I would rather have an iPod Touch 3G (with the specs of the iPhone 3GS) for $250 than a PSP Go. The current iPod Touch 2G (slightly faster than iPhone 3G) came out soon after the iPhone 3G, and the 8GB one is $200. It would not be unreasonable to have the iPod Touch 3G with 8GB or 16GB for $200 within the next 3 months.
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PSP Go? 249.99!!!!
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Powerslave
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PSP Go Away
Gamecocks625
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Powerslave said:
seriously?
OokieSpookie
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Powerslave said:
15 pages in and this was the best you could do?
Seriously?
Powerslave
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I'm just expressing my disapproval of this version of the PSP there's no big deal you over-sensitive fools.
Psychotext
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Yeah... that last part wasn't smart.
Powerslave
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Psychotext said:
lol I didn't even knew what it meant.
Gamecocks625
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Powerslave said:
it's simply tiresome, especially pages and pages of "PSP Go up my butt!" "PSP no Go!" "PSP Go take a dump in my toilet!!" "PSP Go back to your mama's house LOLLOL" "PSP Go talk to my hand because my face don't understand" "PSP Goat face" ...
I'm sure half the people complaining about the PSPgo and the price are the same people who spend tons of money on 50 different systems, on collector's editions, collect every single version of MGS or Resident Evil, spend tons of money on Japanese anime figures and proudly display them over their bed, etc.
It's simply tiresome.
There will be a huge market for the PSPgo despite the whiners.
Powerslave
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Gamecocks625 said:
Admit it, mine was the best
I just don't see why Sony couldn't come up with a better design. Seriously how awkward will playing with that analog stick be?
Powerslave
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JoJo13 said:
DAY ONE
VindicatorZ
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I just can't help but think how well this could do as a phone. If they adveritised this thing in AT&T stores as the new hot phone, people would go nuts. The design itself looks very similar to an IPhone. It has 16 Gigs of memory. You slide it out and you have a full blown controller. They could integrate their own apps, free games, camera, skype, etc. And the bottom line is, the games that are out for it are fantastic, and the what's coming looks great. Sony would also implement a touch a screen.
I think if they made this into a phone, alot of people would buy it. It doesn't have to outsell or rival the Iphone, but there's tons of people who buy Blackberry's and other phones, so why not this?
I think if they made this into a phone, alot of people would buy it. It doesn't have to outsell or rival the Iphone, but there's tons of people who buy Blackberry's and other phones, so why not this?
Gamecocks625 said:
Just the GAF (or internet in general) hivemind. Once they get their minds made up about some thing, or game, or service, their minds will never be changed. Case in point: KZ2. Was supposed to be uber-successful, push PS3s, and such, and didn't. Now Scribblenauts is supposed to be this fuck-awesome game and blah blah blah, and people will forget about it a few weeks later for the next upcoming game. Or it's the Orange Box PS3 debacle, where the game was supposedly unplayable, but was actually quite alright. And going with that, it's the hyperbole. Something is amazingly successful, or a bomba. No inbetweens. So because people don't see it as a success, it's a bomba.
But who knows whether or not it will or won't be successful. Sony was able to push the original PSP at 250 @ launch with a much weaker line-up, MUCH smaller feature set, much less coolness factor, much bulkier hardware, and the PSP sold well at that price. I'm sure sony will be able to do much better with the PSPgo
Captain Tuttle
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This is wonderful.Gamecocks625 said:
Lord Error
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Wasn't PSP sold for 300 when it launched in US?DMeisterJ said:
Lord Error said:
No, it was $249.99 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Portable#Launch)
A lot of silliness in this thread. I could see the outrage if they discontinued the old model, but they're not. I'll be getting one (provided the download library has the games I want), simply because portability counts when it comes to my handheld devices, and the original PSP is anything but. Add to that a way to carry around a variety of UMD's and...yeah. It's just not a convenient device.
The biggest knock against the GO is that it's expensive, but I think given the nature of the device, that was to be expected. If retailers are not going to be selling games with this thing, they have to make their money somewhere. I think the upside of having a smaller, lighter unit that can hold 10-12 games without breaking a sweat is worth it for what I'm looking for in a portable gaming system.
I had a PSP before and got rid of it because it was big and I hated the UMD format: it's loud and has atrocious loading. I loved a lot of the games, but couldn't get past these two things. I'm looking forward to it. Provided the games are there, I just have to decide between black and white.
Unknown One
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Make that day when it hits $130. That's when I'll buy another PSP.Powerslave said:
Unknown Soldier
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Well the reason the GB Micro was ignored was because it was released long after the GBA showed up.
Unless Sony is intending to release the PSP2 first before the PSP Go, I don't see a similar situation.
It's still stupidly expensive, for a device which has a feature removed. Apparently Sony has decided in their infinite wisdom that in order for the privilege of not having the UMD drive, which you can ignore anyways on a regular PSP, you need to pay an extra $100.
Unless Sony is intending to release the PSP2 first before the PSP Go, I don't see a similar situation.
It's still stupidly expensive, for a device which has a feature removed. Apparently Sony has decided in their infinite wisdom that in order for the privilege of not having the UMD drive, which you can ignore anyways on a regular PSP, you need to pay an extra $100.
The Sixth Horseman
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Sony has the habit of misreading the market in terms of pricing. Most Sony products are well-made but overpriced. The PSP Go is another example of this. While the product is great, and I do want one, $249.99 is far too much. The PSP is selling alright, but the software isn't. Now that the PSP Go is download only, it's something that many consumers aren't aware of or know how to use. If they do know how to use this type of service, you can guarantee that they are getting their gaming through their iPhone. In order for the PSP Go to be successful, it has to be at $199.99 or less, preferably $179.99. As of right now, it will sell ok for the first few months but will drop in sales quickly and Sony will be facing the same issues with software sales.
yurinka
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Yes, but right now to change UMD drive for 16GB + bluetooth + smaller battery IMO deserves to have the current PSP 3000 price.DMeisterJ said:
I only understand the $249 price seeing current global Sony (not gaming) numbers, they need extra profit.
$249 (or even $299) would be ok for me adding touchscreen, camera and mobile phone support. I would buy it (I have a PSP 1000).
I think what they really need to do is to release for free their PSP SDK, and to let the everyone publish apps / games in the PSN PSP store, and to forget the typical console developer/game approval process and royalties. These are the keys of the iPhone success.
In iPhone you just download the SDK (unlike in console in terms of hardware you only need your computer and a normal iPhone), develop your game, upload it to the AppStore and win the 70% of the money the people pays (if it isn't free). Apple wins 30% of this money.
It isn't as easy in console. First, you must be a licensed developer. This mean a lot of money, approvals and lots of forms to fill. Their SDK are expensive and hard to use. Then to publish the game it's a pain in the ass to get the approval (I'm ok with it but I think the process specially with Sony could be improved a lot).
Seeing the PSP homebrew scene, I think "legally" it would be just amazing, adding here professional developers. Tons of cools and free apps, games and demos for the users, tons of money for Sony and for the 3rd parties.
Panajev2001a
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yurinka said:
I'll fight back with "in-game XMB with a twist" aka Game Suspend and XMB control without huge pauses and splash screens (like you would have exiting a game, doing your XMB stuff, and restarting the game)
.The biggest problem with the $250 price is... how much longer will the PSP last? I know they have some killer titles coming out soon but if they sell as well as the older PSP games have sold then the PSP could really be over in a couple of years. When the system first launched at the same price the future looked a lot better.
yurinka
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In old PSP SKUs, the game can be suspended using the standby mode with the power switch. If they add the in-game XMB like in PS3, why don't to activate in old PSP SKUs pressing the home/PS button like in PS3? Why not? I think PSP Go doesn't have extra HW to able it.Panajev2001a said:I'll fight back with "in-game XMB with a twist" aka Game Suspend and XMB control without huge pauses and splash screens (like you would have exiting a game, doing your XMB stuff, and restarting the game)
Oni Jazar said:
PSP Go means they now are focusing to a download market. If they afford it properly following Apple's way -as I explained in a previous post-, Sony would earn tons of money, developers would support the system and get profit, and the users would be happy with tons of (cheaper/free) content.
Sony wouldn't need extra 1st party support developing little PSN games to have a big library and firmware upgrades to add software features or licenses (let's say like Facebook or Twitter apps). They also would spend less money in devkits and managing approvals and this stuff.
Everyone would be happy and the system would last for years and years.
Panajev2001a
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yurinka said:
Game Suspend in the older PSP was used to allow you to let PSP sleep.
Some CFW versions do allow such functionality, let's call it VERY quick save running state --> resume cycle.
I can think of security reasons for why Sony would not want to add this functionality to older PSP's, but also performance (the internal Flash memory storage in the PSP Go might indeed be faster than the Memory Stick interface/card) and product positioning reasons (another exclusive feature the PSP Go enjoys over the older and cheaper models).
PSP Games can only see 32 MB of RAM (some of it is volatile IIRC, meaning that you are not supposed to rely on its contents after say a normal suspend --> sleep --> wake cycle)... if you wanted to do it brute force and leave that RAM open for say... another game to start and load in... you just need to save those 32 MB of RAM plus some other small bits of data to the fast internal Flash memory and then resume it quickly at a later time (an operation which would take what 3-4 seconds to do?). Still, they might not even go down the brute force path and only save some small status data and pause the game while the XMB is loaded again in the other 32 MB memory area (PSP-1000 loads up the same XMB as the other models, but only has 32 MB of RAM so a model with 64 MB should in theory be able to keep a full game + XMB loaded in RAM at the same time... PSP-2000 and PSP-3000 cannot rely on the complete 32 MB of extra RAM at all times... when users are running UMD games with the cache activated a portion of the extra 32 MB will go towards that purpose while on the PSP Go you, the OS developer, know for sure that you do not need the UMD cache reserved at any time).
Also, PSP Go allows Sony to add differentiating features because it is seen as as separate model that does not kill off and replace the older PSP models... PSP-2000 added 32 MB of RAM (some of it was used as UMD cache to speed loadings up), but I do not think that besides UMD cache, Skype, and maybe other little bits and pieces that those extra 32 MB of RAM were used to their fullest potential (PSP Go does not even need that 3-4 MB of UMD cache btw, so more RAM for the system to play around with at ALL times).
Powerslave
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Please Sony, no PSP2...... give the PSP a few more years.
I hate it when consoles/handhelds have short lives.
I hate it when consoles/handhelds have short lives.
zoukka said:
I don't have the original system anymore. In fact, I haven't had it for about a year and a half, so that's really kind of a moot point. I do pay for convenience, quite honestly, not going to deny it. A hassle to me is having to stay ahead of Sony's firmware restrictions and rip every game I buy.
The one thing I am concerned about is the price on the downloads, since I can no longer buy used games. I don't want to have to spend $39.99 for Valyrie Profile if it's been out for three years. They need to be consistent with software price drop, also. I see the limited offering on the PS3 store, and some games look okay while some, Jeanne De Arc, are a bit off.
We'll see. If I don't like software pricing or selection at launch, I'll hold off until it improves.
Hexadecimalt
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PSP Go *insert derogatory phrase*
Dice
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Since I got a PS3 I've been thinking about ditching the DS for a PSP. I didn't really own a lot of games for it and right now only Scribblenauts and DQ9 look good to me, and a two-game sacrifice isn't much to me, even if they are excellent. I've been getting more into the mood for action/adventure games and PSP seems to have plenty of those, not to mention access to PS1 games.
I'm not worried about there being a PSP2 because it seems obvious to me that Sony is strongly tying this PSP to the PS3. That is part of the draw for me, but also a significant reassurance when looking at the purchase of a PSP. Carrying my games around with me on the DS has been cumbersome and just feels outdated. Virtual games would be really fantastic for a portable device, and if I fill up the 16GB on my PSP, I still have an absurd amount of space on my PS3 so I can just keep what I'm currently playing on the PSP.
So overall it seems really cool, the only issues is that I would wonder about is how comfortable it is to play and I wonder about the screen. With the features given I don't have much of a problem with the price, but I also think it's only fair to have a top-notch screen if it will be smaller when charging that much. Destructoid did the only quality hands-on coverage at E3 by actually addressing these issues, and they said it's fantastic. So... I guess I'm in.
I'm not worried about there being a PSP2 because it seems obvious to me that Sony is strongly tying this PSP to the PS3. That is part of the draw for me, but also a significant reassurance when looking at the purchase of a PSP. Carrying my games around with me on the DS has been cumbersome and just feels outdated. Virtual games would be really fantastic for a portable device, and if I fill up the 16GB on my PSP, I still have an absurd amount of space on my PS3 so I can just keep what I'm currently playing on the PSP.
So overall it seems really cool, the only issues is that I would wonder about is how comfortable it is to play and I wonder about the screen. With the features given I don't have much of a problem with the price, but I also think it's only fair to have a top-notch screen if it will be smaller when charging that much. Destructoid did the only quality hands-on coverage at E3 by actually addressing these issues, and they said it's fantastic. So... I guess I'm in.
UntoldDreams
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To me the biggest advertised feature which we are ignoring is that PSP Go can have Bluetooth tethering to your cell phone for internet access.
So the PSP Go will be able to have internet through wifi or my cell phone for anytime access.
That's a great feature especially if they do a good job on PSN content.
So the PSP Go will be able to have internet through wifi or my cell phone for anytime access.
That's a great feature especially if they do a good job on PSN content.
Tiduz said:
I think Sony is missing allot of sales because of no PSN cards in Europe, I know it's because every region has a different currency system but they could make 3 types for Europe (Euro, GBP, and AS$) it could cost them at 1st but it's not like they are giving it away for free.
Now that there are cards for Canada there might still be hope for Europe.
Shawnwhann
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I was interested in the PSP Go, but my interest waned after seeing the pricing details and getting my hands on the system at E3.
I personally like the design of the PSP Go, but I didn't find the device to be very ergonomic at all. I'm a bigger guy, so I was taken aback by how cramped my hands felt around the unit. The analog stick was noticeably tighter (more resistance) than the stick on the red PSP-2000 I had, but the buttons were too small and "clicky" for my taste. In addition, there was a little bit of a wiggle on the screen in the open position.
I ultimately ended up picking up the Rock Band bundle last week, but I'm happy to see Sony opt for the day and date retail/online releases. Hopefully the sizes of the Duos expands to 32 GB around the time the PSP Go goes live.
I personally like the design of the PSP Go, but I didn't find the device to be very ergonomic at all. I'm a bigger guy, so I was taken aback by how cramped my hands felt around the unit. The analog stick was noticeably tighter (more resistance) than the stick on the red PSP-2000 I had, but the buttons were too small and "clicky" for my taste. In addition, there was a little bit of a wiggle on the screen in the open position.
I ultimately ended up picking up the Rock Band bundle last week, but I'm happy to see Sony opt for the day and date retail/online releases. Hopefully the sizes of the Duos expands to 32 GB around the time the PSP Go goes live.
Judging a system on prototype software?for shame.
No problem with the 'cramped' feeling, as that won't change, but the screen looseness is not indicative of a final product, and the buttons need to be clicky because they are digital, and not pressure sensetive, that was a major problem with the original PSP(s).
No problem with the 'cramped' feeling, as that won't change, but the screen looseness is not indicative of a final product, and the buttons need to be clicky because they are digital, and not pressure sensetive, that was a major problem with the original PSP(s).