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Rainbow Six: Siege free DLC (Operation: Black Ice) out today
- Thread starter Anton Sugar
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Getting it too. Don't remember it being like this before. It's either an issue with the patch or something going on with the servers.
momshotdad
Member
Played the new map a couple of times. I really like it.
Man those bear traps are hard to see...kind of weird that neither Twitch's drone nor Thatcher's EMP grenade disable them. There's a few changes I hope are still coming:
Kapkan glitch (said to be working on it).
Ranked lag (and the inevitable kick). Today it was so bad, I just couldn't play it. In fact, I have yet to complete a ranked game without someone lagging out.
Weapon skins purchases. I hate how it's per gun. If I buy a skin, I should be able to use it one whatever gun I like (probably not going to happen)!
Kapkan glitch (said to be working on it).
Ranked lag (and the inevitable kick). Today it was so bad, I just couldn't play it. In fact, I have yet to complete a ranked game without someone lagging out.
Weapon skins purchases. I hate how it's per gun. If I buy a skin, I should be able to use it one whatever gun I like (probably not going to happen)!
Always-honest
Banned
Yeah, i can't see my own headset icon anymore. I can see the icons of others when they speak though.
Shit. Now i don't really know when mine is on or off.
dreamstation
Member
25k everyone has been saying.
Loving the update. Haven't had a chance to play the new map in multiplayer yet but loving the V Sync option on PS4 and the new menu/loading screen art. Situations and terrorist hunt felt awful before but it's really great now. Tearing sucks but having better responsiveness more than makes up for it imo.
Deaf Spacker
Memb
Weirdly enough the patch notes might have convinced me to finally buy it, that's how you support a game.
Halph n Halph
Member
I spend most of the matches on Kanal wondering where tf I am lol
25k each.
Thank God it's not just me.
Also, I had 4 connection errors last night....the ranked one dropped me from Gold 3 to 2.
Anybody finding the game more buggy now. Or at least 1 major bug. Played for maybe 3 hours last night, and there were about 4 matches where there were black textured character models in the default pose position floating over or in the middle of everyone. And would stay floating after dieing. Made it really hard to hide, and hard to tell where to actually shoot someone. Even if you ducked or proned, the model was still floating above you.
Also seemed I was seeing a lot more lag, and was constantly getting insta killed. Even though I had the lowest or near lowest ping out of everyone. Buddy was seeing the same thing.
Also seemed I was seeing a lot more lag, and was constantly getting insta killed. Even though I had the lowest or near lowest ping out of everyone. Buddy was seeing the same thing.
dugdug
Banned
Anyone else constantly losing connection to games on XB1? I wasn't counting, but, I'd say I lost connection to about half of the games I got into last night. Don't have this problem with either Halo or BO3, which are also in rotation, so, I might have to trade this one in if it keeps up.
Krappadizzle
Member
Seems to be a more console related issue as I played for a few hours yesterday on PC and never saw the black texture models and performance is better than before the patch. I'm seeing about a ~5-10 fps increase across the board.
Frost is an amazing addition to the operator roster. Buck...not so much. Still, I'm loving how balanced the game feels.
Really? I'm actually seeing the new map run worse than the vanilla ones.
it's not an electronic, why would an emp grenade do anything to a bear trap?
Buck is absolutely fantastic.
His shotgun is insanely lethal and being able to use him for sniping as well as close combat, with a crazy damage/accurate shotgun that reloads faster than an assault rifle is....just awesome.
paperspace
Member
The Season Pass is so damn stupid. I can't believe this is a thing.
Anton Sugar
Member
You should be happy it's a thing, considering it's probably a funding/revenue source for additional content.
Caayn
Member
I'm really happy that the Season Pass for R6S is as it is.
No gameplay content is locked behind, so that it doesn't splinter the community. More companies should follow this route imo.
paperspace
Member
Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. It's good that they don't separate the community by charging for maps or anything like that, but the Season Pass quite literally builds on made up value. They made an unnecessary gap between the Season Pass-players and the standard players. A loss for both sides.
Just take a look at how they are trying to sell this thing.
- "2 extra daily challenges" isn't even accurate. It only adds 2 more slots, which isn't useful at all.
- "5% Renown boost" is what it is, not a big deal. Things like this shouldn't exist at all, but when they're giving you this it's like a middle finger to everyone; fuck the economic system in the game & fuck your value. Not something I'd want from a Season Pass for $35.
- "NEW OPERATORS" is true for everyone.
- "7-day exclusive access to 8 all-new Operators" is a made up advantage, and is silly at best. Doesn't mean all that much.
- "600 R6 Credits" is basically nothing, esp. considering what you're paying for the Season Pass.
- "6 PREMIUM WEAPON SKINS" is the only thing that holds actual value, which also could've been sold separately.
The Season Pass is practically 6 skins for $35. To me, that's not a great way to monetize a multiplayer game. In fact, it's a terrible way.
The Season Pass is basically
Ubisoft: "Everyone has a season pass, so make one"
Devs: "We don't want to split the community at all"
Ubisoft: "Ok, fine, but we still want a season pass, just do SOMETHING with it."
Devs: "Ok. We also don't want any pay to win."
Ubisoft: "Alright fine, just make any season pass and any microtransactions. We don't care anymore so long as there is something like that in it."
Devs: "Alright, we'll make them as useless as possible though!"
Ubisoft "Whatever"
And then we got this.
Ubisoft: "Everyone has a season pass, so make one"
Devs: "We don't want to split the community at all"
Ubisoft: "Ok, fine, but we still want a season pass, just do SOMETHING with it."
Devs: "Ok. We also don't want any pay to win."
Ubisoft: "Alright fine, just make any season pass and any microtransactions. We don't care anymore so long as there is something like that in it."
Devs: "Alright, we'll make them as useless as possible though!"
Ubisoft "Whatever"
And then we got this.
Anton Sugar
Member
Yeah, it's the least "essential" Season Pass there is if you're a regular player. I can see players picking it up for the R6 credits (that's a couple XP boosters right there) and access to Operators, though.
PeskyToaster
Member
God forbid a company pay for at least a year of post launch support in the most consumer friendly way possible.
so then what should the season pass be? because anything else seems like it would split up the community
AgentOtaku
Member
Well, glad to hear I'm not the only one who noticed. Doesn't do it in Situations or TH mode...
You forgot the 200 000 renown you don't need to use to buy the operators. For some, like me, it was the main draw of the season pass.
Nah, I just multiplied by 8.
grandwizard
Member
And from the other side:
*Season pass offers exclusive content that splits the community and basically requires you to buy it to keep up to date with the game*
Gamers: Developer is ripping us off! Nickel and diming us on a full price game!
Dev: Okay so
*Season pass offers bonus stuff that is not gameplay crucial and does not split the community, actual new content ends up being free for everyone anyway*
Gamers: Season pass is a ripoff! Bad value!
You can't win.
GametimeUK
Member
Free DLC is awesome! Have the connectivity issues been fixed? I have been kind of obsessed with the thought of buying this on my PS4.
0ptimusPayne
Member
Exactly. Id rather put up with the small few vocal gamers complaining about the "value" of something you ABSOLUTELY don't have to buy to get all the important content in the game, than to pay an extra $30 on top of my $60 investment just so I can use new crucial content going forward. I say let them be salty, i'll take my free post launch content thank you..
Ahh yeah the Jesus pose...saw that twice last night...before I got disconnected (on PS4).
Shit forgot it's not electronic....oops! How many bullets does it take to kill the trap?
Anton Sugar
Member
Yeah, I used a $10 gift card to drop the price to a more reasonable $20 for me.
magwizsorc
Member
The new map is a little crazy, but I'm really liking it.
thats less worth it because it goes by real time and not game time.
Simo
Member
Shoot them?
I think Kapkan is better from what I saw. Frost only has 2 traps from the looks of it too. The Frost players I encountered last night with me or against me were pretty terrible though, like they kept placing the traps in plain view and never got anybody.
You shoot them.
Frost is different to Kapkan, not better.
She has a great Shotgun and 2/2 armor/speed.
Her traps work fantasticly for securing windows.
Kapkan is a 3/1 armor/speed, meaning he takes more punishment in a firefight.
His SMG is pretty sweet.
His traps work better on doors inside the buildings and the explosions can kill multiple people.
Both are viable.
Both in a team together turn a building in a trap fortress while they roam around and flank you.
Frost has three traps.
Here is a little video I made today giving some small tips for Frost's traps I discovered with a friend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j3iQCq5P8A
paperspace
Member
Why should there be a Season Pass at all?
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I'd love for this game to be alive 6 months into the future, and it doesn't look like they have the competence to pull that off honestly. It looks more and more like a cautious cash grab than anything else.
Yeah, that's another made up wall they had to create to boost the incentive to buy a useless Season Pass. As I said, a loss for everyone, since it will separate the community anyway, although temporarily.
Meh, they have to keep paying devs for post launch stuff somehow.
You also have a weird definition of community split, because I see none in Siege.
Krappadizzle
Member
Nicely done. Excellent music choice.
StriKeVillain
Banned
This thread made me buy the game on PC. Reading up and learning as much as I can (also purchases a way for my mic to work on my PC).
I got to play my first match earlier and it was immediately on the new Yacht map. It was fun, but we lost. More learning...
I got to play my first match earlier and it was immediately on the new Yacht map. It was fun, but we lost. More learning...
paperspace
Member
Of course, but there are certainly better ways to do it.
Community split = when only a certain group of players have access to a specific set of maps/modes.
Naturally, after this 7 day delay, you have to pay the credits/renown required in order to access these maps which kind of creates a new barrier for these communities.
What exactly are you talking about?
Everyone has access to all maps and modes IMMEDIATELY.
Season pass holders get the OPERATORS 7 days early.
That's it.
Please :-*
paperspace
Member
Yeah, I was thinking of something else, sorry.
0ptimusPayne
Member
What are you talking about? For the last time the community does not get split in this game..There is nothing stoping you from unlocking everything the season pass buyers can get(Maps/Operators), outside of some cosmetics that do absolutely nothing to alter the game..Theres a season pass to keep the payroll going for people churning in hours updating and play testing post launch, you don't have to buy it..
draughn101
Member
I think overall this was a good patch. Kudos to them. I am getting the black weapon with Thermite, Ash, and Twitch.