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[Lissar]

The thing about art:

Talent only makes it EASIER but lacking it is not a barrier to success. Those who lack it tend to give up easier, failing before they've really given it their all.

And talent or no talent it still requires WORK. LOTS OF IT. This is a thing that people don't seem to realize with art is just how much work it takes to become decent. You have to train yourself to see and move in a new way and it's HARD. But you can do it through perseverance and effort. Lots of it. Every day for hours. You can't just draw once and awhile and decide you aren't any good at it. It simply doesn't work that way.

I have talent, yes, but my first efforts were awful too. I have probably spent nearly as many hours being unsatisfied with my art as I have spent drawing it. But there are those few moments, where you realize you've CREATED something. And it doesn't matter how good or bad it is on an objective scale. You've CREATED something. And that in itself is amazing.

No it won't be easy, but you CAN do it.

 

[Acid08]

Of course it won't be very good, but that's to be expected. Nobody is an expert when they start something; you learn by doing.

I totally get it but I feel like a total failure if I don't nail something the first time I do it. Also something we're talking about.

The thing about art:

Talent only makes it EASIER but lacking it is not a barrier to success. Those who lack it tend to give up easier, failing before they've really given it their all.

And talent or no talent it still requires WORK. LOTS OF IT. This is a thing that people don't seem to realize with art is just how much work it takes to become decent. You have to train yourself to see and move in a new way and it's HARD. But you can do it through perseverance and effort. Lots of it. Every day for hours. You can't just draw once and awhile and decide you aren't any good at it. It simply doesn't work that way.

I have talent, yes, but my first efforts were awful too. I have probably spent nearly as many hours being unsatisfied with my art as I have spent drawing it. But there are those few moments, where you realize you've CREATED something. And it doesn't matter how good or bad it is on an objective scale. You've CREATED something. And that in itself is amazing.

No it won't be easy, but you CAN do it.

Thanks Lissar, you're the coolest :').

 

[Hawkian]

The thing about art:

Talent only makes it EASIER but lacking it is not a barrier to success. Those who lack it tend to give up easier, failing before they've really given it their all.

And talent or no talent it still requires WORK. LOTS OF IT. This is a thing that people don't seem to realize with art is just how much work it takes to become decent. You have to train yourself to see and move in a new way and it's HARD. But you can do it through perseverance and effort. Lots of it. Every day for hours. You can't just draw once and awhile and decide you aren't any good at it. It simply doesn't work that way.

I have talent, yes, but my first efforts were awful too. I have probably spent nearly as many hours being unsatisfied with my art as I have spent drawing it. But there are those few moments, where you realize you've CREATED something. And it doesn't matter how good or bad it is on an objective scale. You've CREATED something. And that in itself is amazing.

No it won't be easy, but you CAN do it.

I suppose I can echo this, but not out of a belief that I could actually get good at visual arts I just know the exact feeling you're espousing when it comes to musical talent; I've sat with people I KNOW could become great, but they just got incredibly discouraged all the time as it didn't come as naturally to them.

 

[zon]

Therapy has been going quite well, my therapist is super great. First one I feel like I can be entirely honest around.

We're finally getting into my desire to be an artist despite how terrible I am at art in general. It's the one thing I've thought about doing for a living my entire life. So now she wants me to draw something for her based on my interests in life. I'm scared it'll be shitty :< but I'm starting it at some point today.

How long have you been going to therapy?

 

[Lissar]

I could probably be decent at math if I put in the effort, but the pain is not worth the gain in that area for me.

 

[Acid08]

How long have you been going to therapy?

Every week for about three months.

I've seen four in my life starting at 14.

 

[Hawkian]

I could probably be decent at math if I put in the effort, but the pain is not worth the gain in that area for me.

High-six!

Or however many fingers we have, i never learned to count

 

[CrudeDiatribe]

I totally get it but I feel like a total failure if I don't nail something the first time I do it. Also something we're talking about.

It's a very common trait. I was fortunate to start playing guitar at a young age and I think this made me learn the necessity of work.

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

I'm still waiting for an opinion you hold that I outright disagree with.

I'm an enormous fan of murder.

 

[Hawkian]

Still waiting.

 

[zon]

Every week for about three months.

I've seen four in my life starting at 14.

I've been seeing a therapist for over 4½ years now so I know it can be rough. I clicked almost immediately with the first therapist I got to talk to, in that respect I was lucky I suppose. It didn't take many weeks before I felt she understood me whenever we met.

I'm slowly, but surely, dealing with the problems I've developed so I know in a way that one day I won't have these problems anymore. I hope you're able to do the same.

 

[.la1n]

Business party for my new career with Amerilife. Lucky to have bounced back as quick as I did. Didn't even have to use Dave as a reference that's me on the right for those who aren't familiar.

Real happy right now.

 

[Acid08]

You are a supremely attractive man, sir. Good to hear you bounced back

 

[Hawkian]

SoFla realgaf, um, I can't believe I'm saying these words, but: Facebook is Down, if any of you see this post the details here?

 

[ZeroRay]

Exactly what details do you require, Mr. Hawk?

 

[Hawkian]

Um where and when.

edit: I mean you can PM me if you're afraid of spies.

 

[ZeroRay]

Nah ain't no spies here.

Spoiler

No one comes to OT Community.

9PM @

Duffy's Sports Bar & Grill
3969 N.E. 163rd Street
North Miami Beach

 

[leadbelly]

Glad to hear that la1n. Good luck with your new job.

I was just thinking about Crysis 2. I have the exact same criticisms with Crysis 2 I had with Crysis 1. That seems a bit odd considering it is more linear.

With Crysis 1 you had this huge, beautiful open world to play in. The problem I had with it though, was that it just seemed like you were going from one area on the map to another and doing basically the same thing. Crysis 1 mainly consisted of going to some camp and killing a bunch of soldiers. For large parts of the game there was very little variety in enemies, and because it was mainly an open world environment, it was less focused on set pieces. So basically you went from one side of the map to kill a bunch of soldiers in a camp, to another side of the map to kill bunch of soldiers in a camp. And the purpose of going from one side of the map to the other was the typical military operation rubbish. "You've got to infiltrate the camp and release the hostage...blah blah blah". It just becomes instantly forgettable that shit.

Looking back on the game, all I can remember of it is this:

"You need to go to this location and... blah blah blah"

"Get your ass off to this location soldier!"

"It is crucial you make it to this location..."

That's the game! I just find it funny that I think exactly the same thing about Crysis 2. All I can remember of the story and missions is "go to this location...blah blah blah" and then just shooting a bunch of soldiers. lol

 

[ClassyPenguin]

The thing about art:

Talent only makes it EASIER but lacking it is not a barrier to success. Those who lack it tend to give up easier, failing before they've really given it their all.

And talent or no talent it still requires WORK. LOTS OF IT. This is a thing that people don't seem to realize with art is just how much work it takes to become decent. You have to train yourself to see and move in a new way and it's HARD. But you can do it through perseverance and effort. Lots of it. Every day for hours. You can't just draw once and awhile and decide you aren't any good at it. It simply doesn't work that way.

I have talent, yes, but my first efforts were awful too. I have probably spent nearly as many hours being unsatisfied with my art as I have spent drawing it. But there are those few moments, where you realize you've CREATED something. And it doesn't matter how good or bad it is on an objective scale. You've CREATED something. And that in itself is amazing.

No it won't be easy, but you CAN do it.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Finished PS:T!
Now I just want to immerse myself in the Planescape D&D setting and nerd it up

 

[.la1n]

Thank you guys it feels great to have fresh start in a new type of business, they don't throw half bad parties either

 

[ZeroRay]

Congrats la1n!

Had some good times with the Miami Real-Gaffers.

 

[Hawkian]

Congrats la1n

So Pau is very pretty in person but mean and possibly a serial killer. Also she hasn't beat Demon's Souls so I don't know if I can trust her.

 

[Chuckie]

Congrats la1n

So Pau is very pretty in person but mean and possibly a serial killer. Also she hasn't beat Demon's Souls so I don't know if I can trust her.

Tell me more! The pretty part I believe, the mean part not so much.

 

[Ezalc]

Congrats la1n

So Pau is very pretty in person but mean and possibly a serial killer. Also she hasn't beat Demon's Souls so I don't know if I can trust her.

She reminds me of my brother-in-law's sister.

 

[Acid08]

Congrats la1n

So Pau is very pretty in person but mean and possibly a serial killer. Also she hasn't beat Demon's Souls so I don't know if I can trust her.

Pau is a total jerk huh? Saw that coming.

Spoiler

seriously, I did.

Spoiler

Sorry pau, you the best ;P

 

[Hawkian]

Tell me more! The pretty part I believe, the mean part not so much.

yeah I may have been exaggerating

Spoiler

about which part? muahahaha

No seriously she might be a serial killer.

 

[Ezalc]

Watching all the old pokemon league episodes in english (from like every region) feels nostalgic man.

 

[.la1n]

Pau is the mother fuckin' Batman

 

[Davedough]

Pau is the mother fuckin' Batman

You look drunk in that party picture. Congrats though man. Glad you're back on your feet. I might have known this earlier if you didn't keep deactivating your facebook account. =P

 

[lazybones18]

1 final done, one more to go

 

[zon]

Congrats la1n!

And Pau being pretty has been established ever since she started using her current avatar.

 

[Dr.Palutena]

1 final done, one more to go

Same, I feel like I aced this one too. I was awkwardly the first one to turn in the exam, which made me both proud and incredibly paranoid I missed something :x.

 

[.la1n]

You look drunk in that party picture. Congrats though man. Glad you're back on your feet. I might have known this earlier if you didn't keep deactivating your facebook account. =P

When life hands you free beer, you do not say no thanks.

 

[RobotNinjaHornets]

Hm. I need to give a phone number for SS present.

...I don't want to give my number considering it's a different country.

 

[Ezalc]

When life hands you free beer, you do not say no thanks.

I do, beer sucks.

 

[RobotNinjaHornets]

I do, beer sucks.

 

[Ezalc]

For once it seems we agree on something.

 

[leadbelly]

When life hands you free beer, you do not say no thanks.

Unless you have a drinking problem.

So Sleeping Dogs is updating. It's only a 4.5gb update. lol

I have no idea why it is that big.

 

[CrudeDiatribe]

This seems apropos.

 

[Ezalc]

This seems apropos.

That was just mean, though I figured that would happen when I did it.

 

[Pau]

Congrats la1n

So Pau is very pretty in person but mean and possibly a serial killer. Also she hasn't beat Demon's Souls so I don't know if I can trust her.

Well, I guess two out of three isn't bad. (Which two is it? D

She reminds me of my brother-in-law's sister.

Your brother-in-law's sister hasn't beaten Demon's Souls either?

Pau is a total jerk huh? Saw that coming.

Spoiler

seriously, I did.

Spoiler

Sorry pau, you the best ;P

I thought we were bros. :C There was a distinct lack of comic and batman talk at the table. Maybe I'd be nicer if that wasn't the case!

Same, I feel like I aced this one too. I was awkwardly the first one to turn in the exam, which made me both proud and incredibly paranoid I missed something :x.

Oh that can definitely feel awkward when it happens but I'm sure you were very prepared and did amazingly!

 

[Acid08]

Pau, the newest issue of Batman comes out tomorrow and it is VERY exciting.

 

[Chuckie]

Pau, the newest issue of Batman comes out tomorrow and it is VERY exciting.

Shit....that reminds me I still have to start the new 52 :O

 

[Acid08]

Shit....that reminds me I still have to start the new 52 :O

Batman is the best series to jump into man, the first arc is amazing, long, and completely original.

DC is the absolute worst when it comes to releasing trades though. The second one doesn't come out until March, almost a year after the first one came out.

 

[Chuckie]

Batman is the best series to jump into man, the first arc is amazing, long, and completely original.

Yeah if I recall correctly, you were the one who adviced me to get that one. I just looked into the first one. The art was amazing.

 

[Acid08]

Also, Aquaman and Batwoman.

 

[ZeroRay]

I can confirm Pau definitely tried to kill me.

Edit: Also, three Bengali dudes in my friends list have a birthday this week. Including our own ShockingAlberto!

 

[zon]

So Batman is worth reading now?

 

[Chuckie]

Pau