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[Mareg]

They really stuck with Wireless B !!! Woah, this must be the single piece of hardware left using this obsolete standard in years.
Good god, I though about getting a PSP-Go to get a better experience of playing the PS1 game remotely with the PSP. Guess that defeats any chance of smoothing that out.

 

[McHuj]

I'm really interested in the battery life of this model. I wonder if they shrank the process technology to something like 45nm for the processor, that would certainly improve batter life.

Even if they don't sell many of these, each one they do, I bet gives them a very high profit margin.

 

[CartridgeBlower]

Man, I was excited to get one of these, but now I don't know.

Did they really say you won't have access to past games that aren't available digitally? I thought they were working on a way to get their whole library online when this thing launched.

And a smaller screen and old wireless? Surprising to say the least.

What's the advantage to getting this one over the 3000? Doesn't seem like there's any.

 

[Cruzader]

God I wish we had more details!!! Will it have a separate FW than 3000? What are all the inputs/outputs?? I feel like Sony is not pushing this thing. I want to know to make my damn mind. At this point, im still buying but sucks to hear b wifi instead of g...also will Sony improve PSN integration(heard trophy message pops up in one of the PSPgo trailers) Fuck. I need info!

 

[ccbfan]

Seem like Sony's going the Apple root and make a lot of profit off hardware.

I mean we known that the PSP been making profit before the 2000.

Now with 2 revisions and 2 years of cheapening of technology. The PSP 3000 probably cost like less than 100 bucks.

now - the UMD drive and add

1. 16 gig flash drive for a company that makes their own flash cards (You can buy a 16 gig sd card for 30 bucks, now think how much it cost to make.)
2. blue tooth

and smaller screen and add some moving parts.

So you're probably talking like over 50 percent profit here with a 250 price tag.

 

[Byakuya769]

Whats the point of having the thing slide closed if you cant access ANYTHING when it's closed.

Touch screen would do wonders for it's media functions when it's closed.

Exactly! And how capable is the psp at managing playlist and CD sorting? I just don't understand how people are trying to claim that the only thing the touch has going for it is a touch screen...

... my man.

 

[jrricky]

No, Sony, just no...

 

[Iron_Scimitar]

...keyboard cat....

 

[Tellaerin]

For $250, it's more like the PSP GTFO.

 

[donkey show]

Tried this out at E3 today with Gran Turismo, LBP, and Motorstorm. Wow, it feels so much better than the 3000/2000 etc. It feels a lot more natural in your hands aside from the weight loss. The d-pad is nice and clicky, plus the analog nub does not feel out of place. They've really improved the feel of the portable and I want to jack one from the booth tomorrow. :lol

 

[NomarTyme]

Tried this out at E3 today with Gran Turismo, LBP, and Motorstorm. Wow, it feels so much better than the 3000/2000 etc. It feels a lot more natural in your hands aside from the weight loss. The d-pad is nice and clicky, plus the analog nub does not feel out of place. They've really improved the feel of the portable and I want to jack one from the booth tomorrow. :lol

...my man. The L/R button feel good?

 

[Hcoregamer00]

Damn, why didn't they make it touchscreen for PSP media and 802.11g?

It takes away what positive improvements the PSP could have had for the 4th iteration of the PSP platform.

 

[donkey show]

...my man. The L/R button feel good?

Solid. It really is a premium version of the PSP.

 

[aoi tsuki]

Tried this out at E3 today with Gran Turismo, LBP, and Motorstorm. Wow, it feels so much better than the 3000/2000 etc. It feels a lot more natural in your hands aside from the weight loss. The d-pad is nice and clicky, plus the analog nub does not feel out of place. They've really improved the feel of the portable and I want to jack one from the booth tomorrow. :lol

Thanks for the impressions. i'll have to read a little more on how it feels in your hands but i'm pretty sure i'll pull the trigger and preorder one when the preorders open up. Worse comes to worse, i can always get the money back.

i have to say though, i'm shocked at the 802.11b also. Old tech on a new device is a Nintendo move, and even they went with 802.11g on the DSi.

so it has tv output? i hope old connections work for PSPgo

According to the PR, they don't.

 

[Tobor]

Solid. It really is a premium version of the PSP.

Thumbs up, fuck the haters!

 

[nyong]

Better controls? I'm completely sold.

 

[BeEatNU]

They didn't add ANYTHING that makes up for the REMOVAL of playing the existing physical media plus the extra $90 upcharge

Smaller screen
No access to exisiting library
pointless slide functin (if you cant do anything with the screen with it closed, it IS worthless)

Honestly, you're getting the better deal by buying a PSP 3000 bundle and adding your own 16 gb stick.

you don't even know (bolded) of thats for sure, check what I posted earlier from sone of the higher ups I spoke to. nothing confirmational but still.

I rather not deal with trying to hack my psp-3000 to load ISO especially when it didn't happen yet. or lug around that flimsy ass UMD disc that breaks.

just saying we all got opinions

 

[thaOwner]

Solid. It really is a premium version of the PSP.

Man, Was hoping this would be about $200 but $249 is a bit steep. This wont be day 1 but its definitely getting picked up in the first week.

 

[KTallguy]

i have to say though, i'm shocked at the 802.11b also. Old tech on a new device is a Nintendo move, and even they went with 802.11g on the DSi.

Nintendo IS making money :lol
Sony wants to go that route too, maybe

I will most likely get this, but I want to hear their solution for UMDs first.

 

[Blueblur1]

The funny thing is that when a kid or your average tween sees that price they're going to start looking at the alternatives. A price conscious consumer will likely pick up a new PSP-3000 instead of a Go just because of the price.

Or more likely, a used PSP with the hope that they can get custom firmware for it. Plenty of early adopters will buy it but not most average consumers. I can't wait for the retail stories thread this fall. I bet there will be at least a few PSP Go returns once people - typical parents, grandparents and uncles - figure out the DD scenario.

 

[Tobor]

802.11b is the only flaw in an otherwise perfect package. Go is still the definitive PSP. Shit, I have no problems with paying a premium to ditch that ridiculous UMD drive and get a superior screen.

 

[larvi]

Seem like Sony's going the Apple root and make a lot of profit off hardware.

Exactly. Sony knows they have a built in fan base that will pay a premium price to have the latest gadgets from them. I fully expect it to quickly drop in price once all of the early adopters pick one up.

 

[Tobor]

The funny thing is that when a kid or your average tween sees that price they're going to start looking at the alternatives. A price conscious consumer will likely pick up a new PSP-3000 instead of a Go just because of the price.

Or more likely, a used PSP with the hope that they can get custom firmware for it. Plenty of early adopters will buy it but not most average consumers. I can't wait for the retail stories thread this fall. I bet there will be at least a few PSP Go returns once people - typical parents, grandparents and uncles - figure out the DD scenario.

Sony is aiming this at adults with money. They're on record stating they want to break out of the tween market.

 

[spwolf]

The Palm Pre, at $50 more than the PSP go, includes R&D for an entirely new platform (PSP Go will be reusing a ton of tech already covered under the existing PSP R&D), a touchscreen, a three megapixel camera, superior WiFi connectivity (g vs b), built-in GPS, everything inherent in being a cellphone, and proximity detectors and accelerometers. It sacrifices 8GB of storage.

That comparison doesn't really make me feel like Sony couldn't have somehow squeezed a touchscreen into the budget. (And, yeah, cell phone contracts, but--the only way you're getting a game on the PSP Go is downloading from Sony, so they've got a long-term income plan.)

no, it costs $150 more than PSP Go to Sprint, and it costs something like $600 without contract. And plus it has smaller screen, and cant play games of this quality.

Apples to Apples, its $600 vs $250. Exactly my point.

 

[Outcast2004]

you don't even know (bolded) of thats for sure, check what I posted earlier from sone of the higher ups I spoke to. nothing confirmational but still.

I rather not deal with trying to hack my psp-3000 to load ISO especially when it didn't happen yet. or lug around that flimsy ass UMD disc that breaks.

just saying we all got opinions

Sure I do.... there's no UMD slot..... so I cant go to the store and buy a game and pop it in. Yes, I'm well aware all online, blah blah. I'm not a fan of all digital distribution. To me I can't place a value on something I cant feel in my hands. You know damn well they are going to charge full retail price for the downloadable titles.. which is a ripoff.

By them redesigning the unit, yet eliminating the media slot, they are just shooting themselves in the foot and severely limiting the market for the device.

The PSP could already do all the stuff they are doing with the GO.... so what's the point of removing the media, yet jacking the fuck out of the price? There's no justification for it.

 

[rollingstart]

Tried this out at E3 today with Gran Turismo, LBP, and Motorstorm. Wow, it feels so much better than the 3000/2000 etc. It feels a lot more natural in your hands aside from the weight loss. The d-pad is nice and clicky, plus the analog nub does not feel out of place. They've really improved the feel of the portable and I want to jack one from the booth tomorrow. :lol

how about the screen?

I can see myself buying this if the screen is perfect (no ghosting or interlacing-like problems) and there is a way to play old UMD games.

 

[KTallguy]

how about the screen?

I can see myself buying this if the screen is perfect (no ghosting or interlacing-like problems) and there is a way to play old UMD games.

Yes please let's hear screen impressions!

 

[knicks]

Sure I do.... there's no UMD slot..... so I cant go to the store and buy a game and pop it in. Yes, I'm well aware all online, blah blah. I'm not a fan of all digital distribution. To me I can't place a value on something I cant feel in my hands. You know damn well they are going to charge full retail price for the downloadable titles.. which is a ripoff.

By them redesigning the unit, yet eliminating the media slot, they are just shooting themselves in the foot and severely limiting the market for the device.

The PSP could already do all the stuff they are doing with the GO.... so what's the point of removing the media, yet jacking the fuck out of the price? There's no justification for it.

This.

Yes, it is more convenient to have everything virtually on the system instead of having to physically carry games around but $250 worthy? Bit much.

Also fear that the weight in this might be to light. Kinda preferred the original PSP's weight.

 

[RuneFactoryFanboy]

Tried this out at E3 today with Gran Turismo, LBP, and Motorstorm. Wow, it feels so much better than the 3000/2000 etc. It feels a lot more natural in your hands aside from the weight loss. The d-pad is nice and clicky, plus the analog nub does not feel out of place. They've really improved the feel of the portable and I want to jack one from the booth tomorrow. :lol

Thank you for the impressions, I would love to hear more. Question for you, after the annoucement/leak of the Go! I was curious about how it would feel in my hands so I found someone with a sliding phone. When I slid the phone up and tried to wrap my fingers where the L&R buttons would be I kept hitting the back of the screen and I found it tough to hold without being able to "wrap" my fingers around the top edge/lip. Was that an issue while using the Go!?

$250 is the killer here. I was ready to bite at $200. I can totally see their corperate reasoning. 16GB iPods cost even more.

It's all dependant on how much I could sell my 3000 for and my 4 games (assuming there is no way to transfer UMD's on it).

 

[mattiewheels]

PSP Go? 249.99!!!!

title should read 'PSP Go! 249.99????'

 

[Tellaerin]

Sony is aiming this at adults with money. They're on record stating they want to break out of the tween market.

You mean adults with too much money and no common sense. Specifically, ones who are willing to spend more money for 'features' like removing hardware.

I'm sorry, Tobor, but telling everyone how happy you are to pay more for this because you hate UMD's, and how you're willing to pay a premium for the added 'ability' of not being able to use them, doesn't exactly paint you as a discriminating consumer. The smaller form factor is admittedly nice, but there is no reason for the Go! to retail for more than the 3000.

 

[Belgand]

On the plus side, I may finally bite for the old PSP once it's price tanks. I've had my eye on a couple of games for a long time.

Agreed. There are some good looking games out there and a lot of nice RPG remakes and such. I just have absolutely no interest in a device that doesn't use physical media and the sliding is just silly.

Then again I thought the DSi looked like a bad idea. A camera?!? Oh, well, as long as you're getting rid of the GBA slot as well....

 

[donkey show]

how about the screen?

I can see myself buying this if the screen is perfect (no ghosting or interlacing-like problems) and there is a way to play old UMD games.

From what I was told, they are looking into ways to getting your UMDs hooked up to your PSP Go. Nothing is finalized yet. As for the screen, I think it looked better than the 3000. It was kinda dark at the booth, but I thought the contrast was much better than the 3000s next to it. Ghosting wasn't much of an issue when playing Motorstorm and Gran Turismo. Didn't notice it like in the 2000s.

Here's a vid I took of me playing the PSP Go with LBP. A shitty vid, but whatever. The HD feed should come up later since I just uploaded it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuxKOl5xnWk

 

[Dead Prince]

what are the full specs? i just scanned and saw Wireless B ;( wtf.
you think with a digital only system they would utilize at least G.

 

[SabinFigaro]

Hmmm... I'm not entirely sold, but I will consider a purchase as more information and videos are released. I have yet to buy a PSP, and I might go for the 3000 instead.

 

[UntoldDreams]

Actually...

The biggest PSP announcement to me was not this new hardware.
Its that all "going forward" titles will be dual distribution with UMD and Download.

That's huge actually as it means a solid focus on the PSN Store for PSP with Movies & Games.

That applies to all existing PSP owners.

 

[Diatribe1974]

Didn't Sony already learn that unless your handheld is in the 149-199 price range, people WON'T BUY IT? Facts are facts: They only started selling the PSP in nice numbers each month the moment it hit the 149-199$ area. Before that? No one really thought twice about it.

 

[BobJustBob]

You mean adults with too much money and no common sense. Specifically, ones who are willing to spend more money for 'features' like removing hardware.

I'm sorry, Tobor, but telling everyone how happy you are to pay more for this because you hate UMD's, and how you're willing to pay a premium for the added 'ability' of not being able to use them, doesn't exactly paint you as a discriminating consumer. The smaller form factor is admittedly nice, but there is no reason for the Go! to retail for more than the 3000.

UMDs are the single worst thing about the old PSP. They bulk up the form factor, reduce the battery life, and increase the load times. Fuck yeah I'll pay a premium to be rid of them.

What they really need to say is exactly how many old games are going to be newly available for download. If I can't buy Patapon 1 (2 is already on there), LocoRoco 1 and 2, Lumines 1 and 2, MG Acid 1 and 2, and Riviera and Yggdra Union, then I am going to have second thoughts.

Otherwise this is by far the best PSP yet and the price is fine and I want one.

 

[donkey show]

Otherwise this is by far the best PSP yet and the price is fine and I want one.

Those who haven't played it will say otherwise, but you're right from what I've experienced earlier today. It feels way more solid structurally on top improved buttons, etc.

Is it worth $250... when you put it against the price point of the 3000, maybe not from a financial standpoint. Yet like I said earlier, this really is the "premium PSP" in all aspects.

 

[iammeiam]

no, it costs $150 more than PSP Go to Sprint, and it costs something like $600 without contract. And plus it has smaller screen, and cant play games of this quality.

Apples to Apples, its $600 vs $250. Exactly my point.

Wait, what? Discussing the financial feasibility of a touchscreen in the Go, you gave a price of $300 for the Pre with a build cost of $170, citing a $130 between cost and price, which doesn't match anything above, for comparison to the Go's $250. I googled for specs to compare, but kind of ran with the pricing as was quoted. Ultimately the end-user price ends up not mattering because: The Pre has a whole lot more expensive tech and R&D time dumped into it than the Go; if one of those costs $170 to make, there is no way a touchscreen was financially impossible on the PSP Go.

No comparison between a PSP and a touchscreen cellphone at this point gets to be called apples to apples; it's more like bananas to cucumbers. There's a slight form-factor similarity, but that's about it. Nobody is buying any PSP to make phone calls, much like the Pre isn't going to be snapped up by people dying for cutting-edge handheld gaming. The only thing that actually has a featureset anywhere near, with similar UI constraints, is the original PSP, but that gets us back to the incremental costs between producing units and whether or not adding a touchscreen would ruin Sony's profit margin.

Ultimately all I really think is: The hardware components cost with a touch screen wouldn't drive the per-unit sales of the Go into the red, and given that they're intentionally setting themselves up for a comparison to a device whose entire point is the touchscreen, the benefits reaped would have been better in the long term for their bottom line. I totally get that there is a market segment willing to spend $250 on this thing; I just think the lack of a touchscreen is going to restrict that market largely to preexisting gamers, when their whole goal is to get adults with disposable income to buy into the new structure and expand the market.

 

[NomarTyme]

Didn't Sony already learn that unless your handheld is in the 149-199 price range, people WON'T BUY IT? Facts are facts: They only started selling the PSP in nice numbers each month the moment it hit the 149-199$ area. Before that? No one really thought twice about it.

Jeebus, the PSP 3000 is still out there. Nobody is forcing you to buy the PSPGo.

 

[Tellaerin]

UMDs are the single worst thing about the old PSP. They bulk up the form factor, reduce the battery life, and increase the load times. Fuck yeah I'll pay a premium to be rid of them.

*sigh* You don't get it, do you?

They're pulling out the UMD drive.

They're adding 16 GB of memory, which is probably costing them less per unit than the UMD drive did.

They're cutting down the size of the screen.

And they're charging you more for the final product.

Whether or not you think 'the price is fine' is irrelevant. The product is still a ripoff at that price. Please tell me what they've added to this model to justify the higher price tag, aside from the marketing department's arbitrary declaration that it's a 'premium product'.

 

[yankee666]

Like i said before, at leats that what im thinking right now..
a) No wireless G - Wait till 2010 (N-2000)
b) Price to high - Wait till 2010 (N-2000) by that time surely it will be like $199 or less the
N-1000 models and the new model maybe 32GB.
C) No oled - Wait till 2010 (N-2000)
D) No touch screen - Well i think this will never gonna happen, it seems that SCEI doesnt want to do it, this was THE perfect oportunity to trown a toch screen in there and also addeded the gimmick factor (yeah i know 50m users, blah, blah... but that doesnt Stop nintendo to release the Dsi with DS 100M+ users and at a higher price too)

 

[MikeE21286]

Tried this out at E3 today with Gran Turismo, LBP, and Motorstorm. Wow, it feels so much better than the 3000/2000 etc. It feels a lot more natural in your hands aside from the weight loss. The d-pad is nice and clicky, plus the analog nub does not feel out of place. They've really improved the feel of the portable and I want to jack one from the booth tomorrow. :lol

no....don't do this to me...:lol

 

[NomarTyme]

Like i said before, at leats that what im thinking right now..
a) No wireless G - Wait till 2010 (N-2000)
b) Price to high - Wait till 2010 (N-2000) by that time surely it will be like $199 or less the
N-1000 models and the new model maybe 32GB.
C) No oled - Wait till 2010 (N-2000)
D) No touch screen - Well i think this will never gonna happen, it seems that SCEI doesnt want to do it, this was THE perfect oportunity to trown a toch screen in there and also addeded the gimmick factor (yeah i know 50m users, blah, blah... but that doesnt Stop nintendo to release the Dsi with DS 100M+ users and at a higher price too)

The price would be $300+ for all of those things.

 

[Ollie Pooch]

Didn't Sony already learn that unless your handheld is in the 149-199 price range, people WON'T BUY IT? Facts are facts: They only started selling the PSP in nice numbers each month the moment it hit the 149-199$ area. Before that? No one really thought twice about it.

will the higher price point mean cheaper games (as they're all DD)?

 

[Shadow780]

Please tell me what they've added to this model to justify the higher price tag, aside from the marketing department's arbitrary declaration that it's a 'premium product'.

Overall design, which I like more than the existing ones, good enough for me.

 

[LCfiner]

*sigh* You don't get it, do you?

They're pulling out the UMD drive.

They're adding 16 MB of memory, which is probably costing them less per unit than the UMD drive did.

They're cutting down the size of the screen.

And they're charging you more for the final product.

Whether or not you think 'the price is fine' is irrelevant. The product is still a ripoff at that price. Please tell me what they've added to this model to justify the higher price tag, aside from the marketing department's arbitrary declaration that it's a 'premium product'.

they added more margin for retail partners since this unit doesn't need game sales in the store.

that's how you get Gamestop to sell a DD-only device.

don't like it? buy the 3000 and carry around a wallet full of discs

 

[donkey show]

no....don't do this to me...:lol

IT'S THE BETTER PRODUCT BUY IT IT'S AWESOME!!! =P

 

[soldat7]

Sure I do.... there's no UMD slot..... so I cant go to the store and buy a game and pop it in. Yes, I'm well aware all online, blah blah. I'm not a fan of all digital distribution. To me I can't place a value on something I cant feel in my hands. You know damn well they are going to charge full retail price for the downloadable titles.. which is a ripoff.

By them redesigning the unit, yet eliminating the media slot, they are just shooting themselves in the foot and severely limiting the market for the device.

The PSP could already do all the stuff they are doing with the GO.... so what's the point of removing the media, yet jacking the fuck out of the price? There's no justification for it.

I would say that this will cause extreme market confusion, but I don't think there is much of a market to be confused.