DangerMouse
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Yeah, I saw it in another thread once too, I feel like I'm lucky I was able to add my gift balance a couple of times without it killing my order.
PSVR Review Thread
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Yeah, I saw it in another thread once too, I feel like I'm lucky I was able to add my gift balance a couple of times without it killing my order.
GitarooMan
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Have you played Battlezone or Rigs? Really curious about how those do re: motion sickness.
I kinda feel like, if the main selling point is that it's a cheaper entry into vR than the other headsets, and not "it's a great product", that Doesn't seem too good
Steve McQueen
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Yeah, that's what I meant exactly.
Wonder why no reviewer talks about this. Seems pretty awesome.
It's impossible to recommend any of the 3 VR headsets to be honest. It's still in the early stages and any recommendation should come with a big early adopter warning flag.
Based on what people are saying: It isn't though.
It's cool if you have a spouse and you want to sit in the same room and you play a game while the TV is used for something else or as a travel companion.
But the resolution is noticeable worse than just watching it on a standard FHD TV. I think the novelty will wear off fast, although that might be said for VR in general not just the cinema mode. Who knows.
pixellated_man
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Good thing that most of us live in houses not studios!
It's obvious that the issues Giant Bomb ran into are not representative of the general experience people are having / have had with PSVR. You don't get the most positive reviews of all the VR headsets when your hardware doesn't even work, lol.
Some of you are grasping for negativity for some reason.
Battlezone is fine - Once the calibration's been done (and there's a setting in a menu that's hidden that I think should *really* be up front to change the distance between your eyes) I didn't have any problems whatsoever.
Rigs, we can't talk about just yet.
This has helped my concerns. I understand I can always get a defective unit, but that's far better than it being flawed. As I can always get it replaced, and yeah, replacing something sucks. But it never got on the way of me enjoying a product. After all, everything you buy has a chance of being defective, some more than others.
Shadow2222
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Based on what people are saying: It isn't though.
It's cool if you have a spouse and you want to sit in the same room and you play a game while the TV is used for something else or as a travel companion.
But the resolution is noticeable worse than just watching it on a standard FHD TV. I think the novelty will wear off fast, although that might be said for VR in general not just the cinema mode. Who knows.
This is pretty much my situation with my partner, especially since I have my PC hooked up to my TV. Since I'm in a tiny apartment with no other "big" TV, my current options when he wants to use the TV are use my phone or remote play on my Vita.
If the quality isn't downright unwatchable, I really want to try using the WatchESPN app in Cinematic Mode to watch college football.
DangerMouse
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Yeah, I'm really excited to try it.
Agreed, I haven't seen anything either and it's one of the early things I would try, only thing I could think of is they either just haven't tried it or we'll be getting a firmware update in the next few days as I'd assume it's available right away given it's in the faq.
Yup.
They either have a dud, or they royally messed up their setup. Maybe that 4am wakeup wasn't a good idea.
Looking flawless on GameSpot... So far.
SmoothRunningGun
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Don't buy gen 1.
All of our videos - https://www.youtube.com/nextgengamingblog - were done in a living room with a single photography lamp for extra lighting - No tracking issues apart from the minor drift I mentioned above during VR Worlds
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If people don't buy Gen 1, there won't be a Gen 2.
Really curious when we'll even start seeing gen 2 hardware.
DangerMouse
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Way better.
pixellated_man
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There's a lot more reviews out there aside from the one's the OP listed. A lot of sites proclaiming it as their favorite headset so far. And the cautiousness over VR is not exclusive to PSVR but VR in general.
panda-zebra
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I think praying for faulty cameras would be less of a headache for everyone involved. Best case scenario might be a firmware issue that can be rectified without any back-and-forth of hardware.
Not great, but much better that there being some kind of fundamental flaw in the system. Hoping too that launch units and the ones in the hands of reviewers are somehow different.
Those who scored have mostly based their numbers on the hardware's tech, form, function and use - which Sony was never going to struggle with. Many of the quotes you might see as not lining up could be those where the reviewer has offered an opinion from the view of a potential purchaser in their summing up, so it's understandable to see a difference here as the entry price isn't trivial and it's early days on that front as well as mature VR software experiences early on. Reading/viewing the full reviews paints a fuller picture rather than 2-line snippets.
Steve McQueen
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Based on what people are saying: It isn't though.
It's cool if you have a spouse and you want to sit in the same room and you play a game while the TV is used for something else or as a travel companion.
But the resolution is noticeable worse than just watching it on a standard FHD TV. I think the novelty will wear off fast, although that might be said for VR in general not just the cinema mode. Who knows.
Let's hope it's decent. Haven't read any impressions on regular games myself. Got any links btw?
Tbh...it's the first thing I'm gonna try when I get my hands on the PSVR
Fingers crossed.DangerMouse
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I'm thinking the wait will be a while, probably not until at least PS5, no need to upgrade the headset until the hardware powering it gets another bump to actually be able to support more.
Projectors and gaming on a 100+ inch screen is an awesome thing when I've had the chance to try it
I agree with the point though, it doesn't stop me from also getting into games on my 55" TV though as well.
It was a topic in the Gamespot livestream while they were playing Until Dawn. I can't give an exact timestamp.
Bitch Pudding
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If I hadn't bought PlayStation 1 or the Wii I would have missed some amazing experiences. And sometimes, waiting for 2.0 can go down like a lead balloon.
I know that this is gen 1 and that there are some severe drawbacks. But I am still there day 1.
Vyse The Legend
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This continues to be horrible, short-sighted advice. Early adopters are an absolute necessity. However, a person should know what they are getting into before taking the leap, which is the purpose of these reviews.
User123456
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After playing the most intense and satisfying game of Time Crisis 4 with my PS Move and Shooting Attachment, I can't help but think that whatever tracking issues reviewers came up with MUST be due to either incorrect setup, wrong calibration or outright faulty hardware.
I sit about a meter and a half to two meters away from the TV and camera, which means the tiniest, most minuscule wrist rotation is translated into a very obvious movement of the on-screen reticle. When aiming at targets in rapid succession during intense firefights, the tracking is essentially perfect. When keeping my aim still in a single point, the reticle matches my pulse pretty much exactly.
It is only when leaving the gun on a flat surface that I actually see that the reticle vibrates a tiny little bit (always around a fixed center point, it doesn't drift away) but this vibration is so laughably tiny, we're talking millimetres on a 32 inch TV, and it is completely masked by my natural pulse when the Move is in my hand.
Unless Sony fucked up the PS4 camera spectacularly in relation to the PS3's camera, there's simply no way what I'm experiencing could ever possibly translate to Batparkinson here.
I sit about a meter and a half to two meters away from the TV and camera, which means the tiniest, most minuscule wrist rotation is translated into a very obvious movement of the on-screen reticle. When aiming at targets in rapid succession during intense firefights, the tracking is essentially perfect. When keeping my aim still in a single point, the reticle matches my pulse pretty much exactly.
It is only when leaving the gun on a flat surface that I actually see that the reticle vibrates a tiny little bit (always around a fixed center point, it doesn't drift away) but this vibration is so laughably tiny, we're talking millimetres on a 32 inch TV, and it is completely masked by my natural pulse when the Move is in my hand.
Unless Sony fucked up the PS4 camera spectacularly in relation to the PS3's camera, there's simply no way what I'm experiencing could ever possibly translate to Batparkinson here.
The point of a review isn't to sound like it was created by a person who was twirling and doing the Charleston with the product. It's possible for a professional to assign a positive value to an item without communicating the value in a tone of ecstasy.
Steve McQueen
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Okay, thanks! Will try to look it up.
Crayon
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Projectors and gaming on a 100+ inch screen is an awesome thing
Honestly it's been a long time since I played on a large projector and I think it was about a 100 inch image. That one was possible to adjust to in a few hours but I did get the impression that something even a bit bigger would be hard to take for granted. So maybe there is hope for the cinema mode feature.
pixellated_man
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Review from reputable VR website http://www.roadtovr.com/playstation-vr-review-psvr-console-vr-has-arrived/
'PlayStation VR is a strong start for virtual reality on consoles, showing that it not only can be done, but it can be done well; the system is home to some of the best VR content Ive played yet.
Powered by the now three year old foundation of PS4, Im blown away by the visuals that have been achieved on PSVR. Im especially interested to see how things improve further with the launch of PS4 Pro.
The 1920×1080 might be lower on paper than the headsets two major competitors, but its perfectly capable of creating powerfully immersive experiences and beautiful virtual worlds, despite a few display flaws.
The design and ergonomics of PlayStation VR feel class leading in many ways compared to the Rift and Vive, with a design that maximizes field of view and comfort. Though I really would have liked to see built-in headphones to eliminate an extra cable and bulk from a pair of headphones not designed to be worn with a VR headset.
PSVRs tracking is likely to be its biggest challenge going forward. It feels only just over the good enough line and is notably less accurate and responsive compared to the more expensive Rift and Vive.
By no surprise and no mistake, PlayStation VR is in a big way all about the price. Consoles have always been about value. And despite being based on demonstrably less powerful hardware, PSVR delivers a VR experience that punches above its weight class and makes a strong argument for both existing and new console players to jump into VR.'
'PlayStation VR is a strong start for virtual reality on consoles, showing that it not only can be done, but it can be done well; the system is home to some of the best VR content Ive played yet.
Powered by the now three year old foundation of PS4, Im blown away by the visuals that have been achieved on PSVR. Im especially interested to see how things improve further with the launch of PS4 Pro.
The 1920×1080 might be lower on paper than the headsets two major competitors, but its perfectly capable of creating powerfully immersive experiences and beautiful virtual worlds, despite a few display flaws.
The design and ergonomics of PlayStation VR feel class leading in many ways compared to the Rift and Vive, with a design that maximizes field of view and comfort. Though I really would have liked to see built-in headphones to eliminate an extra cable and bulk from a pair of headphones not designed to be worn with a VR headset.
PSVRs tracking is likely to be its biggest challenge going forward. It feels only just over the good enough line and is notably less accurate and responsive compared to the more expensive Rift and Vive.
By no surprise and no mistake, PlayStation VR is in a big way all about the price. Consoles have always been about value. And despite being based on demonstrably less powerful hardware, PSVR delivers a VR experience that punches above its weight class and makes a strong argument for both existing and new console players to jump into VR.'
DangerMouse
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Yeah, the obvious thing in this case will be the tradeoff in fidelity which I'm anxious to see if I won't mind at least sometimes.
Again though like you said I too still get plenty into games on my 55" TV.
They did that test in several lighting conditions and took out a damned tape measure to make sure it was set up right. The .gif just shows one of those.
It's either a hardware issue, software, or fundamental design flaw. The GB guys are not idiots and also had it set up in their actual homes where they tested it in advance.
Hale-XF11
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This kills PSVR for me. I don't care how good everything else is, if the tracking is iffy at best, then I won't be getting it. When I had an Oculus DK2, even the slightest tracking issues caused me to put the thing back in the box and decide to wait until that got sorted out in the future.
Kwansu Dudes
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How is the IQ/smeariness compared to the Samsung GearVR?
Delivered on the 17th? or it won't get shipped?
Dirtyshubb
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They literally say its passed the point of being good enough, not that it's iffy.
Cc23830
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Shipped on the 17th sorry.
Hale-XF11
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I can't reconcile "good enough" with "notably less accurate and responsive." Add in the issues that GB were having and yeah...it's super iffy.
I see. Mine won't arrive until the 17th.
I'll be curious to see how widespread the hardware issues are once they're out in the wild en-masse. Surprising they didn't catch whatever the issue is earlier given that tracking is more or less the whole ball game with VR.
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Gaiaknight
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anyone know when the embargo for Here They Lie is? thats the one game im really interested in
pixellated_man
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It's hard reconciling the negativity of some in this thread with the overall fantastic reviews Sony's headset is getting.
Here's another one from ArsTechnica http://arstechnica.co.uk/gaming/2016/10/playstation-ps-vr-review/;
'In a way, it's incredible that a virtual reality experience this good is possible on the PlayStation 4 at all. At its best, PlayStation VR approaches the quality of the current state-of-the-art PC-based VR headsets at a fraction of the price. The fact that the PlayStation VR is much more comfortable and has better optics than those competitors, that it can be easily set up in a living room, and that it comes with the significant software publishing muscle of Sony all make it instantly compelling.
Still, the middle-of-the-road approach comes with compromises on both ends. You don't get the easy portability and bargain price of a cell-phone based VR system, and you don't get the high-resolution, heavily detailed scenes, and effortless tracking that are possible on the high-end PC headsets. Instead, you get the same kind of easy-to-use but compromised sweet-spot of price and power that video game consoles have always aimed for. If you're looking for something to bridge that significant gap between low-end and high-end virtual reality, Sony has what you're looking for.'
Here's another one from ArsTechnica http://arstechnica.co.uk/gaming/2016/10/playstation-ps-vr-review/;
'In a way, it's incredible that a virtual reality experience this good is possible on the PlayStation 4 at all. At its best, PlayStation VR approaches the quality of the current state-of-the-art PC-based VR headsets at a fraction of the price. The fact that the PlayStation VR is much more comfortable and has better optics than those competitors, that it can be easily set up in a living room, and that it comes with the significant software publishing muscle of Sony all make it instantly compelling.
Still, the middle-of-the-road approach comes with compromises on both ends. You don't get the easy portability and bargain price of a cell-phone based VR system, and you don't get the high-resolution, heavily detailed scenes, and effortless tracking that are possible on the high-end PC headsets. Instead, you get the same kind of easy-to-use but compromised sweet-spot of price and power that video game consoles have always aimed for. If you're looking for something to bridge that significant gap between low-end and high-end virtual reality, Sony has what you're looking for.'
panda-zebra
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Watching the GameSpot stream right now, on the demo disc menu there is absolutely no sign of the constant weird z-wavering GiantBomb stream displayed, it's sound and steady, so you can count out fundamental design flaw.
Damn, Jim Sterling, damn him ... I'd already decided to pass on Rush of Blood until I saw this. I do quite like house of the dead, so, yeah ... ordering today.
The thing seems really good enough to have great experiences, so that's up to Sony now to make VR something necessary for a gamer, by having killer apps.
There are so many things that can be done, game from their library that can be ported...
I'm optimistic for a reason. In the kinda funny review they compare it to the Vita, saying will it be abandoned and people will regret it after 6 month. But i think there is a major difference here. Devs, creators everywhere, will be curious about developing for VR, while there is no real reason to dev for a Vita, except for economic reasons, and that's where the problem is. But VR ? How can you be a game maker and not want to experiment with it i mean.. Great things will come, if it sells good enough.
There are so many things that can be done, game from their library that can be ported...
I'm optimistic for a reason. In the kinda funny review they compare it to the Vita, saying will it be abandoned and people will regret it after 6 month. But i think there is a major difference here. Devs, creators everywhere, will be curious about developing for VR, while there is no real reason to dev for a Vita, except for economic reasons, and that's where the problem is. But VR ? How can you be a game maker and not want to experiment with it i mean.. Great things will come, if it sells good enough.
Except, reviewers are saying directly it's a great product ...
So, for me it's certainly not the hardware holding me off from buying it. I'm just still not completely sold on the games available at launch so far. Might as well wait for a few months, that way I'll have more to choose from and also see how/if Sony is really pushing it like I hope they will.
pixellated_man
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Are we talking about the generally very positive reception or are we clinging to the few negative reports? Some of you are you weird, lol.