

Valve said no.

Yay! Thanks!

 

[jercruz]

i wonder if those raging and finally calling it quits well, really mean it. or maybe a month or two after this has settled all this raging will be forgotten? but i agree, regardless it makes for some very interesting and fun reads

note that i have a phat ps3 that died, got replaced by sony, died, and now got what seems like a stable replacement. i havent used it since besides the occasion turning it on and loading a game to see if its still working. its been a long time since i deleted my billing info (december last year), but i am a bit concerned whether sony actually did deleted it on their end...

also what a nice way to announce the PS4! "Bigger! Badder! More secure!"

 

[notworksafe]

It is a sad day when the people defending Sony's actions resort to digging up 5 year old articles about a few Xbox Live accounts being stolen.

It's a sad day when a grandfather has to sell all 6 of his PS3s and his jeans just to get by, am I right?

 

[Psi]

you guys are outrageous. If my female girlfriend sleeps with some other guy, Is that my fault too? blaming Sony is stupid

It is if you were cheating on her with your male girlfriend.

 

[DevilWillcry]

It is a sad day when the people defending Sony's actions resort to digging up 5 year old articles about a few Xbox Live accounts being stolen.

There are sadder things in this thread that are far more obvious....

 

[Metalmurphy]

if you just stood there as he wailed on her with his pink meat hammer, yeah.

You think that's what happened? Sony saw the hackers going into their servers and did nothing?

lol...

It is a sad day when the people defending Sony's actions resort to digging up 5 year old articles about a few Xbox Live accounts being stolen.

What exactly were Sony actions?

 

[plainr_]

Steam on PS3 is the only saving grace. Do it Sony.

 

[Persona7]

My dad's fucking Netflix account is on my PS3.

Should I be paranoid

tell your dad to change his passwords

change your passwords

 

[Duke Togo]

It is a sad day when the people defending Sony's actions resort to digging up 5 year old articles about a few Xbox Live accounts being stolen.

Shouldn't you be tending to your ps3 ebay listings?