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RE4 Remake is visually underwhelming
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MrJangles
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Madflavor
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I'm gonna be completely honest here. I use to argue that both the Original and Remake can co-exist, because they're both great. I tried replaying the Original last year, and it just made me want to replay the Remake instead. Don't know if that's sacrilegious, but the Remake really shined a light on how absolutely goofy RE4 was. I think for it's time a lot of it's corny elements worked, such as Salazar, the Codec taunting between Leon and the Villains, the constant one liners, but 20 years later I don't feel like it's aged completely well. I think the Village sections of the original are still brilliant, but as soon as you enter the castle and Mr. "Eeeheeeheeeehaaha MR. KENNEDAY!" walks into frame, it becomes a different game.
I get the goofy elements of the original is why some people love it, or even prefer it over the Remake, but I appreciate how much more consistent RE4R feels to RE2R with it's tone and Leon's character. The original RE4 starts off as a atmospheric and creepy survival horror game, and then becomes an action cornballfest for the rest of the game as soon as you enter the castle. But RE4R manages to keep it's horror elements for a lot longer, I feel.
I don't expect everyone to agree, this is just my take.
I get the goofy elements of the original is why some people love it, or even prefer it over the Remake, but I appreciate how much more consistent RE4R feels to RE2R with it's tone and Leon's character. The original RE4 starts off as a atmospheric and creepy survival horror game, and then becomes an action cornballfest for the rest of the game as soon as you enter the castle. But RE4R manages to keep it's horror elements for a lot longer, I feel.
I don't expect everyone to agree, this is just my take.
lame gag1990
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The lack of invincibility frames, enemies constantly grabbing you from off screen, breakable knives are pointless (just have 1 knife and be done with it), bullet sponge enemies, bullets lacking any impact like the original (shooting in the face, leg). The voice acting is worse than the original, the new El Gigante constantly throwing rocks boss battle is actually boring, the music is worse. These are just things I can remember off the top of my head. Yeah, "terrible tastes". This remake is an ok game at best, nothing spectacular. OG RE4 shits on it from great heights. Can you back up that I have terrible taste with anything good apart from visuals?
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Madflavor
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"Oh no, I can't abuse the game mechanics by leaping over a ledge or kicking in doors anymore!"
Skill issue. Can easily happen in the Original as well.
It's not pointless, it's designed to be a resource for defense. If the knife was unbreakable, the parry system would be too OP of a defense mechanic.
In a Resident Evil game!? No fucking way dude...
Agreed to extent, but some voice actors in the Remake, such as the ones for Luis and Ashley, definitely do better than their originals.
I don't understand how you can think this when the remake version has a wider move set. And no he doesn't constantly throw rocks.
Anyway, all of this is to say your taste is da poop.
Hawk The Slayer
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I like it more than the original RE4R simply due to the controls being able to shoot and move and I like the movement more. Was my GOTY for 2023, Still like the original RE1-RE3, RE1 Remake to RE3 Remake more as I'm more into the slower pace of horror and enjoyed the virus type of enemies more than Plaga.
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PurePlatinum
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You're out of your mind. In terms of pure fidelity, yeah maybe it's not the absolute top-of-class game, but it makes up for it with the great performance and fluidity of RE-Engine, and excellent Capcom art direction.
There are very few character models that look as good as Leon and Ada in this game.
There are very few character models that look as good as Leon and Ada in this game.
Generic
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The enemies in the original RE4 weren't bullet sponges.
Madflavor
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You're right, they were easy as shit. Every single headshot in the original game staggers them, and it's easy to pull off a headshot due to how slow they are. The strategy for every fight in the original is Headshot -> Kick, Headshot -> Kick, Headshot -> Kick.
The developers of the Remake gave way more depth and challenge to the combat. Not every headshot rewards you with a stragger. You knife is now a resource on whether you want to parry, stealth kill, or stop an enemy from evolving. There are far more enemies on screen now. They have different tactics. They have different ways of attacking you. There is more variety in how combat plays out in the Remake. They made the enemies tougher and smarter, so fans didn't go into the game with the same Headshot -> Kick mentality, thinking they were going to easily conquer the game from the get go.
But some people want to boil it down to "boollet thhsponges!"
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Soodanim
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It's clear the devs wanted to shake up the original's gameplay, but it's about balance and I don't think they quite got it right. For me the game carries too much of 2R/3R's DNA when the game plays nothing like them.
Your argument is that 4 was unbalanced, but 4R overcorrected to the point where my reaction is the opposite of yours. Playing 4R makes me return to the original.
lame gag1990
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BlownUpRich
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What? They were as bullet sponges as can be, there's not even a gore system (aside from the head that counts as instakill) like in RE4 Remake, enemies in Remake you can blow their arms off with the knife or with a powerful gun and they still resist & don't immediately die, but they get preoccupied/staggered with a long animation which rewards the player for good aiming, in OG RE4 they flail around left & right left & right, it is awesome, but that is in its time honestly.
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VAVA Mk2
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Why are you laughing? He is right. PS5 Pro is good, but it still won't outdo a 4070 series card or higher.
The Electric Underground made a good video about it. I prefer RE4 original gameplay.
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Madflavor
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All this talk has made me crave replaying RE4R. I just had a moment where I threw a frag grenade, and a village threw his axe at the same time. The grenade and axe collided with each other mid hair and both bounced back to us, exploding in my face. I've never seen anything like. Goddamn I love this game!
lame gag1990
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I might check that out. Thanks.
ToneyJ
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nailed it. I still enjoyed the remake, but the original is a much tighter and better arcadey action experience. Also the new Ada voice actress is horrendous and they shoulda got the RE5 Wesker actor back.
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lame gag1990
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I agree. I didn't like any of the voice actors. Zero charisma.
Madflavor
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Ada's voice actor is the only thing I find definitively worse than the original. I don't know what they were thinking with that one, the RE2R VA was just fine.
That said, visually she's the hottest version of Ada we've gotten imo.
Soapbox Killer
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I played on SteamDeck so may be disqualified but I thought it looked good on there.
It lacked some of the grit of the OG game in the wooded areas if that makes sense but overall a pleasing game to look at.
It lacked some of the grit of the OG game in the wooded areas if that makes sense but overall a pleasing game to look at.