Grand Theft Scratchy
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Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart weighs in at a nimble 33GB
PlayStation 5 exclusive Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart weighs in at a nimble 33GB.
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Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart weighs in at a nimble 33GB, "sizes are getting smaller on native PS5 games"
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I'm starting to think that M2 port on the bottom of the PS5 will become as useful as the parallel port on the original PlayStation.
Andodalf
Banned
Vita mystery port 2.0
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
I'm very impressed with how much space these games are taking up. I'll probably never have to get an expansion ssd.
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Elder Legend
Banned
That's very impressive considering Knack was like over 40 GBs or something on the PS4 and far less advanced in terms of what it could do.
Knack clocked in at 37 GB for those who do not know. Meanwhile, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart is at 33 GB.
Knack clocked in at 37 GB for those who do not know. Meanwhile, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart is at 33 GB.
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Astral Dog
Member
That means the game is gonna be short and shitty 
should been at least 80GB
should been at least 80GB
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
It is puzzling what is holding them back, what the pacing item is (lots of guesses thrown at the wall), but at least is pushing them to push devs to reduce the install size.
I am not sure what is happening with multiplatforms on XSX|S though, according to some it is because to make the cause of people that bought the pricey memory card add-on to play across XSX and XSS without downloading additional assets (which is an edge case) which contributes to people needing more space and this the card itself. Then again, I am not sure if it is correct, but this is not the theory Sony fans came up with either
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Elder Legend
Banned
Like that ugly pug of yours in your avatar? Yeah, really ugly ass, short and shitty dogs. Just like you.That means the game is gonna be short and shitty
On a serious note - I think it's just well optimized.
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I really hope it is just amazing compression and not like 6 to 8 hours long for 70 quid. But my memory serves that they are usually 12 to 15 hours?
kinjx11
Banned
there's a day1 update which should be a big one, it includes performance mode and photo mode so i think the game should be 40gb+ in size which is still small tbh
My bet is on the cut-scenes videos compression, for example Nvidia's shadowplay can capture a 30minutes 4k 60fps @ 60mbps h264 and the video file would result in just 9gb, PS5 could be using WebM/AV1 in the game to save space then use the audio engine to upscale the audio files to High resolution with ease and that is common in android phones recently, if i remember correctly MGS4 was huge back in the day because of the video/audio files not the game's textures
My bet is on the cut-scenes videos compression, for example Nvidia's shadowplay can capture a 30minutes 4k 60fps @ 60mbps h264 and the video file would result in just 9gb, PS5 could be using WebM/AV1 in the game to save space then use the audio engine to upscale the audio files to High resolution with ease and that is common in android phones recently, if i remember correctly MGS4 was huge back in the day because of the video/audio files not the game's textures
Mr Moose
Member
Might already have the day one patch included, can someone check their digital preload what version it is currently?
I don't think they use videos for cutscenes.
Arun1910
Member
What I found most impressive after reading this was that Miles Morales on Ps5 is 25% smaller than than PS4 version thanks to compression. I guess PS5 only titles will stay a reasonable size. Maybe that small hard drive they included relative to new game sizes isn’t that small after all
kinjx11
Banned
Mine is something like 1.000.007
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
There’s always a method to the well thought out design madness.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
It is puzzling what is holding them back, what the pacing item is (lots of guesses thrown at the wall), but at least is pushing them to push devs to reduce the install size.
I am not sure what is happening the the multiplatform son XSX|S, according to some it is because to make the cause of people that bought the pricey memory card add-on to play across XSX and XSS without downloading additional assets (which is an edge case) which contributes to people needing more space and this the card itself. Then again, I am not sure if it is correct, but this is not the theory Sony fans came up with either
Yup, when PS5 games enjoy 30% size difference on average compared to X|S you don't really need to be bitching about extra storage that often.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
v 1.000.007
Md Ray
Member
ethomaz
Banned
Cutscenes are real-time.
There is no pre recorded video.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Yup, when PS5 games enjoy 30% size difference on average compared to X|S you don't really need to be bitching about extra storage that often.
or when add ons are availed your don’t need to think of it at all.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I know right, using a brain is hard. Don’t think, consooooom.
DaleinCalgary
Member
I agree with that except the vast majority of games we play will be cross platform 3rd party and they wont really care - see COD
They still need to get that expansion bay going asap
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
just added a 2nd 2tb to my pc, it’s wonderful not having to pick and choose what to install.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
It's like when someone tells you if you have a corolla you can drive for 700km/miles with 40 liters of petrol, then a smart guy says that his HD truck can do that with 200 liters tank.
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Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
So when they drop the list of Ps5 compatible SSDs you aren’t going to upgrade?It's like when someone tells you if you have a corolla you can drive for 700km/miles with 40 liters of petrol, then a smart guy says that his HD truck can do that with 200 liter tank.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yeah, I love that about my PC, but also, gone are the days I packrat dust collecting storage space in games I “will someday play again if ever.” I just keep installed what is in actual rotation now. Life is simpler that way.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Why would I if I don't need to? I can download the games again within minutes, no internet caps, and that's in worst case scenario. Still ~200GB available on my SSD.
ethomaz
Banned
Most crossplatform releases has smaller size on PS5.
It is already on PS5 SDK when you do the package… it is not that hard to use it is like automatically.
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Arun1910
Member
Only for now. I think in a few years cross gen support will die out.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Yeah I got current games and my favs installed from years past. You are right no real need for it, more like a luxury option.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Nice, have fast internet (900ish mbps) and no data caps here still to slow for my taste and I pay a fortune for it. it does work well with all the video streaming my home uses but waiting 20-30 mins to play a game isn’t for me.
DaleinCalgary
Member
Thats good to know, learned something today
Bo_Hazem
Banned
You can play something while it's downloading? Also it can be 7-11min in some games with just 200Mbps for initial start: (not my screenshot, just an example)
Anyway, options are always welcome. I had 2TB on my PS4/Pro and never saturated those, even when I only had 16Mbps (uncapped as well, all ADSL/Fiber are uncapped here anyway except 4/5G) for years and fully digital.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I usually open the app and click download when I’m at work or the like, ready and waiting when I get home. Man tech has come a long way, wasn’t too long ago we were bitching about the Steam Trojan horsed into HL2 and complaining as we installed and played it, lmao.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
You can play something while it's downloading? Also it can be 7-11min in some games with just 200Mbps for initial start: (not my screenshot, just an example)
Anyway, options are always welcome. I had 2TB on my PS4/Pro and never saturated those, even when I only had 16Mbps (uncapped as well, all ADSL/Fiber are uncapped here anyway except 4/5G) for years and fully digital.
sadly for some reason I usally have shit connections with MS and Sony servers, rarely over 40mbps if that. Can take all night to download a hand full of games. Steam/epic usually max out though.
I always end up with more storage then I need, rather have and not use them need and not have type of guy. If something is above 50% used I get the shivers lol.
digital_ghost
Member
Hopefully it also means smaller epeen size comparisions.
Md Ray
Member
For someone like me who lives in a small rural village, moving from 2Mbps to 100Mbps (not too long ago) was like a godsend lol. And just switched to unlimited data like two days ago...
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nowhat
Member
Just you wait when you're finally able to score a PS5. I was completely blown away by a) the app gives notification when a game is playable, b) the app gives a notification when a game has been completely loaded, and c) if don't have enough space on your console, you can remove games from the app. The first time I was able to do this felt more next-gen than any game so far.
ethomaz
Banned
I believe only the launch multiplatforms like CoD did have that big size… after all games released had smaller size on PS5.Thats good to know, learned something today
It was a constant talk in technical threads.
For example Village is way smaller on PS5.
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ethomaz
Banned
If that is the case your IPS is making it slow… talk with them.
There are several IPS that filter downloads to try to economize bandwidth lol
It is illegal btw.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Are we sure Sony/MS don’t have capped uploads? Or are they uncapped now like Steam?
ethomaz
Banned
Well I’m not sure but I can reach the max of my IPS contract… 250Mbps with PSN servers.
So at least Sony is not capping below 250Mbps.
BTW that is download my upload I believe is 100Mbps max but I rarely check if it is using it all on PS5 or not.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Me neither. Not upgrading the internal storage any time soon, if ever. The 825 GB really is more than enough in most cases, especially with my 4TB HDD that I use for cold storage.
I can store 8-10 games in PS5 internal storage, and I hardly play more than 3 at a time. If I need to swap a game, I connect and use the external HDD.