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Wait, not even water during the day? I thought it was just no food.

Thank allah that islam isnt that strong in antartica. Long summer days ahoy.
 
Happy Ramadan everyone.

Just a question about fasting...

Is it permissible for water to touch the tongue as long as you don't swallow it? Or is water not supposed to enter the mouth at all? I always thought it was the latter, but my friend told me today that the former is true.
 
well Lazy as u know we have to pray 5 times a day and in order to pray we need to purify ourselves each time we pray. to do that we need water to touch our tongue....while not letting it go down the throat. u are allowed to brush ur teeth.
 
I'm really not being flippant when I ask this, but what about a person who works the night shift?

If you're asleep during most of the day, it can't be that hard to fast sunrise to sunset.
 
Spastic Colon said:
I'm really not being flippant when I ask this, but what about a person who works the night shift?

If you're asleep during most of the day, it can't be that hard to fast sunrise to sunset.
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When the traditions were set down, there was no such thing as a night shift anywhere. That was a new concept of the early 20th century which came with electricity...
 
sonarrat said:
When the traditions were set down, there was no such thing as a night shift anywhere. That was a new concept of the early 20th century which came with electricity...
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Yeah...so do they alter the rules for night owls?
 
Spastic Colon said:
Yeah...so do they alter the rules for night owls?
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Don't think so, but it's an interesting questions. But I don't think the night shift thing only came about with the advent of electricity, what about guards in the 7th century who had to be up all night?
 
Spastic Colon said:
Yeah...so do they alter the rules for night owls?
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The answer probably lies in the reason for fasting during the sunlight hours... I'll get on Wikipedia and see what I can dig up.
 
Wikipedia said:
The Islamic calendar is a lunar calendar, and months begin when the first crescent of a new moon is sighted.
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So the importance of the moon to Islamic culture is one factor.

All Muslims insist on the local physical sighting of the moon [prior to feasting].

The date known as the Night of Power (Laylat al-Qadr) falls on one of the last ten nights of Ramadan, most likely on one of the odd nights, especially the 27th night of the month. The Qur'an states that this night is better than a thousand months, and some Muslims spend the entire night in prayer.
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It doesn't seem like the "Day of Power" would have the same meaning.

Integrated into the Ramadan season is also a sense of community. Many mosques will sponsor iftar (literally: break fast) meals after sundown for the community to come and end their day's fasting as a whole. It is also common for such meals to take place at Muslim soup kitchens. Extra optional prayers, called tarawih are prayed each night in the mosque during Ramadan as well. These are encouraged.
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The communal aspect is probably the key here. If some people are celebrating during the day and some during the night, then it would probably just cause unnecessary divisions. The fact that night owls would not change their habits substantially seems to be a minor concern, at best.
 
I can go a day without food and water easily. I have many times. It is actually refreshing.

Question, how much weight do most people lose?
 
generally people maintain about the same weight.

i know i do, and most everyone i know does as well. i haven't actually heard of people using ramadan as a time to lose massive ammounts of weight.

Ramadan Mubarak to everyone as well..
 
kgHavok23 said:
generally people maintain about the same weight.

i know i do, and most everyone i know does as well. i haven't actually heard of people using ramadan as a time to lose massive ammounts of weight.

Ramadan Mubarak to everyone as well..
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When I had my wisdom teeth out, I was unable to keep anything down for 48 hours straight. I lost 10 pounds, which was almost disastrous for me because I started at 135. o.O But that was complete fasting. Ramadan is fairly tame by comparison and only carries health risks for pregnant women, the ill, etc.. and they are exempted.
 
ok welll wisdom teeth and pregnant women are like...exceptions?

i was just answering his question which I thought was referring to like...generally ....
 
Spastic Colon said:
I'm really not being flippant when I ask this, but what about a person who works the night shift?

If you're asleep during most of the day, it can't be that hard to fast sunrise to sunset.
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well i mean there is nothing against that....in fact that makes it much easier. i wouldnt mind that.
 
Im fasting too. Its the second day now with 3 hours to go. It was a lot easier than yesterday. The first day is always really difficult afetr that its still difficult, just not as much.

Im not sure how many of you know this, but Ramadan isnt just about starving yourself, there are many other things that cant be done during fasting hours. You cant smoke, you shouldnt cant swear and you cant do anything sexually even if you are married. Doing any of those things is like eating and you break your fast.

Ive never managed to fast everyday of ramadan before and Ive been doing it since I was 9. Hopefully, this year I can do it :D
 
Instigator said:
It still sucks for tourists and secular natives.
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I'm sure if there are enough of them some resturants will remain open for business. I mean during Ramadan everyone still cooks and everything. It's just that you can't eat the food until sunset. Also I'm pretty sure some resturants open at sunset for business.
 
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I assume restaurants are closed during the day in Muslim countries.
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No not all restaurants close down. It depends on the restaurant's business, if its actually profitable for them to open during the day and also if the employees are fasting then it might be difficult for them to work.
 
Instigator said:
I assume restaurants are closed during the day in Muslim countries.
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Yup, they are. I live in Dubai and all restaurants are closed until iftar (the time that muslims can break their fast) Thee also very strict rules about eating in public places. If you are caught eating in public you get in a lot of trouble and rightly so.

As for tourists, it does suck a lot since you cant eat anywhere else apart from the hotel. The hotel serves food normally, but they dont serve alcohol during fasting hours.
 
psycho_snake said:
Yup, they are. I live in Dubai and all restaurants are closed until iftar (the time that muslims can break their fast) Thee also very strict rules about eating in public places. If you are caught eating in public you get in a lot of trouble and rightly so.

As for tourists, it does suck a lot since you cant eat anywhere else apart from the hotel. The hotel serves food normally, but they dont serve alcohol during fasting hours.
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Ah Dubai is different. I guess it also depends on the country and the laws it has.
 
Firest0rm said:
Ah Dubai is different. I guess it also depends on the country and the laws it has.
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Probably, Dubai is pretty strict on it. The only restaurants that are open are fast foos restaurants, but they only serve people by drive thru, no one is allowed to sit in the restaurant and eat there. Where do you live firest0rm?
 
psycho_snake said:
Probably, Dubai is pretty strict on it. The only restaurants that are open are fast foos restaurants, but they only serve people by drive thru, no one is allowed to sit in the restaurant and eat there. Where do you live firest0rm?
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I live in Canada, but I lived for 12 years in Jordan.
 
psycho_snake said:
Yup, they are. I live in Dubai and all restaurants are closed until iftar (the time that muslims can break their fast) Thee also very strict rules about eating in public places. If you are caught eating in public you get in a lot of trouble and rightly so.

As for tourists, it does suck a lot since you cant eat anywhere else apart from the hotel. The hotel serves food normally, but they dont serve alcohol during fasting hours.
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I don't remember there being laws against eating in public when I was in Dubai. It was considered bad manners and nobody really did it but I don't think there were laws against it.

Also most of my Muslim friends weren't that bothered if we ate in front of them, not that we did though, 'cause we didn't want to be twats about it, but they were always saying "if you want to eat, go ahead".

And not to be flippant as well, but I loved Ramadan, 'cause school started late and finished early during it. We only had about 4 houts a day.
 
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