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PSN Hack Update: FAQs in OP, Read before posting
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Kagari said:
Yeah, it's one of the most common yet preventable ways people get their accounts hacked. They'll use the same password or only slight variations (e.g. numbers replacing letters) for everything.
It needs to be drilled into more people's heads that you should use notably different passwords for your various logins, ESPECIALLY if it's a case like PSN where you're logging in with an e-mail address (which functions as a 'username' at many sites, including obviously with that e-mail account itself).
I don't doubt that a very significant number of people have identical PSN and e-mail passwords with that same login, and those are the people in most immediate danger of being hacked. And if those people kept those two PWs identical then they're also likely to be using that same password at other sites, and those can potentially be invaded as well using either their PSN e-mail ID or regular handle ID.
greyshark
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TTP said:
Well if you've got millions or even thousands of accounts to go through, how else would you access them? Doing it by hand would take forever - I'd assume they'd use some kind of program in an attempt to mine whatever data they could.
It's been so long since I've typed in my password to my PSN account I'm not completely sure, but I think my Yahoo and PSN password were the same. Thankfully I don't use that password anywhere else.
Vestal
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Mael said:
Seriously? Patch tuesday says hello. 90% of the consumer market puts a big bullseye right on your forehead.
Shall we forget when Vista was to be introduced how AV companies forced MS to pull one of the biggest security pieces in their software cause it would make alot of what AV companies make moot?
Troll? Ignore what he's pointing out? His post was made in general to no particular post (none indicated). So while I point out the idiocies of his post, you go on to point out that I didn't reply to an actual troll who has been called out a dozen times now? Really?Cruzader said:
Sorry for ignoring that there is a conspiracy of fanboys that are more than half of the outcry over Sony. I don't personally feel anything against Sony, but I'm not going to defend them nor attack the people who do feel that Sony let them down.
EDIT: Misread, thought you were calling me a troll. My post was a "pot calling the kettle black" post.
Metalmurphy
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I'm sure it was the same people working on both things.Jinfash said:
MoneyLaunderer
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X-Frame said:
I was actually thinking the exact same thing. Different password for everything and you wouldn't lose track of which is which.
Erm yes, of course. It's one thing to steal a single document or a single profile(as was noted by Rez when someone mentioned a single iTunes account being stolen) it's another to take their entire database. Secure networks aren't a single door that needs to be opened, they're a series of obstacles. It seems Sony didn't have a single obstacle this hacker couldn't overcome, that worries me. The other examples you mentioned, as long as you're dodging of the answer tells me what I think it does, did.Metalmurphy said:
I'm making perfect sense.
polyh3dron
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The neon people picture was supposed to be the reason he would never get banned. GAF lied.Jinfash said:I miss Wollan
Not really.
Metalmurphy
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Arnie said:
Yeah... and you know this how exactly?
And what exactly was the question? If their entire database was hacked? "Data was Compromised" was all they said. It is the Pentagon after all.
Your Full Name/Birth Records/Certificates/Address History/Birthdate/Etc are already on the internet and can be accessed if someone wants to $20. Have people never heard of premium people search companies/sites?Fatghost said:
From one aspect of their company. It's PSN/Qcity. It's not like they got the keys to everything Sony.Arnie said:
dreamer3kx
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I cant start changing passwords, I will no doubt forget them, Im just hoping nothing happens here.
Four_Chamber
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Fox News in on this piece too.... DAMN
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011...personal-information-compromised-hack-attack/
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011...personal-information-compromised-hack-attack/
Blaming Sony is like blaming Japan for what has happened / is happening in Fukushima. External factors have caused tons of problems, millions of people are affected but both Sony and Japan did anything and are doing everything to solve the problem or at least assure the safety of the people. Yes, PSN wasn't as secure as they thought it was and Japan could have known the nuclear facility was in a dangerous location as well.
PsychoJecht
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Arnie said:
This has not been confirmed.
Mr. Enigma
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Niks said:
No.
Dash Kappei
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Yeah, such strenght worked out so well for us, ain't it?FINALBOSS said:
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dreamer3kx said:
For those changing your passwords there's a neogaf forum for that:
Online Security |OT| Staying Safe on The Web
Metalmurphy
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SO WHAT? You don't know what the hacker did to get it. He could have gotten through tons of "obstacles" as you mentioned it. You're saying he basically just went in there, bruteforced a password and downloaded it or something.Arnie said:
YOU DON'T KNOW.
hey_it's_that_dog
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KingOfKong said:
It wouldn't be that interesting. You can always speculate that some small proportion of posters are motivated by whatever it is you think they're motivated by rather than good sense. It doesn't add anything. This thread is shitty enough already.
The point is, reasonable people can disagree on this matter. You don't have to be a Sony bootlicker or a lowlife hacker/thief to have a strong opinion on either side of this thing.
Personally, I'm disappointed in Sony's security and will be keeping an eye on my credit card activity. It took both a hacker and a security flaw to bring this situation about and I'm going to allocate blame accordingly (i.e. to both parties).
No, the servers are still down at the moment. They'll probably do some sort of system wide password reset when they bring it back online. If they don't, the account management site should let you change your password.Niks said:
DevilWillcry
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oh you! xDJerk said:You need a better one
GeekyDad
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Wow, man...Sony has basically confirmed the worst possible scenario here. There's no way I'd trust them with my credit card information in the future, and I'm guessing a lot of other folks are going to feel the exact same way. This mess will likely hit them very, very hard. Possibly one of the worst black eyes in gaming history. Definitely one of the worst financial disasters in gaming, at least as far as the end user is concerned.
sixteen-bit
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lol, same hereD23 said:
Neuromancer
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That's pretty badD23 said:
Papa Neuromancer hasn't checked in yet but I'm sure it's only a matter of time
God dammit Sony. I sold my PS3 six months ago and it comes back to bite me in the ass. This and Microsoft bullshitting me into an extra year of xbox live because of their stupid renewal canceling system has really made me hate online on these fucking consoles.
At least I still have PC
At least I still have PC
Vestal said:
A company that was unable to implement application isolation till not so long ago deserves what it gets.
It's their own fault if people managed to find exploits in their bug ridden mess.
Most of their problem shouldn't even have existed anyway.
At least they're better than Apple and their updates :lol
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Kagari said:
I'm kinda conflicted...
So does this mean that not a lot of CC info were retrieved but we have to assume the worst and change our passwords just to be safe or something?
Hazelhurst
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According to Sony:Absoludacrous said:
"When the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services are fully restored, we strongly recommend that you log on and change your password."
They're leaving it up to us to change our password.
Outtrigger888
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I never connected a CC to PSN and never will after this incident, I hope all your guy's info and CC information is safe for the sake of the hassle some might have to go through. Ill stick to buying playstation cards from here on out im sure most will do the same.
PsychoJecht
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Jinfash said:
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?
So why hasn't Sony sent emails to their customers yet?
A small software company, Ashampoo, was hacked recently. They even sent out emails, I bought some shitty software form them years ago and got this email from them:
But a fucking billion dollar company has zero communication with their customers.
A small software company, Ashampoo, was hacked recently. They even sent out emails, I bought some shitty software form them years ago and got this email from them:
But a fucking billion dollar company has zero communication with their customers.
That's the only aspect that matters to me, the consumer.mr_nothin said:
I don't want to know what the hacker did to get it, all I know is that is was sufficient.Metalmurphy said:
Look this is going nowhere, you're obviously just here to defend Sony no matter what, so a conclusion won't be reached. All I know is my(and 77 million others) personal information and credit card details could be in someone else's hands, something which has never happened to me before and you're trying to argue that Sony's network is as secure as anyone else's. Jesus.
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