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Re-posting the .gifs from last night because of the annoyance of having to call my bank to get a new bank card. Bite me Sony.
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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... Yes? They DO have all info. Credit card block/renewal is the first thing you should do, followed by password change.eravulgaris said:
MoneyLaunderer
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I keep seeing people talk about how they're pissed Sony didn't come out day one and say info was stolen. Did these people read where Sony learned there was a breach, shut the servers down when they learned of the breach, _investigated_ the breach with an outside agency to determine what happened, then released what they learned when they learned it? I'm not mad at Sony for taking 7 days to say what happened because they wanted to be sure of what happened and not jump to conclusions. Why would they come out and say people's info got stolen if they weren't sure? That would piss people off just as much by having them unnecessarily change account info/CC info. IMO, Sony took the right steps in determining what happened and then releasing that info to their customers. If they jumped the gun it could have been worse.
eravulgaris said:
I asked for my number to be changed, but maybe I am paranoid
The bank knew about the problem. They weren't explicitly advising people to change their numbers, they said that based on the info they had their security department would be monitoring for suspicious activity closely and informing anyone affected. But they were happy to issue me with a new number.
I know another bank here though that is advising cards to be changed.
LiquidMetal14
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My current card is all janky from trying to unlock my house so I'm ordering a new one!
cjtiger300
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Yeah, evidently may have = does have to games.:/eravulgaris said:
Psychotext
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Do you have any idea what happened with Sony's encryption key system? They made a mistake so basic (not using random numbers) that I would have been surprised to have seen a first year computer security student make it, let alone an expert.cjtiger300 said:
Yeah, my debit card is linked to my PSN account. Nothing crazy so far and I am not terminating it just yet; daily monitoring between my wife and I(especially wifey; she is like a hawk with our account) should be sufficient for now. I do feel let down with how Sony went about letting people know but I am not going to just give up on the system - that is just ridiculous.
ThingontheFloor
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Anyone brave enough to either keep their credit card on their system or add a new one once this is back up and running? I think Ill strictly be a retail store card kind of guy after this point, I dont think any amount of promises could build my confidence back up enough.
npm0925 said:
No need for a credit card for online/multiplayer.
The same people who played online using PSN last week, will nearly all be back playing next week.
A lot of people in this thread need to take a step back, calm down, forget about the trendy hate and if they are unsure of security in relation to PSN to just use PSN cards.
Simple.
don't know which is more fun... removing a cc from xbl, or un-nuking your account after XBL fails to renew your Gold membership when you want to drop down to Silver......snap0212 said:
and to those saying "well, I was going to buy game A on PS3 but now I'll buy it on 360".... smh... I mean I suppose if you REALLY WANT TO take it online THIS week hell or highwater... but if you let this event shape the console for which you buy multi-platofrm games on now... that is just overreactionary and uninformed.
every single PR firm in the world will tell you the EXACT opposite of what you just said, and frankly as it's their jobs, they're right and you are wrong.Havok said:
what sony did is practically by the book. release the exact information as soon as you get it.
"service is down to an external intrusion"
6 days later the security audit tells them what may have been accessed
"this is what may have been accessed"
In most cases you get what you give 10 times over. If you give misinformation or baseless information, you get back 10 times as much information and baseless information. They waited until they had specifics. Oh, and of course shut PSN down immediately. You guys who are saying sony should have said this a week ago are just wrong. Had they said it then the panic would have been even greater (because they couldn't release the specifics they did now, only "some information might have been stolen") leading to people speculating even MORE misinformation and FUD.. you think this will be hard to recover from, whatever would have happened then would have been even worse.
about the only one who would be right to be pissed is if someone actually had something happen to them in these 6 days. yeah, that I can see being pissed about. but if you change your passwords today vs. changing them 6 days ago... it doesn't really matter.
Version 3.0
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neorej said:
It's not just a matter of persistence on one side. It's a matter of diligence on the other. Yes, a lock can be picked. So can several locks. But maybe not while they're being watched as well.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Leads? Yeah, sure. I'll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they've got four more detectives working on the case. They got us working in shifts! :loljmdajr said:
Leads! :lol
cjtiger300
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The majority of people will just be happy psn is back up and it will be business as usual. That's just the truth. The second a map pack for COD comes out, millions of people will put in the cc info and not even think about this. Memories are short these days you know.npm0925 said:
fistwell_old
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Thought it was the brother?Jburton said:
electroshockwave
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LordPhoque said:
Considering your posting history I somehow doubt you were getting MK on PS3 or at any point not going to renew your XBL subscription.
Keep on
eravulgaris said:
The stolen credit card info is my least concern, that is easily changed as are passwords. What's more of a problem is my name, address, DoB, security question and answer(mother's maiden name in my case), and email address that's been compromised. I can't change that most of that and with that much info someone could pretend they are me and call customer for another account I have and get them to reset the password for them to be able to access the account.
Seraphinianus
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cjtiger300 said:
Corporations are notorious for minimizing. May have may = we haven't finished our research yet, but we're preparing people for something bad.
I don't know what the deal is, but it's not like it's a problem to replace a card. I don't get why people are so concerned that other people want new cards...it'll either be the smart thing to do in retrospect or nothing at all. It's not like your credit score gets dinged.
MoneyLaunderer
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darkwing said:
I would, because that company would learn from their mistakes and take the proper precautions to prevent a hack from happening again. I'm not going to let this ruin my image of Sony, considering they are a victim in this as well IMO. Things get hacked. It was just Sony's turn to deal with the shitstorm.
Projectjustice
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Dead Man said:
Ive had CC details with MS for 8 years and never had a problem.
Rebel Leader
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*an certain amount of time after*djtiesto said:
Holy shit, this sucks... time to cancel my debit/ATM card. Will never complain about not paying for PSN again..
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Fucking A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9CynvMlFyojmdajr said:
dude said:
Sorry but I can't believe you actually believe this. Banks are insured for your money. Let the robbers take what they want. The govt. insures you deposits. Anything that is stolen from your account is returned to you up to a large sum (most FDIC banks are insured up to 150k for each account-maybe more).
Same with credit cards and debit cards. People who are only now watching their statements and cards are seriously behind the times and just asking for problems. I would be surprised if these people who are just noticing weird activity supposedly (if real) haven't had this happen for a long time. In-person card scanners are easy to use and are abundant.
I have always checked my accounts daily. It takes a 5 minute phone call (most of the time) to put a stop payment on any account you hold. If you have really have so little faith in your bank or card holders, then you really need to change what institution you do business with.
This hasn't really affected me yet (hopefully never), but I check my statements more than once a day since this happened. More than likely I'll ask for a new card and be done with it. Changing numbers is simple & easy and has no ill-effect on you or your account. People are seriously going off the deep end with this. Be rational for once, even if this is GAF.
MoneyLaunderer
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shagg_187 said:
At least the Creedence was still there...
cjtiger300
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Do I really need to put up a list of Huge companies that have had data leaks and are still around and just as strong as before? I would be willing to bet you still do business with some of them.darkwing said:
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