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that's unfortunate. I did post earlier in the thread though that I bought from them within weeks after they resumed credit card orders.. and I was dinged for about $500 on my debit card from that whole thing. Sorry your lack of trust affects you like that (genuinely). But the fact is that most will end up like me and others. Shit happens, we get over it.gregor7777 said:
The only thing I want to point out though is that if you limit your business with places that never have security breaches, eventually you are going to run out of businesses to work with. And if you only limit it to ones that have had public security breaches, then you are tucking your head in the sand assuming that just because places don't go public that they are breach-free. this shit happens on a daily basis. Better to learn how to deal with it then shutting out the places it happens to.. because eventually it's going to happen to a place that you can't shut out (see the UK government or the VFW)
tinfoilhatman
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Sony you reep what you sow, had you just left Holtz alone this thread would never had existed.
Projectjustice
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Jburton said:
Im not, someone asked me a question and I answered it.
Rez said:
Well...people give out information under the assumption that it'll be secure.
I and others would have assumed Sony a safe keeper of that info. If a huge network like that is unsafe, I can see how it would raise questions in peoples' minds about safety in general (even if we suppose that this is a more peculiar brand of Sony incompetence).
Plus, handing out this info is actually unnecessary to use the network or buy from it (and others like it). So why give them that info? It's not that unreasonable a stance to take.
larvi said:
Like he says, it would technically put him in breach of their terms of service...but I don't think he or many others would care.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Rebel Leader said:
More like "from a GAF poster".
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=27432506&postcount=4551
npm0925 said:
Err....you're really grasping at straws. You put in the old number when you pay your current bills. Next time, put in the new number. It's the same exact process you do now. Unless you're actually one of those people who clicks "use the same card" no matter what. Besides it's not hard to type a 16 digit number. You life isn't that busy that you can't take 10-15 extra seconds to do that.
Sony shares down almost 3% already since the market opened:
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:SNE
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:SNE
Rebel Leader
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Seraphis Cain said:
my bad.. will delete post
Captain Tuttle
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Xbox.com--->My Xbox------>Accounts.bitoriginal said:
You can change your credit card info there too and remove your card. Not sure why everyone says that you have to call MS
This is for a US account though
CadetMahoney
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iNvidious01 said:
Your desperation is showing. PSN should be seen as secure like Live. The PR disaster is complete now though, I don't think whatever reassurances Sony gives in the aftermath will be good enough. . . promises promises.InsertNameHere said:
Ickman3400
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Rez said:
It never was. This was just the wake up call a lot of people needed.
bitoriginal
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Captain Tuttle said:
Ahh crap, I'm in the UK. I'll give it a go though and feedback if it's different. I do remember that I couldn't remove card details in the past though. Changing the password will be sufficient for the time being.
FunnyBunny
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This breach is one of the biggest in history, and people are fooling themselves if they think Sony needed nearly a week to figure out what data had been stolen. The fact is, Sony knew something was seriously wrong as soon as it shutdown PSN... which is why it pulled the plug in the first place.
Despite the claims of an earlier post, the first rule of PR is not to wait; it's to get ahead of the story. In this regard, Sony has failed miserably. It let PSN users rot on the vine for a week wondering what was wrong with nary a statement. Rumors personal data had been stolen swirled days ago and unfortunately turned out to be true.
This is a big hit to Sony's image and I expect mainstream news outlets to pick up the story in larger numbers today (considering Sony waited until after 6pm eastern to say anything yesterday).
Despite the claims of an earlier post, the first rule of PR is not to wait; it's to get ahead of the story. In this regard, Sony has failed miserably. It let PSN users rot on the vine for a week wondering what was wrong with nary a statement. Rumors personal data had been stolen swirled days ago and unfortunately turned out to be true.
This is a big hit to Sony's image and I expect mainstream news outlets to pick up the story in larger numbers today (considering Sony waited until after 6pm eastern to say anything yesterday).
CadetMahoney
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In the U.S. can you really remove your card from their system? I always thought you can only disable auto-renew but the card details stay somewhere on their servers/logs.Captain Tuttle said:
Interfectum
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ELPRESADOR is pissed. Wow. Losing his support is a deathblow to Sony.
Dark Machine
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aristotle said:
Or even do what I do and use copy-paste. >.>;
Didn't Amazon have something like this happen a while back too? I seem to remember that happening and being lucky that my card had expired.
Can't people pay bills with Direct Debit? Isn't that a whole ton faster?
cjtiger300
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Projectjustice said:
Your just trollin. Judging by your post history, you don't have a PS3 and will never have a PS3.
Projectjustice
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Jburton said:
Neither, I saw a post that need to be corrected and then someone asked me a question.
I truly feel bad for you guys. My brother is a huge PS3/PSN supporter and his pretty angry as well. He had to cancel his CC and had another one issued. Now he has to check to make sure no one opens a line of credit in his name in the next few months and always be wary of such actions.
bitoriginal said:
You need to go through Microsoft billing and you can only remove a card if there are a minumum of 2 cards associated to an account, wait till your new card comes put that on and delete the old blocked one.
Hopefully this forces Microsoft to allow people to add/delete cc's and Services from their billing accounts with ease.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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You have to call to disable auto-renew.CadetMahoney said:
Rebel Leader
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It still saysCaptain Tuttle said:
"This payment option cannot be removed at this time. Go to the Payment method information page to view services associated with this payment option. "
When I try to remove it
Jburton said:
The $350 price point is unofficial, but it's clearly being kicked around at Sony HQ.
At any rate, the point is, I stopped doing business with Monoprice once they got hacked and I had to screw around with Amex's fraud department because some asshole charged an airline ticket to the UAE. Then, having to change that card number on a number of bill payment services (including PSN, ironically), which is an even bigger pain in the ass.
This is not one of things things you just blow off and say, "Hey, I'm sure they learned their lesson, here's my new CC#!" and keep going. Having a credit card stolen is a major pain in the ass. Even worse, Sony stores enough info about you so that somebody could take that info and open new charge accounts in your name, essentially stealing your identity.
This is not a fun, breezy troll topic where I say that Black Ops has horrible AA on PS3, and 360 is the definitive platform. Then, you come back and say that the shadows on the 360 are shit, and the PS3's online is free so it's the better platform to buy the game on.
No, this is serious shit, and keeping your personal info away from Sony going forward is the prudent thing to do for at least the next year. And that precludes my purchase of a PSP2, plus any PSN games/DLC. I will do business with game merchants that actually spend money to secure their shit such as Valve, Microsoft, and Amazon.
electroshockwave
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Diablohead said:
Shopto sometimes have instant codes for a bit below their value so you don't have to wait for those to be sent out.
Speaking of Shopto, they had an issue with details being leaked a few years ago. I think they're still banned here because of it but they managed to restore confidence among most customers. PSN is almost certainly going to be more secure than before but I can understand people being cautious or changing their purchasing patterns.
Captain Tuttle
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Maybe you're right, I don't know. I never had a problem with having my card on there but I turned off auto renew and only get Live/points cards when they are on sale.CadetMahoney said:
Edit: It gives me the option to remove the card and when I click yes it says "Are you sure you want to remove this payment option for your Xbox Live account" Whether it actually removes it I don't know
aristotle said:
He may have auto payments tied to the card, I know I do. When I have to change my card, I need to go to several websites and and call quite a few customer service departments to get it changed. I takes a good 3 - 4 hours so it is inconvienent. But at least that can be changed unlike you name/address/DoB and other personal info that was compromised.
Dark Machine
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KAOz said:
Nothing here yet either. Already changed all my stuff and cancelled my card. Lucky I have cash out, with the royal wedding and May bank holiday the new card won't come till next Tuesday at the earliest.
Valkyr Junkie
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Quite possibly the dumbest addition to this thread.tinfoilhatman said:
Projectjustice
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cjtiger300 said:
Since when does it say that I have to own PS3/PSN to post in here?
bitoriginal
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So I try and change passwords for XBL on xbox.com but clicking 'change password' just seems to take me to my hotmail?
FunnyBunny said:
All true, but the media and people (humans by default) are fickle.
Once PSN is back up and running and a few days has passed after yesterdays announcement ...... users and the media will forget about it / stop caring.
The only people that will remember are hardcore gamers / forumites and fanboys who use such things as ammo to troll with.
DenogginizerOS
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I would think they could send a temporary password to the email address registered to the account. I would prefer this over racing to login at relaunch. Thinking about this, if Sony doesn't reset passwords, is it possible that the hackers could try to log in to all accounts the moment PSN is up and running?gofreak said:
FunnyBunny
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Have you ever had your ID stolen?aristotle said:
I have, and I wish the solution was as quick and painless as you suggest. It took me a full day to open a new bank account, change direct deposit, order new credit cards, file a fraud alert and change login information for dozens of websites.
MoneyLaunderer
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Rebel Leader said:
I had to call MS to remove it. And that was back in January of this year. There is no way to remove it from their website anymore since the redesign. And it took 25 minutes to get auto-renew shut off and my CC removed. Pain in the ass.
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