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PSP Go? 249.99!!!!

With graphics capabilities like DOT3 per-pixel lighting and video capabilities like 640x480 playback on devices like the X50v, PSP never had cutting-edge technology, and the 2008 launch of SCH powered MIDs/PCs and of OMAP3 devices leaves PSP's tech far behind.
 
Lazy8s said:
With graphics capabilities like DOT3 per-pixel lighting and video capabilities like 640x480 playback on devices like the X50v, PSP never had cutting-edge technology, and the 2008 launch of SCH powered MIDs/PCs and of OMAP3 devices leaves PSP's tech far behind.
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Yeah, a part of me wishes that the PSP got a graphics upgrade.

After all, the aliasing in some games are just terrible.
 
Am I missing something? What is the point of the PSP Go? I still have my original PSP, and I play it (and my DS) often, but I don't know what I'm missing with this Go, esp at the crazy price.
 
Lazy8s said:
With graphics capabilities like DOT3 per-pixel lighting and video capabilities like 640x480 playback on devices like the X50v, PSP never had cutting-edge technology, and the 2008 launch of SCH powered MIDs/PCs and of OMAP3 devices leaves PSP's tech far behind.
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If cutting edge meant a ~$500 device like the x50v back in 2004 monies, that's just stupid.
 
Sony had absolutely no excuse for badly aliased graphics. Handhelds are viewed from a much closer distance than TVs/monitors, so the quality of each pixel is that much more important.

Cellphones with GPUs an entire order of magnitude smaller than the PSP's actually had better anti-aliasing capabilities. The PSP is even loaded with fillrate, yet it can't make good use of it for AA due to other design oversights and shortcomings.
 
commish said:
Am I missing something? What is the point of the PSP Go? I still have my original PSP, and I play it (and my DS) often, but I don't know what I'm missing with this Go, esp at the crazy price.
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It's not for you. They are trying to sell PSP's to people who don't already own one.
 
PSP's hardware price is subsidized by high software margins and royalties. Price can't be directly compared between it and a device like the X50v which is sold for a profit and in smaller quantities.

Besides, the PSP's GPU is a whole ten times more costly than the X50v's in silicon on a 90nm process.
 
xs_mini_neo said:
IT FEELS SO EPIC AND HARDCORE WHEN THEY RAISE THE PRICE

The PSP Reboot A-Go-Go! Project is a waste of money and time thanks to this. Learn something from your mistakes, Sony. LOWER prices, don't RAISE them! Jesus. The economy is fucked and they drop another price bomb.
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PSP Go is still cheaper than a drinking problem.
 
Lazy8s said:
PSP's hardware price is subsidized by high software margins and royalties. Price can't be directly compared between it and a device like the X50v which is sold for a profit and in smaller quantities.

Besides, the PSP's GPU is a whole ten times more costly than the X50v's in silicon on a 90nm process.
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The PSP has sold for a profit since the transition to the Slim, before taking software and royalties into consideration.
 
Lazy8s said:
Sony had absolutely no excuse for badly aliased graphics. Handhelds are viewed from a much closer distance than TVs/monitors, so the quality of each pixel is that much more important.

Cellphones with GPUs an entire order of magnitude smaller than the PSP's actually had better anti-aliasing capabilities. The PSP is even loaded with fillrate, yet it can't make good use of it for AA due to other design oversights and shortcomings.
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Yeah, you would think that a smaller screen would make it easier to have anti-aliasing, but it is not the case.

Oh well, I still love my (flawed) PSP console. After all, games like Crisis Core and God of War didn't even touch the PSP's graphics possibilities.
 
commish said:
Am I missing something? What is the point of the PSP Go? I still have my original PSP, and I play it (and my DS) often, but I don't know what I'm missing with this Go, esp at the crazy price.
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It's for people who don't care about UMDs and also want a smaller sized system. It is nearly half as small as the PSP 3000, which for some people out there, it's an attractive feature.
 
Mutanthands said:
The PSP has sold for a profit since the transition to the Slim, before taking software and royalties into consideration.
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Bingo. It's a non-issue at this point, heck the PSP was starting to make Sony money back with the original 1000!
 
Lazy8s said:
Sony had absolutely no excuse for badly aliased graphics.
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Except whatever excuse it was that led to aliased graphics...when you're trying to sound smarter than everyone else, don't make silly statements like this.
 
HomerSimpson-Man said:
Bingo. It's a non-issue at this point, heck the PSP was starting to make Sony money back with the original 1000!
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You mean including R&D or just covering price of hardware?
 
Hubris to ignore the proficiency of a PowerVR TBDR in favor of brute forcing their own design is not excusable.

Considering the PSP2 platform's design, even they figured this out.
 
Hubris could be very well the excuse! Whatever the excuse, I suppose it goes double for Nintendo.
two screens, geddit?
 
outunderthestars said:
It's not for you. They are trying to sell PSP's to people who don't already own one.
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They're doing a shit job of it. If you haven't picked one up yet because there aren't any games you want for it there really isn't anything in the pipeline that's going to change your mind. (Especially since if someone hasn't picked up a PSP because there aren't enough games for it they clearly have shit taste.) And if you haven't picked one up yet because of the price, well...
 
Price is a little steep. I will buy it if I can afford it at the time it releases. Is there a EU release window yet?


Hcoregamer00 said:
Yeah, you would think that a smaller screen would make it easier to have anti-aliasing, but it is not the case.

Oh well, I still love my (flawed) PSP console. After all, games like Crisis Core and God of War didn't even touch the PSP's graphics possibilities.
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Yeah, I thought Crisis Core looked awesome. I'm certainly no graphics whore but I do hope that Nomura really pulls through with the graphics for KH: BBS. :D
 
Lightning said:
Price is a little steep. I will buy it if I can afford it at the time it releases. Is there a EU release window yet?
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I think the October 1st date referred to both US and EU markets.

Japan is getting it in November for sure. For once, they have to wait for a Sony product.
 
http://gizmodo.com/5278909/sony-to-offer-new-digital-copies-of-your-old-umd-games

So what will happen to all of your old UMD games if you buy a PSP Go? You'll be able to procure digital copies of those discs, maybe even for free.

I asked Sony's John Koller, Director of Hardware Marketing for Sony, what the company planned to do for their most loyal fanbase—those who'd amassed a large collection of UMDs but who'd also like to play these games on the Go. His response:

We're in the midst of putting together a good will program. We'll be unveiling that soon [because] we actually think there's a significant group that will be upgrading from the 1000...In the past, we've seen a 20-25% trade-up factor, and I assume that's going to be the case here. We've modeled that. So we're looking at a good-will program—a short term good-will program that would continue for years afterward."
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Short-term for years afterward? In other words, the program itself will last for years, but these digital game copies will be tied to either when you bought the UMD or the PSP Go—such specifics were not made clear.

Speaking more regarding the technical aspects of the good will program, Koller explained while the distribution model was still in the planning stages, the user's experience would be similar to Portable Copy—a way in which Blu-ray movies can be ripped and converted from the PS3 to the PSP. However, Koller assured me that users would not be ripping their UMDs. Instead, it sounds like Sony will use a PSN-based digital distribution model will "encourage" users to sign up for the service.

But the neatest thing about Koller's Portable Copy comparison? Portable Copy is free. So we're doubting that Sony will charge for the service—though we have no confirmation. Unfortunately, Koller also slipped in that Sony's "looking at what kind of games will be offered." In other words, Sony's good-will program will probably not apply to every title in the PSP's library, but given that there are only a few that matter anyway, maybe this limitation isn't such a big deal.
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I forgot who, but someone in one of the PSP Go threads suggested such an idea, and look at that, they were already thinking about it (or were they?) :D

damn search
 
At first I didn't think the price was that big a deal, until I remembered that a regular PSP is significantly less and has a UMD slot to boot. Sony wants to push this as an ipod shuffle-like option, but they're going about it all wrong. Looking back to my days at Best Buy I can tell you selling these things is gonna be a supreme headache.

"Why's this one so much more expensive"
"Well um it doesn't play game discs"
"Shouldn't it be cheaper than"
"Well it has more memory"
"That's it, why is this one almost $100 cheaper"
"I don't know"
 
outunderthestars said:
White PSP confirmed for launch.

Sony priced the PSPGo higher to build in a profit margin for retail.

No external battery was an anti-piracy consideration


http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/...-distribution-with-sony-plays-with-psp-go.ars
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great article. While I agree that the $250 price tag is about $50 more than it needs to be, Sony needed to sweeten the pot for retailers to jump on board and offer them a larger margain. It's a business decision, unfortunately. Still, I'm preordering as soon as the white one goes up on Amazon. This will be my only system, so $250 is still fine for me. My dollars aren't being fought over among multiple systems.
 
Due to the lack of mini-USB port, your PSP 3000 accessories cannot be used on the PSP GO. I am talking about things like component A/V cables, voice headsets, GPS module etc
 
Maybe a stupid question by me, but here it is anyways.

I have owned 2 PSPs before but sold them (didn't own them at the same time) due to the lack of games that I actually wanted to play as well as the size of the thing. Now that games like Crisis Core and God of War is on the PSP and the smaller console is coming I am starting to get interested again. But then we have the trouble of no UMD slot. Will I be able to play these games on the PSP Go somehow or will I loose out on these "old" games?

Thanks beforehand for the information.
 
xfactor said:
Due to the lack of mini-USB port, your PSP 3000 accessories cannot be used on the PSP GO. I am talking about things like component A/V cables, voice headsets, GPS module etc
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Most of those aren't via the usb port, but the headphone port seems to have been homogenised too, so yeah.
 
Rimshot said:
Maybe a stupid question by me, but here it is anyways.

I have owned 2 PSPs before but sold them (didn't own them at the same time) due to the lack of games that I actually wanted to play as well as the size of the thing. Now that games like Crisis Core and God of War is on the PSP and the smaller console is coming I am starting to get interested again. But then we have the trouble of no UMD slot. Will I be able to play these games on the PSP Go somehow or will I loose out on these "old" games?

Thanks beforehand for the information.
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They have already stated that there will be around 300 titles available at launch
 
commish said:
Am I missing something? What is the point of the PSP Go? I still have my original PSP, and I play it (and my DS) often, but I don't know what I'm missing with this Go, esp at the crazy price.
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Nearly 1/2 the size and weight of the 3000 with 16gb of memory, integrated microphone, Bluetooth support, in game XMB and improved control inputs.
 
The price in the UK has made this so unattractive for me now. £220 roundly calculates to about $400 or so, it's a disgrace, but since there is now disc, I'll just import it
 
xfactor said:
Due to the lack of mini-USB port, your PSP 3000 accessories cannot be used on the PSP GO. I am talking about things like component A/V cables, voice headsets, GPS module etc
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How is USB not being supported, considering that each unit has a USB cable packed in?

How else will we be able to connect to PS3 and PCs?
 
winjet81 said:
How is USB not being supported, considering that each unit has a USB cable packed in?

How else will we be able to connect to PS3 and PCs?
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But connector in PSP Go isn't mini-usb, it's some internal something.
 
So hang on, no UMD drive, quite possibly smaller more efficiently manufactured parts and the battery life still winds up being 5-6hrs? Number 1 issue with the PSP still not addressed in this new model.

Hmmm interest level on the way down methinks
 
Pallaris said:
So hang on, no UMD drive, quite possibly smaller more efficiently manufactured parts and the battery life still winds up being 5-6hrs? Number 1 issue with the PSP still not addressed in this new model.

Hmmm interest level on the way down methinks
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50% lighter means smaller battery.
 
Darkpen said:
http://gizmodo.com/5278909/sony-to-offer-new-digital-copies-of-your-old-umd-games



I forgot who, but someone in one of the PSP Go threads suggested such an idea, and look at that, they were already thinking about it (or were they?) :D

damn search
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If you’re wondering whether this is a gaf->internet->gaf situation, I’d suspect no.

I along with several others proposed it as a solution. We however didn’t just pull it out of thin air. Besides quite frankly being logical, there is actually a fair amount of precedence for such a program in the media industry (red2blu being the most recent example).



Alphahawk said:
At first I didn't think the price was that big a deal, until I remembered that a regular PSP is significantly less and has a UMD slot to boot. Sony wants to push this as an ipod shuffle-like option, but they're going about it all wrong. Looking back to my days at Best Buy I can tell you selling these things is gonna be a supreme headache.

"Why's this one so much more expensive"
"Well um it doesn't play game discs"
"Shouldn't it be cheaper than"
"Well it has more memory"
"That's it, why is this one almost $100 cheaper"
"I don't know"
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You act like size, style, and form-factor have no impact on purchases. We're talking about portable electronics here. If anything, it's the market segment that weighs those factors the highest.
 
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