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maaaaaan. I get Jon and Steven at 8 for some reason but that's about it.

Comcast! :shakes fist: I would switch to satellite but I've been told there are too many enormous trees around my house. eh, I prefer the trees.

stealth brag, damn right
 
Thanks. I'll skim then jump there. And, I think RP can handle a serious debate. I know you mentioned before in the older thread that you were curious to see whether or not we could handle a more contentious topic, and I think we can. Civility is this thread's strong point (apart from the lovely general social aspect) and that's what you really need in a discussion.

Well you know I'm always up for a good debate, and I believe most everyone here can be rational, logical thinkers.

The problem with debates on a forum is that I end up writing walls of texts, illustrating every point with anecdotal or linked evidence, and either the person I was debating doesn't respond or if they do sometimes it's "k well thats ur opinion". Bleh!

But I still like getting that stuff off my mind in a topic, it's liberating in its own way
 
The problem with debates on a forum is that I end up writing walls of texts, illustrating every point with anecdotal or linked evidence, and either the person I was debating doesn't respond or if they do sometimes it's "k well thats ur opinion". Bleh!

Hate this so much. So much.

I think a lot of folks are convinced that they will fall over dead if they concede that an opponent in an internet debate made a good point.
 
Lunch time, GAF!

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Tuna on toast and chips with some Pepsi to drink. :eek:
 

Chuckie

Member
CET is best time.

Anyway...today the first snow of this winter fell... and this was me waiting for a train in the cold..

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....appearantly I left it in the car of my mate.
 

Davedough

Member
Ok. Debate this point:

**Disclaimer: this is not as chauvinistic as it may seem. Men have many faults just as women, but its merely an observation**

Relationships - Relationships work because of one simple rule.

All women are crazy. If they find a man that has a tolerance threshold large enough to handle their amount of crazy, then the relationship works, lasts and becomes a beautiful thing. If the tolerance level of the man for her crazy cannot be met, then thats what leads to things like infidelity, divorce, abuse, masturbating alone on the couch without clearing history, etc.
 

Lissar

Reluctant Member
HI LISSAR HOW ARE YOU THIS MORNING

*honks car horn*

DDDD:

maaaaaan. I get Jon and Steven at 8 for some reason but that's about it.

Comcast! :shakes fist: I would switch to satellite but I've been told there are too many enormous trees around my house. eh, I prefer the trees.

stealth brag, damn right

My parents usually watch them at 8 too.

I don't even have basic cable hooked up because I don't watch anything on TV.

My time gets sucked away enough by games as it is D:
 
I'm mixed on it.

Porn is harmless to a relationship and can actually be quite fun if shared between the two partners... and should be within reason.

BUT, women who get upset about men who watch porn and masturbate instead of being with them, need to put their woman-ness feelings down for a second and try to examine why. There's a reason why the man is doing that; maybe he feels something is lacking or there's a desire that is not being fulfilled. He doesn't intend on cheating on you, still loves you dearly (usually), but is either not confident enough, or too complacent in his life to try and ask you (the female) to change your ways to satisfy him... its just easier to relieve a little stress with a 5 minute toss job.

Without being condescending or awkward about it, the couple needs to talk about what is not right in the relationship and reach a comfortable medium as to what they can do to remedy it. If that medium cannot be found, which sometimes it cant, then it needs to be understand that every now and again, that man is going to rub one out.

The women that get upset about it think with their estrogen. Men aren't wired the same emotionally. There is no emotional attachment to that as a woman suggests, so the idea of "cheating" isn't even an issue. Its more of an issue of working off pent up frustration, relieving stress or just simply, because it feels good to play with it and he was all alone. Men are visual by nature, so watching someone do things they enjoy is the easiest way to get aroused.

For me, this has nothing to do with it. I love my gf very much and never want to do anything to hurt her nor do I feel like any desire of mine is not being fulfilled. I don't care to go out and try to have sex with another woman. When we have sex, it is fantastic and I love it. When I come home from work... well... I just want to nut. That's it. So I do. Simple as that haha.
 
All women are crazy. If they find a man that has a tolerance threshold large enough to handle their amount of crazy, then the relationship works, lasts and becomes a beautiful thing.

If you switched the genders in this proposed scenario it would describe my relationship quite well. Just sayin'.
 

Karl2177

Member
Ok. Debate this point:

**Disclaimer: this is not as chauvinistic as it may seem. Men have many faults just as women, but its merely an observation**

Relationships - Relationships work because of one simple rule.

All women are crazy. If they find a man that has a tolerance threshold large enough to handle their amount of crazy, then the relationship works, lasts and becomes a beautiful thing. If the tolerance level of the man for her crazy cannot be met, then thats what leads to things like infidelity, divorce, abuse, masturbating alone on the couch without clearing history, etc.

Woman cheats on man; woman's crazy level at maximum or guy's lack of tolerance?

Also much thanks to Tence for the new avatar. :D
 

RawPower

Banned
Ok. Debate this point:

**Disclaimer: this is not as chauvinistic as it may seem. Men have many faults just as women, but its merely an observation**

Relationships - Relationships work because of one simple rule.

All women are crazy. If they find a man that has a tolerance threshold large enough to handle their amount of crazy, then the relationship works, lasts and becomes a beautiful thing. If the tolerance level of the man for her crazy cannot be met, then thats what leads to things like infidelity, divorce, abuse, masturbating alone on the couch without clearing history, etc.

You just opened Pandora's Box. No woman could out-crazy me, btw.
 

Davedough

Member
Right before they reprint it, hm? Interesting choice... ;)
How much did you end up shelling out for it?

Nothing. I've spent too much time at the evil conglomerate that is Gamestop. I have over $250 in credit at that place to bend at my whim. When I walk into a store, I simply point and they obey.
$20

I didn't know they're going to reprint it. I have an old DSi and really no interest in the 3DS, so I dont even know if I could use the reprint.
 
I totally think we could, what I mean to say is I posted about 50 times in that thread so I'm just done talking about it is all, don't let me stop you guys if that's the way it goes ;)

Oh. Haha. A good point then. We'll have some other meaty debate soon then. ;)

Well you know I'm always up for a good debate, and I believe most everyone here can be rational, logical thinkers.

The problem with debates on a forum is that I end up writing walls of texts, illustrating every point with anecdotal or linked evidence, and either the person I was debating doesn't respond or if they do sometimes it's "k well thats ur opinion". Bleh!

But I still like getting that stuff off my mind in a topic, it's liberating in its own way

Argh, yeah I hate that. A well thought-out, elucidated point, painstakingly reinforced... that's ignored. Kills ya every time. It's also hard to engage in debates here just for the sheer amount of time it takes to properly have one. I can post sporadically on more inconsequential topics (as I do) and still get my job done, but a real issue is harder because I can't dedicate the time to satisfactorily arguing my position. Ah well.
 

Lissar

Reluctant Member
Ok. Debate this point:

**Disclaimer: this is not as chauvinistic as it may seem. Men have many faults just as women, but its merely an observation**

Relationships - Relationships work because of one simple rule.

All women are crazy. If they find a man that has a tolerance threshold large enough to handle their amount of crazy, then the relationship works, lasts and becomes a beautiful thing. If the tolerance level of the man for her crazy cannot be met, then thats what leads to things like infidelity, divorce, abuse, masturbating alone on the couch without clearing history, etc.

Typically, it isn't a good idea to state any point by using the word "all", as there are very often exceptions.

And apparently I'm almost depressingly rational. I was only crazy in my younger years, but who wasn't?

I can't make any generalizing points about men, since all the ones I've met and know well have been so wildly different from one another. Same goes for my opinion of women, though.
 

Davedough

Member
Woman cheats on man; woman's crazy level at maximum or guy's lack of tolerance?

Also much thanks to Tence for the new avatar. :D

Most often than not, a woman cheats on a man because she's not fulfilling something she needs in the relationship, so she's gone somewhere else. He's not attending to her needs either because he's an idiot and dull to what makes her "her" or he just doesn't care. Either way, that relationship was doomed.
 
Ok. Debate this point:

**Disclaimer: this is not as chauvinistic as it may seem. Men have many faults just as women, but its merely an observation**

Relationships - Relationships work because of one simple rule.

All women are crazy. If they find a man that has a tolerance threshold large enough to handle their amount of crazy, then the relationship works, lasts and becomes a beautiful thing. If the tolerance level of the man for her crazy cannot be met, then thats what leads to things like infidelity, divorce, abuse, masturbating alone on the couch without clearing history, etc.

-_-

For me, this has nothing to do with it. I love my gf very much and never want to do anything to hurt her nor do I feel like any desire of mine is not being fulfilled. I don't care to go out and try to have sex with another woman. When we have sex, it is fantastic and I love it. When I come home from work... well... I just want to nut. That's it. So I do. Simple as that haha.

Yup. Sometimes it's just an outlet, no hidden meaning or intent.
 

Kinitari

Black Canada Mafia
Ok. Debate this point:

**Disclaimer: this is not as chauvinistic as it may seem. Men have many faults just as women, but its merely an observation**

Relationships - Relationships work because of one simple rule.

All women are crazy. If they find a man that has a tolerance threshold large enough to handle their amount of crazy, then the relationship works, lasts and becomes a beautiful thing. If the tolerance level of the man for her crazy cannot be met, then thats what leads to things like infidelity, divorce, abuse, masturbating alone on the couch without clearing history, etc.

Can you give some examples of crazy? Or expand on what you mean by 'crazy'?

edit:

Specifically, I would say - all people are irrational at varying degrees, it's just that women are conditioned to more readily share their irrationality, and men to hide it. But if we were to somehow be 'objective' there would be plenty of relationships where men hold entirely irrational positions at a more frequent rate then their spouses.
 
Well, I accomplished something today. Sent out another job application.

I'm going to play some basketball and run around the Rose Bowl. Love running with the MILFs of Pasadena
 
Relationships - Relationships work because of one simple rule.

All women are crazy. If they find a man that has a tolerance threshold large enough to handle their amount of crazy, then the relationship works, lasts and becomes a beautiful thing. If the tolerance level of the man for her crazy cannot be met, then thats what leads to things like infidelity, divorce, abuse, masturbating alone on the couch without clearing history, etc.

All women are not crazy, and I have no idea where this idea could have come from. Women, believe it or not, are humans, just as men are humans. I think they are wired differently, yes, therefore we cannot fully understand them as we will never fully share their perspective on things.

But men and women, while very different, must dance around the idea of compromise, and I believe THAT is how a relationship works. A relationship should be one of equality, one of give and take, where each person WANTS to give something to the other because they love them that much.

The thing about guys is that many have short attention spans when it comes to their ladies. They get bored once they get used to seeing their significant others almost every day of their life, and the novelty of sex with them wears thin and the animal sexual attraction is no longer there, therefore men tend to stray as they seek out that pleasure that they are now lacking. This is where porn should come in as a "safe" alternative to well....being a cheating bastard.

Also, you haven't dated crazy until you've dated someone who lies in the middle of the road trying to see how fast they can get themselves killed.

Just saying.

(-_-;)

I dated a girl when I was way younger that would walk out onto a busy street and she kept saying "don't worry, they'll stop for me"...I was like wtf and I just went to the crosswalk and pressed the button. Screw her.
 

Lissar

Reluctant Member
Also, you haven't dated crazy until you've dated someone who lies in the middle of the road trying to see how fast they can get themselves killed.

Just saying.
 

SRG01

Member
Ewwwww... Aren't those the things that can transfer that brain eating fungus...?

Hahaha yeah, it's a rare ameoba that can cause death. Also found in lakes and streams too.

Apparently, it's caused by people not boiling the water before use in their neti pots...



edit: In other news, the internet security policy at my workplace makes zero sense. They are actively filtering out subnets of computers on campus that are accessible by students, and yet are not blocking non-school IPs from accessing those sites. WTF? Not to mention they're implementing it through a cross-site method on HTTPS.
 

Ashes

Banned
CET is best time.

Anyway...today the first snow of this winter fell... and this was me waiting for a train in the cold..

glove.png




....appearantly I left it in the car of my mate.

ha ha.

Last week's writing thread's theme was life between comic panels. I did a few crappy comics for it, but I'm too lazy to go find it now. :p
 

Davedough

Member
Can you give some examples of crazy? Or expand on what you mean by 'crazy'?

Following Lissar's point, I retract my "all" and go with "some"....

Some things:

Irrational NEED to procreate. There are women that feel that there is nothing that they can accomplish in life until they've spawned a seed from their uterus, only to find out after the fact that they don't like children and are horrible parents.... I've seen it happen.

Highly driven by emotion. Allowing jealousy or other negative emotions to reign supreme over rational thought is one example of this. I've been involved with women who would sabotage something I hold dear to me simply because I didn't call them promptly in the morning.

Mind games. Not all do it, but there are those little traps that some to do test your relationship.

The inability to effectively work or interact with another female without judging said female in the process. Even walking down the street, every single woman eyes another up and down and judges every single aspect of their wardrobe, then categorizes and rates their attire by how trashy/slutty/stupid they look all the while instantly ranking themselves either above or below their subject. This spawns into things like some women attempting to work together as a group. In a situation where multiple people are asked to decide on something complex that may elicit differences in opinion, there will always be a woman who rises to the bitchy top and tries to dominate everyone else as the right one.

Those are just a couple off the top of my head. Again, men aren't perfect so its not an us vs them. We're stubborn, thick headed, selfsh man-babies that ask our women to put up with A LOT for. Women are the unsung heroes of a relationship most of the time, I'm just pointing out differences in how genders handle themselves and how those differences mesh with one another.
 
Baby, is this love for real?

So painfully catchy.

Edit: Hoooooooooly shit, missed the conversation again. Fuck this thread.

You so slow, Jason. But if you act now you can get in on Dave's assertion that all women are crazy.

(Sorry, Dave, I'll have to wait for lunch to join in on this and refute this awful statement.)

Hahaha yeah, it's a rare ameoba that can cause death. Also found in lakes and streams too.

Apparently, it's caused by people not boiling the water before use in their neti pots...

Nasty. I'll stick with tissue and leftover wine corks, thanks.
 
Ok. Debate this point:

**Disclaimer: this is not as chauvinistic as it may seem. Men have many faults just as women, but its merely an observation**

Relationships - Relationships work because of one simple rule.

All women are crazy. If they find a man that has a tolerance threshold large enough to handle their amount of crazy, then the relationship works, lasts and becomes a beautiful thing. If the tolerance level of the man for her crazy cannot be met, then thats what leads to things like infidelity, divorce, abuse, masturbating alone on the couch without clearing history, etc.

Men and women are both crazy and the degree to which that differs varies from relationship to relationship.

We all carry our own baggage in to those things. With men, it may manifest itself in different ways, but it's still there. Love means dealing with the totality of the other person's life and experiences and both sides compromising. It's not just about being sane or crazy, it's about being cohesive.
 
I just want to point out that I find that statement somewhat offensive as a crazy person. That's our word dammit. It should not be used to describe distinct differences between the sexes.
 

Davedough

Member
You guys wanted a strong debate to see if the group can handle it. I used strong words and a wide overarching derogative statement to elicit a strong reaction so we can judge our readiness. That is all.
 
Whoops.

I told you guys I was stupid. D:

Damn. I just want to have my own GAF meet up.


How do you feel about internet friendships? Are they real to you?

Yes. I'm pretty fickle; I don't make enough effort to stay in touch with people (friends of all sorts— those geographically close or far; 'real life' or internet), but with the really good ones the time just melts away when we talk.
 

Lissar

Reluctant Member
Here's a topic.

How do you feel about internet friendships? Are they real to you?

I'll put in my 2 cents later.

Of course, as real as any friends I have met offline. I honestly don't see a difference. Just because we can't all go down to the bar to get a drink, doesn't mean we can't interact with each other in other ways. I mean we can video chat, interact with each other via games... I mean I'm a real person, you're a real person... Of course some people choose to think of everyone online as just being no different from computer programs. Which is a strange view to me.
 
While I'm on the subject, you know what movie quote I hate?

"Love means never having to say you're sorry."

If you go in to relationships thinking this is true, that relationship is doomed, plain and simple.

Love does not mean never having to say you're sorry. It means making a mistake and meaning that you're sorry you hurt the other person in some way and them forgiving you. It means forgiving the other person for their mistakes. Obviously there are limits, but being absolute on this is a terrible fucking idea.

Anyone who says that unironically has such a stupidly idealistic idea of love that they'll never attain without some degree of phoniness.
 
Here's a topic.

How do you feel about internet friendships? Are they real to you?

I'll put in my 2 cents later.

Very real, but like long distance relationships they will never be a fully functional one if there is no face to face contact. As humans, we need that kind of connection to effectively have a lasting impression.

I think of internet friendships as strong acquaintances. Like, my clanmates from playing games, some of them I've known for over 10 years, I've hung out with them and we've had a good time and will see them again in the future...but I doubt I would ever invite them to my wedding or talk to them about issues that matter.
 
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