Support NeoGAF

[ThroneZwei]

I noticed that the e's not found in the racial slur (being the rest on the receipt and those found on the letter) tend to start from a higher position, and then go down and right to make the rest of the letter. The one on the slur seems to start low and then work its way higher.

Maybe I'm reading too much into this.

That's simply because it's slanted and not in line with the rest of the word(For 'nigger' that is).

His line of thinking was 'Oh it won't fit, let me slant it up'. It's something children do in Elementary school often.

So while it would be that his 'e' starts lower, it's just because it's also slanted in comparison.

 

[Bomber Bob]

should have been on reddit with a throwaway account

 

[User 100115]

I noticed that the e's not found in the racial slur (being the rest on the receipt and those found on the letter) tend to start from a higher position, and then go down and right to make the rest of the letter. The one on the slur seems to start low and then work its way higher.

Maybe I'm reading too much into this.

The slur is tilted though, and scrawled hastily. But the e's man...they all have that little tag. In the formal letter where he's trying to be neat neat, in the 'none' and in the slur. It could be nothing, but it was something I noticed.

 

[inky]

I dunno...the e's in both words kinda have the same lead in.

The "n" seems to be rather different tho.

 

[Winterfang]

Wait why would she fake it? What could possible she gain from that?

 

[Necromanti]

That's simply because it's slanted and not in line with the rest of the word(For 'nigger' that is).

His line of thinking was 'Oh it won't fit, let me slant it up'. It's something children do in Elementary school often.

So while it would be that his 'e' starts lower, it's just because it's also slanted in comparison.

I don't see why he'd think it wouldn't fit, though, since there's plenty of space after the last 'g', and he's been obeying the lines in every other noted instance. The general style of the 'e' itself would be easy to replicate by merely looking at it.

EDIT: I wonder if this is the work of Jimmy Kimmel.

 

[Giygas AF]

I just have a totally unfounded belief that Red Lobster attracts a lot of racists, especially during Endless Shrimp. It's nothing personal against anyone who enjoys the restaurant. I don't know why I feel this way, I just do.



Casual racists. They delight in hate behind people's backs, but once confronted they feel a pang of shame. Pathetic. If you're going to be an asshole at least be consistent about it.

I seriously doubt a "casual" racist would write on a receipt that has their info on it. That seems pretty involved to me.

 

[Azure Dream]

I dunno...the e's in both words kinda have the same lead in.

But the "e" in "None" has an intentional sharp edge to it, while the bottom "e" is a smooth curve.

It's kind of hard to say. The situation is weird, because I could see someone writing "None" and leaving the rest blank, since there's no amount to change. But going to the trouble of writing a slur in the "Total" area just seems weird, even if he was a hateful sod.

 

[ThroneZwei]

I don't see why he'd think it wouldn't fit, though, since there's plenty of space after the last 'g', and he's been obeying the lines in every other noted instance. The general style of the 'e' itself would be easy to replicate by merely looking at it.

There could be multiple reasons. He was in a rush, he was scrawling it quickly, he did it while standing up so his party wouldn't see(Which would be the most likely thing), or he thought it wouldn't fit.

It's one of the four. If there was footage of it that'd be great to confirm my suspicions.

But I've noticed the tendency to write out of line for mainly 2 reasons-In a hurry and standing up writing while being bent over to the note, or thinking it won't fit and doing it slanted(Usually affects smaller children, as they're not experienced in writing).

 

[User 100115]

But the "e" in "None" has an intentional sharp edge to it, while the bottom "e" is a smooth curve.

It's kind of hard to say. The situation is weird, because I could see someone writing "None" and leaving the rest blank, since there's no amount to change. But going to the trouble of writing a slur in the "Total" area just seems weird, even if he was a hateful sod.

The e's in his apology letter have the smooth curve too. So maybe he didn't right none, just the slur?

 

[BronsonLee]

The letter says it's his pastor. He went for advice to his pastor who also happens to be a lawyer.

Ahhhh, that makes sense. Sorry, I can't read the damn letter here at work

His name is printed clearly on the receipt, and he's been harassed as a result. Seems pretty clear they're going to look for some kind of reparation no matter whether he wrote it or not.

Oh that's expected, I was just wondering if we knew what the deal was there.

 

[Madness]

Wait why would she fake it? What could possible she gain from that?

Revenge against a customer who didn't give her a tip? Support from others? Quite a few people have done this stuff before, like people who write racist stuff on their buildings or homophobic slurs etc.

Why would anyone who pays with their credit card and signs their full name, then seemingly write that, and it seems like different pen and handwriting altogether.

I read a few reports and it said when the picture went viral, she refused to talk more about it and didn't believe it would blow up like it did.

I don't want to call shenanigans, but I'm feeling that way. But reddit detectives are on the case probably, will probably have this guy's name, address down so people can ask him.

Then again, I just can't fathom anyone writing that. Seems so heartless and cruel. If it was my mom, wife, sister who served some guy and had that written instead of a tip, I'd go ballistic myself.

 

[Dali]

looks fake tbh

While the south is no stranger to racism, the style of the writings don't even match. One looks like it written by a kid and the other looks like a regular, illegible signature.

It's not an unbelievable story but yeah it does look fake. Maybe it's the lighting but the ink doesn't even look the same color. But then again if it's fake why would someone just sign the receipt and leave the tip and total area completely blank?

 

[MThanded]

She got fired. The fuck is this?

 

[Necromanti]

There could be multiple reasons. He was in a rush, he was scrawling it quickly, he did it while standing up so his party wouldn't see(Which would be the most likely thing), or he thought it wouldn't fit.

It's one of the four. If there was footage of it that'd be great to confirm my suspicions.

But I've noticed the tendency to write out of line for mainly 2 reasons-In a hurry and standing up writing while being bent over to the note, or thinking it won't fit and doing it slanted(Usually affects smaller children, as they're not experienced in writing).

True. Since he was at a table and his wife probably wasn't privy to the receipt, I would imagine he was still seated when he wrote it, and then left the receipt. Unless he got up, picked up the restaurant's pen again, scribbled it, and then put the receipt back on the table.

Contrarily, a waitress--standing and busy, feeling unappreciated due to someone writing "none" for the tip rather than leaving it blank--could have scrawled it hastily before taking a picture and showing it to her superiors. (Which is hopefully, I pray, not the case.)

I don't know which instance would be worse, to be honest. I hope justice is served accordingly either way.

 

[DR2K]

So she gets 2 bucks an hour? Because that's all red lobster pays waiters

 

[Devolution]

Not really sure why the handwriting has to be consistent considering two customers were privy to the receipt.

 

[aly]

I just have a totally unfounded belief that Red Lobster attracts a lot of racists, especially during Endless Shrimp. It's nothing personal against anyone who enjoys the restaurant. I don't know why I feel this way, I just do.

I got to say that is a pretty weird belief though. Especially when you said endless shrimp. Don't know where you live, but that attracts a lot of black customers, especially churches on Sundays. So yeah pretty weird.

 

[Zoe]

She got fired. The fuck is this?

The restaurant's going to lose a nice chunk of money because of her.

So she gets 2 bucks an hour? Because that's all red lobster pays waiters

It gets bumped to minimum wage when you don't make enough in tips.

 

[Aquamarine]

The letter says it's his pastor. He went for advice to his pastor who also happens to be a lawyer.

This checks out. Here's the proof:

http://usa-adress.com/15551974_tennessee_petersburg.html
https://foursquare.com/v/petersburg-first-baptist-church/4da0e848b1c93704294cc2a1
Petersburg First Baptist Church
107 Church St
Petersburg, TN 37144-2217

Pastor: Richard Dugger


http://duggerlaw.50webs.com/
Richard Dugger & Associates
218 N Main Street
Shelbyville, TN 37160-3940

From the pastor's church to the pastor's law offices:

As you can see, the attorney for this case is clearly the pastor of a local church.


Here's the distance from Devin's church to Red Lobster:

Everything checks out. It's extremely plausible that Devin Barnes went to his pastor after finding out the scandal, and the pastor decided to defend him as an attorney.

The fact that he got an attorney so quickly CAN NOT implicate Mr. Barnes as guilty in this case.

 

[richiek]

She got fired. The fuck is this?

Source?

 

[Takuan]

She got fired. The fuck is this?

If this is true, it's for the better. I'm sure she'll be able to find a job at a place that doesn't tolerate this kind of bullshit doesn't protect the interests of bigots. It should cost The Lobster a good amount of business.

Edit: She deserved to be fired for posting the info, yes, but I could not give a fuck less that the person is now being harassed*.

*If said person actually did write that on the receipt. Unless she's very stupid, I don't understand why she would fabricate this. Then again, she did upload the receipt in the first place.

 

[MIMIC]

I didn't realize that the name was clearly printed on the receipt.

 

[ThroneZwei]

If this is true, it's for the better. I'm sure she'll be able to find a job at a place that doesn't tolerate this kind of bullshit, and it is going to cost The Lobster dearly.

Tolerate the bullshit of publically posting of ones financial details as well as name? Or embarrassing the company?

I'm confused.

 

[crazygambit]

Oh wow.

shyamalantwist.jpg

After taking a closer look at the receipt I'm not at all convinced the guy is guilty of anything. Not even being cheap if it was a carry out order.

 

[Enzom21]

You're really taking my comments and running with them, aren't you?

You're the one in here bitching and moaning that your privacy might be violated after you write nigger on a receipt.

 

[Aquamarine]

Apparently David Barnes's personal information (like his address and phone number) has been circulating around the Internet...and he's getting harassed and threats from that.

The attorney is hiring a handwriting expert to examine the writing. If he really did write that word, all the more power to the harassers. We should have no tolerance for hostile racists in today's society, especially when that poor girl did nothing wrong.

But if he's actually innocent, and someone else wrote that word...then that's a different story all together.

 

[Mononoke]

Fuck it, glad she posted that.

Public shaming is the best way to combat a prejudice prick.

Unless it's not real, and then she just posted someones personal info. As well as brought attention to her employers.

 

[ThroneZwei]

Apparently David Barnes's personal information (like his address and phone number) has been circulating around the internet...and he's getting harassed and threats from that.

The attorney is hiring a handwriting expert to examine the writing. If he really did write that word, all the more power to the harassers. We should have no tolerance for hostile racists in today's society, especially when that poor girl did nothing wrong.

But if he's actually innocent, and someone else wrote that word...then that's a different story all together.

Whatever happened to the concept 'Innocent until proven guilty?'

What I dislike about all this, and why public shaming is bad IMO, is that people are jumping the gun and already marking him as guilty. It's stupid, it hurts both parties, it got the waiter fired(Which would be good, to show that companies don't tolerate shaming somebody), and all it does is hurt everyone involved.

But hey, I guess since he's accused of being a racist he's the most evil on the planet without a trial. So let's start harassing him daily because I dunno, the ones doing the harassment are far worse then him.

 

[crozier]

Whatever happened to the concept 'Innocent until proven guilty?'

Lynching mentality. I despise the Internet sometimes.

The guy has an excellent case for a lawsuit against Red Lobster, especially if they keep the employee on. I can't even imagine the kind of harassment he's probably facing right now. I'd be seeing red.

 

[malfcn]

Tip or not, always right something on the total line.

 

[Dali]

You're the one in here bitching and moaning that your privacy might be violated after you write nigger on a receipt.

Receipts aren't really public records though? I feel like a lot of people need to get with the times and learn the internet is a tool that can be used to publicly shame an idiot that still thinks it's the 50s but at the same time there's a social contract that any business I patronize won't make the receipt I hand their employee a hot topic on fcbk. They were both in the wrong. The waitress should have been more professional in the way she handled it and the customer shouldn't think his asshole behavior was going to always be tolerated.

 

[aly]

If this is true, it's for the better. I'm sure she'll be able to find a job at a place that doesn't tolerate this kind of bullshit, and it is going to cost The Lobster dearly.

What? Let's get something straight. If the guy did write that he was in the wrong. However there are ways for employee's to handle this type of situation. Posting personal info on a customer is not the right way. I don't think that's tolerated anywhere.

 

[Takuan]

Tolerate the bullshit of publically posting of ones financial details as well as name? Or embarrassing the company?

I'm confused.

What? Let's get something straight. If the guy did write that he was in the wrong. However there are ways for employee's to handle this type of situation. Posting personal info on a customer is not the right way. I don't think that's tolerated anywhere.

I posted without thinking. Yes, she fucked up. It's just frustrating to see corporations throw their employees under the bus for business reasons - understandable, but frustrating.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

If she faked this, she is the one responsible for public shaming and in a sense, racism on her part and deserves termination without the option of unemployment benefits.

I'm kind of up in the air about who's the culprit. In a way, the "none" looks very similar to the N-word which makes me suspicious of the customer. But, the customer seemed to act rather quick in regards to defending themselves even so much as to going to their church for help. I just don't know.

Edit: In the end, it looks like regardless whether or not Barnes wrote the racist remark, he has a good case to go after since it now seems he's receiving harassment and threats.

 

[crozier]

I posted without thinking. Yes, she fucked up. It's just frustrating to see corporations throw their employees under the bus for business reasons - understandable, but frustrating.

Legal reasons, not just business reasons.

 

[Zoe]

I posted without thinking. Yes, she fucked up. It's just frustrating to see corporations throw their employees under the bus for business reasons - understandable, but frustrating.

How are they throwing her under the bus though? The company had no part in putting his personal information out there. That's completely on her.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

What would she gain by faking this?

 

[Malvolio]

What would she gain by faking this?

Sympathy. Also, I think she didn't expect it to get as much publicity as it it did.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I saw this yesterday on my FB I did not know the context

 

[kidko]

"Surely no one would do that, must be a fake" said the white person

 

[besada]

Whatever happened to the concept 'Innocent until proven guilty?'

This isn't a court room, so we're not bound by the principles of jurisprudence. This is a discussion forum, where people express their opinions, and those opinions don't have any bearing on the legal status of the person in question.

 

[Aristion]

Publically Shaming someone is just as bad.

You're not black, I'm guessing.

 

[Takuan]

How are they throwing her under the bus though? The company had no part in putting his personal information out there. That's completely on her.

True, she made a poor decision uploading that receipt in full. Still, I'd rather cunty people be put to task rather than protected and ultimately rewarded (he/she is totally going to get settlement money from Red Lobster).

 

[BLACKLAC]

I'm about to read through the thread but has anyone in here tried to blame the waitresses behavior yet?

 

[Zoe]

True, she made a poor decision uploading that receipt in full. Still, I'd rather cunty people be put to task rather than protected and ultimately rewarded (he/she is totally going to get settlement money from Red Lobster).

The proper recourse would have been banning him from the restaurant.

 

[fleck0]

What would she gain by faking this?

Attention, turns out people love it.

 

[ThroneZwei]

This isn't a court room, so we're not bound by the principles of jurisprudence. This is a discussion forum, where people express their opinions, and those opinions don't have any bearing on the legal status of the person in question.

You're right.

However, I'm talking about the people who are actively harassing him directly. After all, that is what my comment was aimed at.

 

[unknownhero]

why is the writing different on the receipt. the person's signature and the none ****** are different.

 

[Zoe]

why is the writing different on the receipt. the person's signature and the none ****** are different.

Your signature looks like your print?