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[Callibretto]

Apparently it (and the NGP) will exist only to subsidize games for PS3 and iPhone owners.

$40-60 on the PSP/NGP, $20 (per game, I'm sure collections of 2-3 games will be at $40 or so) on the PS3, and under $10 on the iPhone.

Call it a handheld with buttons tax. Everyone wins, except those that actually play games on the PSP/NGP...

I assure you PSP remastered games on PS3 won't be $20 per game. it'd be $30 minimum except for the really old games. MHP3rd HD? that could go as high as $40 or even $50.

and NGP games still not gonna be playable on PS3, so you still have to buy NGP for Uncharted and Wipeout.

 

[DXPett1]

You know what's a total longshot, but would be cool in HD? Patchwork Heroes. I would love that in HD.

Totally forgot about this game. Might have to power up the Go and give it a lashing

 

[Augemitbutter]

So what's the point of psp now? Seriously, as if Sony hadn't confused consumers enough with this shit.

wat

did you assume every PSP game is getting ported? if so, then you're wrong. a few selected will be, that's it.

 

[Captain N]

Any chance the PS3 content will be trophies?

 

[jetsetfluken]

No Trophies?
Why does this have to be half-assed?

 

[pharmboy044]

No Trophies?
Why does this have to be half-assed?

I could be wrong but isn't because of the save files being the same for the PSP and ps3 games?

 

[SapientWolf]

No trophies is pretty lame and drops my interest level a lot.

ITT we learn the unintended consequences of extrinsic rewards. They sap your motivation to play video games for the pure enjoyment of it.

 

[jetsetfluken]

I could be wrong but isn't bec
ause of the save files being the same for the PSP and ps3 games?

I know. They could have easily made these PS3 only and in turn have less limitation. Screw the connectivity, I could more or less have the same experience with PSPGO+DS3 and hooked to HDTV via component.

 

[Ichabod]

Very, very excite. I would happily pay over $599 US dollars for ports of Final Fantasy Tactics WOTL (sans shitty lag) and Tactics Ogre alone.

 

[I NEED SCISSORS]

As needs be, yes. But the specifics of that example I really don't know about. It's seemingly a lot more work to do it in HD if they were never going to use it for that, I don't know though.

Have you played Peace Walker? You can zoom in very far in the cutscenes, so yes they can hold up at larger sizes.

 

[StuBurns]

Have you played Peace Walker? You can zoom in very far in the cutscenes, so yes they can hold up at larger sizes.

That's illogical, the fact that you can zoom in just means they're higher res for native display, not that they'd be higher that much again for zooming in HD. And yes I've played it. I don't think it's good actually, so I'm not sure why I bothered bringing the cutscenes up, just curious I guess.

 

[DiscoJer]

I assure you PSP remastered games on PS3 won't be $20 per game. it'd be $30 minimum except for the really old games. MHP3rd HD? that could go as high as $40 or even $50.

and NGP games still not gonna be playable on PS3, so you still have to buy NGP for Uncharted and Wipeout.

I imagine we will see the games in collections, $40 for 2-3 games, so about $20 a piece. But yeah, single game ones will probably be $30, though I can see $20 as the street price within a couple of months.

And yes, you can't play NGP games on the PS3 right now. But just wait for the inevitable NGP Remasters...I'm sure a lot of people will. That's my point - Sony has crossed the Rubicon with this.

Indeed, trying to a sell a portable where the main showcase game happens to be a PS3 spinoff that will likely eventually end up on the PS3 is really going to work out well for Sony.

 

[Professor Beef]

Sky is falling, cats and dogs are living with each other, etc.

 

[Curufinwe]

Time to upgrade my PS3 HDD.

I hope they're all downloadable in the West, at least. I love having games ready to play on my hard drive.

No trophies is a shame, though.

 

[MoneyLaunderer]

I hope they're all downloadable in the West, at least. I love having games ready to play on my hard drive.

No trophies is a shame, though.

Same here on both fronts. No trophies blows, but as a gamer who doesn't own a PSP I'm looking forward to (hopefully) getting to play many of the kick-ass titles the PSP has to offer.

 

[SykoTech]

Being a completionist, I like trophies and am disappointed that they aren't supported in the Remasters. But that sure ass hell won't stop me from getting onboard. No way. I just hope the games I want get chosen. Birth by Sleep probably has a decent enough chance, but not sure about the others.

 

[Callibretto]

I imagine we will see the games in collections, $40 for 2-3 games, so about $20 a piece. But yeah, single game ones will probably be $30, though I can see $20 as the street price within a couple of months.

And yes, you can't play NGP games on the PS3 right now. But just wait for the inevitable NGP Remasters...I'm sure a lot of people will. That's my point - Sony has crossed the Rubicon with this.

Indeed, trying to a sell a portable where the main showcase game happens to be a PS3 spinoff that will likely eventually end up on the PS3 is really going to work out well for Sony.

I'm sure there will be NGP remaster... by the end of NGP life cycle and when the next Sony handheld is announced. beside, if Sony crossed the Rubicon, it's way back when they port psp games to ps2. yet, I haven't really seen people asking Kingdom Hearts or Dissidia port to PS2.

 

[Lothars]

That's insane, I love it. There's many PSP games I would love to have playable on the PS3.

 

[Negator]

I was actually hoping at one point that I would be able to download PSP games and play them on my PS3.

Not as ideal a solution but I'll buy any PSP3 remake that I'm interested in.

 

[Truespeed]

A Wipeout Pulse and Pure double pack would be magical.

 

[Suikoguy]

I might be late on this suggestion but:

Buy on PS3 and play on NGP would be awesome.
With save sync to a server.

 

[Mr_Appleby]

the no trophy brigade? seriously? for psp games??

i think people should try and remember these aren't ports in the sense you are used to but almost the same game, with cross-compatible save files. it would be impossible to track trophy achievements across multiple platforms when one of those platforms doesn't support trophies at all, and the save formats of the games are already established thus negating the possibility of trophy-tracking anything not recorded in that format.

I think in this case we're better off without them until the portable device has trophy support itself.

 

[frAntic_Frog]

Itrying to a sell a portable where the main showcase game happens to be a PS3 spinoff that will likely eventually end up on the PS3 is really going to work out well for Sony.

if only NGP games using touchscreen/touchpad/accelarometer could easily translate to Dualshock3 controls, then you might have a point


as for those crying for trophies....these remasters are designed to be played between PS3 and PSP. how then would you earn trophies on the PSP to transfer over to the PS3

 

[Takao]

I'm sure there will be NGP remaster... by the end of NGP life cycle and when the next Sony handheld is announced. beside, if Sony crossed the Rubicon, it's way back when they port psp games to ps2. yet, I haven't really seen people asking Kingdom Hearts or Dissidia port to PS2.

No, people want those games on PS3, because they probably wouldn't play the games on PS2 either.

 

[Barry Lightning]

keep recycling that old shit. progress.

 

[Professor Beef]

I'm sure there will be NGP remaster... by the end of NGP life cycle and when the next Sony handheld is announced. beside, if Sony crossed the Rubicon, it's way back when they port psp games to ps2. yet, I haven't really seen people asking Kingdom Hearts or Dissidia port to PS2.

I wouldn't play Dissidia on the PS2 because I've been spoiled by online play/Ad Hoc party.

 

[54-46!]

I guess I'll hold out on re-buying a PSP, I'm curious about whether the Remaster titles will work on NGP in some way and how save transfers will work.

Do you guys think region converted PSP saves will work on the PS3 versions? I've got a couple of US saves for MGS5 and MHFU, but I would rather have the PAL versions of the Remaster games.

 

[manzo]

In a way, this is exactly what I want. I don't have to play through the USB remote play on my projector after this. The PSP games look pretty funky on a 120" screen.

On the other hand, this kinda tells an embarrassing situation of the PS3 in Japan; Sony has to resort to the PSP library to get more games out?

I don't know what this will ultimately cause (all games on PSP, then ported to PS3 later?) but... eh, what the hell. Bring 'em on.

 

[Mako_Drug]

On the other hand, this kinda tells an embarrassing situation of the PS3 in Japan; Sony has to resort to the PSP library to get more games out?

What an odd conclusion to draw from this news

 

[manzo]

What an odd conclusion to draw from this news

Maybe it's just my mind playing tricks, but this is how it feels.

"Hey, we have this console in the living room too!"

 

[54-46!]

In a way, this is exactly what I want. I don't have to play through the USB remote play on my projector after this. The PSP games look pretty funky on a 120" screen.

On the other hand, this kinda tells an embarrassing situation of the PS3 in Japan; Sony has to resort to the PSP library to get more games out?

I don't know what this will ultimately cause (all games on PSP, then ported to PS3 later?) but... eh, what the hell. Bring 'em on.

wat

 

[manzo]

wat

But I like playing Ys 7 with a 360 pad.

 

[IonicSnake]

Don't know why they would remaster PSP games for the NGP since you already can play every PSP game on it (no UMDs obviously). Didn't they also say that PSP games on NGP will get a slight increase in graphics? And since you can share save between the PSP game and the remasterd PSP game then you can still play the PSP game on NGP and use that save for the remasterd version on PS3.

 

[Gravijah]

Don't know why they would remaster PSP games for the NGP since you already can play every PSP game on it. Didn't they also say that PSP games on NGP will get a slight increase in graphics? And since you can share save between the PSP game and the remasterd PSP game then you can still play the PSP game on NGP and use that save for the remasterd version on PS3.

Getting people to rebuy games in various forms is always smart.

 

[Elios83]

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/06/30/psp_engine/

The technology that runs the PSP Remaster series of PSP to PS3 HD remakes now has a name: PSP Engine.

Introduced by Sony's Kentaro Suzuki during a session at the Game Tools & Middleware Forum 2011 event in Tokyo (via Famitsu.com), PSP Engine is the base engine for PSP Remaster games. PSP Engine acts as a middle ground between the PlayStation 3 OS and a PSP game and offers the following features:

High res rendering
Control (with Dual Analogue support) through wireless controllers (Dualshock 3/Sixaxis)
3D stereoscopic output
Ad-hoc Party unification
Main memory and graphic memory expansion
Common save data

There aren't really any major surprises in that list given what we know about the Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD version.

Famitsu's coverage from the event shows some slides that go more in-depth about a few of these features. The memory expansion feature can is used to swap out high resolution textures and other assets, for instance.

So Sony is providing an engine/middleware to make PSP remastered titles. It also supports graphic memory expansion which allows to swap original textures with higher res ones.

 

[ascii42]

Famitsu's coverage from the event shows some slides that go more in-depth about a few of these features. The memory expansion feature can is used to swap out high resolution textures and other assets, for instance.

Sounds cool. I look forward to seeing if games take advantage of this.

 

[badcrumble]

It's good to hear that all those MHP3HD features are pretty much standard in the middleware and as such can (hopefully) be expected across all PSP Remaster titles.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Common save data is the best bullet point of all.

 

[Elios83]

I think that PSP engine will prove to be really helpful for developers to sell remastered versions of original PSP games with cross compatibility with Vita.
So in this sense Sony is really helping third partues to make easy money here.

 

[AranhaHunter]

I think that PSP engine will prove to be really helpful for developers to sell remastered versions of original PSP games with cross compatibility with Vita.
So in this sense Sony is really helping third partues to make easy money here.

It would make no sense whatsoever if these PSP HD remasters are not on PSN and Vita compatible Day 1. Then again, this is Sony, so you never know. The confusing thing is that it seems to be up to developers whether or not they want to include trophies (GOW, PW yes, MHP3 no). Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

 

[Callibretto]

It would make no sense whatsoever if these PSP HD remasters are not on PSN and Vita compatible Day 1. Then again, this is Sony, so you never know. The confusing thing is that it seems to be up to developers whether or not they want to include trophies (GOW, PW yes, MHP3 no). Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

I don't think GoW origin is part of the remastered series, same with MGS PW, they made no mention about remaster series at all during their reveal aren't they?

especially for MGS PW, probably the reason abuot Kojima's tweet. he work on porting PW, then later find out Sony is providing the engine for that very purpose, rendering his effort useless (or not very significant)

 

[DigitalDevil]

I would say which games I'm really hoping come over, but I don't want to get banned for port port begging...

 

[SolidSnakex]

Sony has opened their PSP Remaster site

http://www.jp.playstation.com/pspremaster/index.html

Commemorating the site's opening, Sony has posted some messages from its engineers and Monster Hunter producer Ryozo Tsujimoto. Tsujimoto revealed that when Sony first told Capcom about the PSP Remaster series, they showed him a demo they'd prepared of Monster Hunter Portable 3rd. Capcom immediately decided to go ahead with making Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD. There were some issues remaining at that time, but the fact that the game looked better than they'd been expecting, was the clincher.

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/07/16/psp_remaster_site_opens/

 

[isamu]

Sony has opened their PSP Remaster site

http://www.jp.playstation.com/pspremaster/index.html



http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/07/16/psp_remaster_site_opens/

Nice

Out of curisoty, is that Danielle Harris in your avatar?