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Rebuilding The Last of Us Part I: A deep dive into combat, animation, audio and visual changes with Naughty Dog
A Most Virtuous Cat
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Milking The Last of Us Part I: A deep dive into greed, lack of ambition, pushing the Message and the dark mind of Neil Druckmann with Naughty Dog
Aenima
Member
Looks amazing. But im not in a hurry to replay it. In a few years for cheap, yeah, ill bite.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Naughty Dog are so good at graphics
The cinematics are extremely next gen looking.
A step above anything seen yet
GHG
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Milking The Shit-Post: A deep dive into creative bankruptcy, lack of ambition, pushing the Message and the empty mind of A Most Virtuous Cat on Neogaf
Slicker than your average
Banned
Tlou sure does trigger green rats.
DonJorginho
Banned
£70 for me personally in my own financial situation is worth it to just to experience the first truly next-gen looking title on PS5.
M1987
Member
That looks incredibleNaughty Dog are so good at graphics
Yep, pretty much.
Although I'm not sure what their excuse is for doing such a half-arsed job remastering UC4 and TLL for PS5. This is now 2 releases in a row that have been - frankly - low quality.
ChiefDada
Gold Member
Yep this has been my reasoning behind my purchasing decision from day 1. If the transition to current generation wasn't so atypical and we were flooded with current gen titles, then the value proposition calculus would likely have been different for me.
Negotiator101
Member
Why would you? They literally said they're using TLOU2 tech to build this remake.
Hugare
Gold Member
"Crouch is not prone, where the player can see under objects. Tell where that exist in tlou. "
It exists on the entirety of TLOU Part 2. A game with maps MUCH bigger than Part 1, nonetheless.
"Then you have add the in the Ai search functions all the animations to support that"
Like the ones used in Part II that they could easily port? Like the other animations (and AI) that they are already porting? I see
"“ Put up some invisible walls?” BAD, crappy horrible idea, are you a gamer? You know that’s bad game design right?"
You know that every game has invisible walls, right? Including that very linear game called The Last of Us for the PS3?
All they had to do was to put a chair on the debris that's already there blocking the player's passage. WOW, that would require some work. Specially since they are already redesigning and remodeling every map in the game.
You can keep defending them all you want. But trying to make it justifiable is plain stupid.
If people want to buy this then fair enough, I can totally understand the appeal. But thinking it looks truly next gen? Wtaf?! Are people blind or something? I've just watched videos of this and then TLOU2 to compare - they look basically identical. It's using exactly the same graphics engine and even the same assets, where it can. How can a game look 'truly next gen' and exactly like a PS4 game at the same time?!
Negotiator101
Member
Yes you are right, but you're seeing a higher resolution and probably better lighting which is giving this at least more image clarity.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Someone was claiming part 2 had much better animations and I’m not seeing that
Part 1 may not have as many animations, but the ones there look just as good
I don't see any improvement to the lighting, and the 60fps version that they've shown off will almost certainly be the same resolution as TLOU2 already runs via back compat.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
1440 vs 4k bro
You think this is gonna run at 4k60?
If it does then that's really impressive. It won't, though.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Maybe in cutscenes it’ll be native 4k, dynamic 4k in gameplay
It looks crisper than tlou2 in the trailers
I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's anything more than 1440p60, like all their other games. Certainly Sony have a history of just using 'dynamic 4k' for basically any resolution that's beyond 1080p. They even called Returnal 'dynamic 4k'.
KillerKowalski
Neo Member
God dammit, I'm buying Last of Us again.
Justin9mm
Member
You are looking at it the wrong way, have you played TLOU1 PS4 remastered recently? It feels dated. This remake is for newcomers to coincide with the TV show because they are building on the franchise and banking on it being a success. They want new comers to watch the show and want to pick up the games so bringing this in line with Part 2 makes sense. This game is not marketed for you (existing players of the original)
I really don't get why people don't understand this.
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ChorizoPicozo
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Weak
ChiefDada
Gold Member
Which game looks current gen to you?
Are you?
If the assets/models are using higher geometry and textures, are they the same assets/models?
You sure?
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Hugare
Gold Member
Comparing in totally different lighting conditions is not as clever as you think it isWhich game looks current gen to you?
Are you?
If the assets/models are using higher geometry and textures, are they the same assets/models?
You sure?
I'm on mobile and too lazy right now, but I'm pretty sure I can cherry pick screenshots from Part II that look as good as these
There's nothing being done on these Part I that havent been done in Part II, tech wise
ChiefDada
Gold Member
Lol, lighting conditions will be different no matter which "comparable" captures you choose because TLOU Pt.1 is using advanced cinematic lighting not capable in TLOU2 which was built for PS4 . But thanks for playing and proving my point.
Hugare
Gold Member
Source: from your butt
You've been making a fool of yourself for many pages now with your assumptions, going from ray tracing reflections to "advanced cinematic lighting" now
At least wait for the game to launch before making such ridiculous assumptions
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ChiefDada
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Bernardougf
Member
Juuust waiting to see if they didnt make any changes in the operation scene to make joel look more of an evil character with less forced duality... and some little tweaks here and there just to make the storyline continuation in part 2 seen less stupid.
In a perfect world they didn't change anything and this game should sell double of what part 2 sold, proving that even with good numbers it wasn't as successful as it could be with a less divisive story... but at 70$?? No way ... or maybe thats the reason to charge 70$.. so it cannot sell faster and better then part 2
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Which game looks current gen to you?
Are you?
If the assets/models are using higher geometry and textures, are they the same assets/models?
You sure?
Ratchet and Clank is the only truly next gen game that's been shown so far IMO. It looks way better than this.
Horizon 2, in some areas, also looks as good as Ratchet, but is fairly inconsistent.
IMO Deathloop is the next best looking. People laugh at that idea because they can't see past the rather strange art style, but the actual fidelity of the lighting, draw distance, overall geometry etc is excellent. Again, much better than this.
Returnal and Demon's Souls are probably the next best. Returnal has higher highs - at times it just looks staggeringly good - but is VERY inconsistent.
As for your images: here, please peruse this screen of TLOU2, which likewise 'proves' that it's better looking than this remake.
Hugare
Gold Member
... They are obviously saying that they improved it compared to the original release, not Part II
It's using same tech that Part II used.
Let's wait for Digital Foundry take then
Pedro Motta
Gold Member
Hobbygaming
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I don't think Horizon Forbidden West is fairly inconsistent, the game looks gorgeous like in every environment during any time of day
rodrigolfp
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after it goes for $30 or less on pc with glorious m+kb gameplay.
Well that's my opinion. For me, the desert and swamp areas, for example, and the opening area with the town, look much worse than the jungle environment they showed off in the SOP.
ok fuckwit
alabtrosMyster
Banned
Nope, these will be the best graphics EVER! I'm not even sure it's fair to compare them, TLoU is so last gen.
Pedro Motta
Gold Member
This is from an offline rendered trailer @ 24fps and letterboxed aspect ratio.Nope, these will be the best graphics EVER! I'm not even sure it's fair to compare them, TLoU is so last gen.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
Deathloop looks great in the same sense that Mario looks great, it's clean and pure.
well I'll give credit without looking at last of us 1, I assumed it looked like I remembered last of us 1 looking,
going back it's clearly a huge jump in visuals, but still looks like the original game unlike demon's souls or shadow of the colossus and their extensive artistic liberties, so job well done there
going back it's clearly a huge jump in visuals, but still looks like the original game unlike demon's souls or shadow of the colossus and their extensive artistic liberties, so job well done there
lovetalkgames
Banned
I’m sure this version of the game is great but every justification for its existence reads like a tremendous cope.
DeepSpace5D
Member
Man, it’s looking alot better than I was expecting personally. Not that I needed anymore convincing, already got it pre-loaded and ready to go. This remake is going to look glorious in 4k HDR.
Feel Like I'm On 42
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Even in today's video addressing the technical side of the game they STILL skirted around the issue of what's improved over LoU2. Everything was compared to the ps3 game but what should matter is what's improved in 3 years since Part 2 now that we're on Ps5. They focused yet again only on cutscenes which do look great but what about the environments is improved over 2?There was a vague mention about lighting but they went into no detail.
Someone said this is the first real next gen game on ps5. I'd like to know how they watched trailers for this and came away thinking that. All I can maybe see some ambient occlusion indoors looks really great and the cutscenes. Ratchet has tons of npcs all doing complex animation and filling each scene, 4k res textures which hold up when zooming in the camera, ray tracing, great particle effects, lots of far distant detail and just smacks of next gen. Demons Souls has the best tesselation ever in a console game which would've been impossible on ps4. Horizon is open world with high res textures everywhere, greatly expanded lods, extremely detailed character models, great lighting and global illumination and dense geometry.
Last of Us remake looks exactly like Part 2. It's beautiful yes but so was Part 2. The character models in cutscenes are phenomenal looking and the ambient occlusion seems really excellent. I'm hoping this dynamic 4k/60 will result in a higher overall resolution than LoU2. That would help to be a clear improvement but we don't know if the final game will average out any higher than LoU2's 1440p res. How about the textures? They seem pretty good but are they better than Part 2? Do they have the same crazy detail that Demons Souls and Horizon have? I can't tell from the leaks which is not a good sign. The foliage is definitely not better than Part 2.
Today's video could've clarified some stuff and silenced people like me from complaining about the graphics.
Someone said this is the first real next gen game on ps5. I'd like to know how they watched trailers for this and came away thinking that. All I can maybe see some ambient occlusion indoors looks really great and the cutscenes. Ratchet has tons of npcs all doing complex animation and filling each scene, 4k res textures which hold up when zooming in the camera, ray tracing, great particle effects, lots of far distant detail and just smacks of next gen. Demons Souls has the best tesselation ever in a console game which would've been impossible on ps4. Horizon is open world with high res textures everywhere, greatly expanded lods, extremely detailed character models, great lighting and global illumination and dense geometry.
Last of Us remake looks exactly like Part 2. It's beautiful yes but so was Part 2. The character models in cutscenes are phenomenal looking and the ambient occlusion seems really excellent. I'm hoping this dynamic 4k/60 will result in a higher overall resolution than LoU2. That would help to be a clear improvement but we don't know if the final game will average out any higher than LoU2's 1440p res. How about the textures? They seem pretty good but are they better than Part 2? Do they have the same crazy detail that Demons Souls and Horizon have? I can't tell from the leaks which is not a good sign. The foliage is definitely not better than Part 2.
Today's video could've clarified some stuff and silenced people like me from complaining about the graphics.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I don't usually buy remasters don't worry.
Remakes is a different game though which is why I'm buying this one.