Red Orchestra 2 Beta is Now Available on Steam
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I'm hoping people respond to the idea of a Korean War mod on the TW forums. I think that could be an awesome setting where there's a lot of beauty turned to hell in a country ravaged by war. It's not modern where it feels familiar and it's not old enough to be boring and it's setting is similar enough to WWII and Vietnam that you could share assets if the other mods allowed. It's setting is just perfectly unique while still familiar and the maps can be beautiful and a lot different than other maps out there.
I hope some talented people are interested because I really want a mod in that setting. It's definitely "The Forgotten War" for a reason. It's so unique yet it's rarely tried and when it is attempted by a team, it usually never comes out...lol
I hope some talented people are interested because I really want a mod in that setting. It's definitely "The Forgotten War" for a reason. It's so unique yet it's rarely tried and when it is attempted by a team, it usually never comes out...lol
TheExodu5 said:
Okay great.
demolitio said:
Am I bad person for not really feeling any interest in that mod?
It just doesn't give me that buzzing sensation, the pacific rim wars, as I call them. I hope it's released of course but I'd much rather see some more WW2 European theaters, explored. I'd love to see the Bulge, Market Garden and all the classics in this game.
I'd love to see those as well. According to the TW forums, those are stale and shouldn't be done but I think they're nuts. But I just want to see one thing that's never been done before while being a different enough scenario to see some new toys to play with and beautiful scenery with some awesome battles.Sethos said:Okay great.
Am I bad person for not really feeling any interest in that mod?
It just doesn't give me that buzzing sensation, the pacific rim wars, as I call them. I hope it's released of course but I'd much rather see some more WW2 European theaters, explored. I'd love to see the Bulge, Market Garden and all the classics in this game.
Battle of the Bulge was another one I was thinking of actually but I was waiting to see if Darkest Hour 2 is in the works or not. Problem with all of these ideas is getting enough people to make it happen in the end and I know the DH team are capable of making an awesome mod.
demolitio said:
Yeah, people seem to use the "Overused" argument a lot but really, when have we experienced those scenarios in a proper WW2 game, especially multiplayer? Yes, they are saturated by the fact that they are stable WW2 battles but how many games have actually recreated them in an online environment and done it properly? Not just whipped together a map with some snow, a few trees and then labelled it "Battle of the Bulge".
I personally haven't played any such game.
Exactly. Even the things that were done in RO1, do people not see the potential of a mod with the same scenario on the new engine with all the gameplay enhancements they've added? People aren't sick of another realistic Germany vs. Russia game yet they're sick of a realistic U.S. vs. Germany scenario? Not many games have that to say, let alone battles like Battle of the Bulge where it's setting alone is very unique.Sethos said:
It's funny how particular people are when they're kind of contradicting themselves in many ways. It's not like any of these countries and weapons haven't been done before but it doesn't mean it can't be fun. I'd like to see a Korean War mod for many reasons, but actually being unique is definitely one of them, however that doesn't mean I don't enjoy scenarios I've already done as long as there are improvements.
I still don't know why FuriousFighters is in the beta. It's an awful map that encourages camping to a ridiculous degree. It's all mid to long range. At least Apartments has a nice degree of short, mid and long range distances, as it should be. Surely there are some better maps out there. And I don't mean tankmaps because that is pretty awful too.
Well, after testing a round with my AV turned off, performance is definitely improved. Much less jittery stuff...more smooth. Maxed out (these settings: http://i56.tinypic.com/og9cll.png), I'm now seeing similar performance to TheExodu5 (single 570, SLI disabled) with my 6970 CFX (OC'd to 950/1450), which is ~45 FPS.
It may not be optimized for CFX/SLI but it certainly plays smoothly. Utilization is pretty high on both cards (using MSI Afterburner to monitor) during gameplay. And I would think UE 3.5 has CFX/SLI support built-in...so it's probably just some tweaking that needs to be done. I should try with only one card at some point and see how it goes.
It may not be optimized for CFX/SLI but it certainly plays smoothly. Utilization is pretty high on both cards (using MSI Afterburner to monitor) during gameplay. And I would think UE 3.5 has CFX/SLI support built-in...so it's probably just some tweaking that needs to be done. I should try with only one card at some point and see how it goes.
Roude Leiw
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how do i figure out if a server has voip for my squad. and how do i talk to people?
I'm loving territory on Fallen Fighters, people are just scared of going into the open.Dina said:
I spend all my time on Fallen Fighters out in the square either in ditches or behind cover, sneaking to the capture areas or taking out tanks with the anti-tank rifle. I've had games go from one side to the other as well, one team taking the central points and pushing to the other teams building point and then the opposing team pushing back and reversing it.
With good squad leaders and an active commander the map is even better.
old manatee
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I love how you guys are jumping all over him when the game is clearly super jacked up in its current state. I've dealt with a lot of random glitches and crashes to the desktop.
The ui is bad. So much effort is put into adding atmosphere into a multiplayer shooter, and then it's covered with walls of barely formatted text. There is so much information on the screen that is presented in an almost identical way that it is really hard to glean any information out of it at a glance.
The cover system is completely broken. It's super twitchy, so about half of the time I run up to it there is a second or two of my guy jerking back and forth into it, which is a disaster in a game where 1 or 2 shots kills you. And why do you even need a cover system in a first person game with lean buttons? Why do you need lean buttons in a game with a cover system? Maybe they could free up some keys and the cover button won't have to be used for healing and every other thing you want to do.
I'm still optimistic because Tripwire patches their games like crazy, but I could understand other people wanting to cancel their pre-order, as it's hard to imagine that this is going to be a polished game when it ships in 10 days.
edit: "Light shafts" in options rechecks itself everytime I quit, anti-aliasing can't be disabled, I can't use any mounted gun in the game for unknown reasons, I can't click on the map to pick my spawn point like I could in Battlefield 1942 like 10 years ago.
The ui is bad. So much effort is put into adding atmosphere into a multiplayer shooter, and then it's covered with walls of barely formatted text. There is so much information on the screen that is presented in an almost identical way that it is really hard to glean any information out of it at a glance.
The cover system is completely broken. It's super twitchy, so about half of the time I run up to it there is a second or two of my guy jerking back and forth into it, which is a disaster in a game where 1 or 2 shots kills you. And why do you even need a cover system in a first person game with lean buttons? Why do you need lean buttons in a game with a cover system? Maybe they could free up some keys and the cover button won't have to be used for healing and every other thing you want to do.
I'm still optimistic because Tripwire patches their games like crazy, but I could understand other people wanting to cancel their pre-order, as it's hard to imagine that this is going to be a polished game when it ships in 10 days.
edit: "Light shafts" in options rechecks itself everytime I quit, anti-aliasing can't be disabled, I can't use any mounted gun in the game for unknown reasons, I can't click on the map to pick my spawn point like I could in Battlefield 1942 like 10 years ago.
Sethos said:
MLAA runs better on my setup, and produces an image that is far less blurred. ymmv. Could vary based on driver or amd/nvidia.
FXAA (the blurring is easy to notice on the foliage and the window bars):
https://www.box.net/shared/static/trqzhxmt0gp3afrguqjm.png
MLAA:
https://www.box.net/shared/static/etu5nrgsvhkv9r1kt19b.png
Well, while I am not regretting my pre-order (Killing Floor ended up being awesome, as did the original RO), but the game is nowhere near a finished state.
Prone is bugged to hell and back, on certain maps getting near walls/items usually makes them clip giving me a view of the other side (not good on a game like this!), and as others have mentioned, the UI is awful, no other way to describe it.
The gameplay mechanics though are great and it looks awesome, so a few months of patching and tweaking will do wonders but for now I would advise caution if you're still on ther fence.
Prone is bugged to hell and back, on certain maps getting near walls/items usually makes them clip giving me a view of the other side (not good on a game like this!), and as others have mentioned, the UI is awful, no other way to describe it.
The gameplay mechanics though are great and it looks awesome, so a few months of patching and tweaking will do wonders but for now I would advise caution if you're still on ther fence.
TheExodu5 said:
lol...wow. definitely nails the AMD side of things sucking. I'll try that, thanks.
Sethos said:
I always thought it was a "best of both worlds thing" - small performance impact, high visual quality. Plus, I thought it was an AMD thing...if not specific to AMD, at least their cards excel at it.
Fallout-NL
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Qwomo said:
Every single time...
Betas are more like demos nowadays, publishers even have you paying for access. And retail versions rarely, if ever, display the huge leaps in quality you're implying.
(Not commenting on whether RO2 is good or bad.)
sk3tch said:
Actually, FXAA is also faster on AMD cards, it's not a post-process effect that is based on drivers. A few benchmarks have been done with both MLAA and FXAA and FXAA seems to win every time. Nvidia just took what AMD did ( MLAA ) and polished it up, shaped it into something better.
Give this a read http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=437704
I just see FXAA as an improved MLAA.
Sethos said:
Take a look at the second last post in that thread and see how badly it blurrs the image. FXAA is not very good, at the moment. MLAA appears to be more mature in its current incarnation. Also, take a look at my shots above comparing FXAA to MLAA. MLAA is faster and results in a less blurred image.
Ya it needs some work, but I have faith that they will get the bugs fixed. They're coming out with another patch some time today, so that's 2 patches in 3-4 days. Pretty fast response and you can tell they're busting their butts to get this in shape. I gotta say though that the music should just be off. So bad.CaptainAhab said:
Corky said:
Really depends on your hardware. You might hit the jackpot and have a 'supported' setup, one that just runs the game perfectly. Then the game looks stunning and plays fantastic. Then it's all downhill from there unfortunately, lots of issues with AMD users and Crossfire. A few SLI issues here and there and then just general low performance on a lot of setups that still hasn't been identified. So when / if they get it all running as it should, it's definitely a stunning looking title.
Corky said:
Yes and no. In a sense, the lighting is a big bump above other UE3 games, and this is definitely one reason for it being that much more demanding. There are certainly utilization problems, however, with many users reporting the GPU only being used to ~50%, even without a CPU bottleneck. Black Ops and Bad Company 2 both had this issue at launch. This is simply inefficient rendering. Hopefully they can patch it up and ensure the GPU is used more efficiently.
CrookedRain
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This game is really cool. Every kill is very rewarding and I love the tension in this game. It took me a while to start doing well but I finally got the "Most Effective" award the last two maps I played.
Umm, so I've been playing a rifleman without the using the shift zoom that I just read about on this page. Does the shift zoom steady your aim even as a normal rifleman? Cause if so, I've been playing wrong all along. Can anyone answer this for me? I'm at work and can't check. I didn't even know it existed.
If this is true, THANK GOD. I was so pissed off when I found out an MP40 was better to use for medium range fighting. So ridiculous how accurate it is in burst shots. I literally killed 20 people and ran out of ammo thanks to how amazing the MP40 is, but I like playing with rifles
If this is true, THANK GOD. I was so pissed off when I found out an MP40 was better to use for medium range fighting. So ridiculous how accurate it is in burst shots. I literally killed 20 people and ran out of ammo thanks to how amazing the MP40 is, but I like playing with rifles
Is there some Europe GAF Steam group or just one global? I'm still horribly bad at playing this game but I'm loving the tension of every single action you do can be your last. Love Apartments too. I need to get a mic though to communicate with the team, first time I feel the need to have it to enjoy a game.
On apartments, you might as well just use the SMG anyways. If you know where to go, it's not likely that you'll need to engage at long range. There's a lot more room for error than using a rifle, especially going around corners. It will mainly just depend on the map.Ulchie said:Umm, so I've been playing a rifleman without the using the shift zoom that I just read about on this page. Does the shift zoom steady your aim even as a normal rifleman? Cause if so, I've been playing wrong all along. Can anyone answer this for me? I'm at work and can't check. I didn't even know it existed.
If this is true, THANK GOD. I was so pissed off when I found out an MP40 was better to use for medium range fighting. So ridiculous how accurate it is in burst shots. I literally killed 20 people and ran out of ammo thanks to how amazing the MP40 is, but I like playing with rifles
Ya I know but I just love playing a rifleman. It's actually pretty hilarious how amazing they made the MP40 and PPSh in this. I think everyone that tries for rifleman/elite rifleman just doesn't realize how kickass they made the SMG's. I hadn't tried it till today, and the 2nd life that I had an MP40 I literally killed 20 people with it before running out of ammo and switching over to an enemy dropped Mosin-Nagant.kurohana said:
I was getting pretty upset with the rifles because I was trying to shoot people at 150+ meters but I didn't know about the shift zoom so you can imagine how frustrated I was when I had the shots perfectly lined up and it rarely ever hit them. Made me think the iron sights weren't lined up properly.
They do seem extremely powerful on a map where you're mostly going to be mid to short range. I got tired of dying to people using the SMG when I'd miss my first shot with a semi-auto rifle. I assume I miss the first shot because I'm not standing perfectly still, even though I have the sights right on them. I can do the same thing with the SMG, except I just kill them instead.Ulchie said:
Ya I was laughing about it on the server. I literally went from being a mid/lower tier player on the server to the one with the highest kills in a matter of 3 minutes with the MP40. Absolutely ridiculous how easy it was to use. I was out-rifling rifleman at semi long range with burst shots. I mean considering basically every shot that hits them at LEAST makes them bleed, it's just very imbalanced.kurohana said: