ShadowFox08
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Give us dedicated gaming then, Reggie!
Reggie Fils-Aime on Xbox One/PS4 lineups: "Meh"
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Colonel Mustard
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Thanks for sharing your opinion.
Those games are not coming to the Wii U and Reggie knows that better than any of us. It would be stupid of him to go into interviews whining about titles they aren't getting instead of the ones they do have. Did you really expect him to downplay the Wii U titles and praise the upcoming software from their competitors?
Projectjustice
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To each their own brother. When it comes down to it. Ps4 and Xbone launch lineup is a big meh.
Yeah, that's called creating an IP, making some games, then MOVING ON to something new. Nintendo makes great games, but they've been using these iconic Nintendo mascot games as a huge crutch for decades now. And they've never been overly friendly to third parties, consistently undercutting their price by $10, it's no wonder they're being ignored now.
And this is coming from someone who has owned all their consoles (until now...and not virtual boy.)
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
They've also got a stronger line-up and third-party support.
That's exactly the problem. He's doing a terrible job. He can praise his company's console all he wants, but going full out: "The launch catalog of the other consoles is meh" is a direct spit to the third party developers who are making those launch games.
It's basically like saying: "Oh yeah, all those games? First AND Third Party on the other consoles? They look uninteresting. I dont' care for them".
As a PR person he should think before speaking. He may be giving his opinion, but it is still PR talk, and PR talk speaks for the company he is representing. You just don't do that to Third Party developers, or else you end up like...
Well, like Nintendo.
Tough tits, they don't make games that don't appeal to you, that's cool. And it's funny about the whole new IP thing considering more than half of each console's launch is made up of third party game sequels. You notice that each console is also using their first party muscles as well, what with a fourth Killzone and fifth Forza.
I swear, sequels are only a problem when people want them to be :/
Akmost no one will find out because almost no one will buy it, just like in Japan.
Good games are great; they're better when people actually buy them. The latter is what Reggie should concern himself with, being an executive.
Probably a game that justifies the entire console by itself. Twilight Princess could've been had on the much cheaper GC as well. It helped, no doubt. It is something that doesn't really happen anymore now that most game genres have been explored quite well.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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and right back at yaClairvoyance
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Wii U has Assassin's Creed and Watchdogs. GTAV is not on PS4/XBone either. What.
Psst, tp was a GC port.
It certainly wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for him to say something like "There are a lot of great games that gamers will really enjoy coming to the other consoles this year, but let's take a look at the great selection of games that you will be able to enjoy only on Nintendo Wii U.".
Would that be so hard?
AstroNut325
Member
Consumers on Wii U:
"Meh".
Nothing further needs to be said.
You are right, but so far this years gaming ecosystem looks better or "healither" than the others, so he's right.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
It'd be terrible business-sense.
Nobody would do that. If you believe Sony and Microsoft would, I have a nice bridge to sell...
SniperHunter
Banned
Right on.
Bullshit, the people making those "other games" are the same developers and publishers that they need and want to make games for the Wii U.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
Sega ran out of money due to poor management from the prior decade?
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Killzone, Forza, Dead Rising, and Drive Club will have higher metacritic ratings than all of Nintendo's exclusive launch titles.
NSMBU is currently at an 84.
NSMBU is currently at an 84.
Shots from a potato gun?
Not really. An executive acknowledging the competition doesn't impact their bottom line as much as you'd think. Miyamoto and Yoshida do it all the time.
Strange. The recent thread pointed out that he realized internal echo chamber hype was wrong. This suggests he's now buying Nintendo's BS, which might be dangerous for the company. If they don't realize that the Wii U is on the verge of irrelevance then the company will be even more at risk.
I wouldn't call the last years of the Wii and the launch of the 3DS "good" management.
I love to make fun of stupid, disingenuous statements from MS and Sony PR reps, too.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Lots of people like potatoes though.
megabytecr
Member
Ok fair enough.
I choose Wii U and 3DS for its unique and great quality, generation defining (yes Mario Galaxy 1 and 2) hell of a lot fun games.
I also choose PC, free online MP, better graphics and performance, multiplats are better, 1080p60, MODs and cheap games.
So best of both worlds!!
Grabbing a PS4 at the end of the gen as a Naughty Dog machine
This is the usual mainstream stuff. You, actually everybody, should open up to more variety from time to time. E.g. Lego City and Wonderful 101 are excellent games and the upcoming X looks extremely promising. Wii had the same problem, good niche games like Little King's Story, Sin & Punishment and Zack & Wiki went under the radar.
and EXCITE TRUCK!!!
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Nintendo has praised them in the past a ton, see where it got them???
Time to start punching people in the face.
What about the upcoming line-up? Reggie is comparing their upcoming line-up the their competitor's launch-line up in that article. Reading comprehension fail?
No I would expect that he would work to attempt to bring the big third party games on his system.. And maybe he is trying, who knows what goes on while he looks upon the vacant ceiling of his apartment.
I'll give you KZ, Forza and Driveclub.
DR3... I dunno. That's a toss-up.
Driveclub looks amazing.
kidhero1000
Banned
Only one thing can beat the Wii U
megabytecr
Member
You should already know by now, by Kamiya himself, that scores don't matter, believe in yourself man! How much fun you have is what should be important!
weaponlordzero
Member
Maybe they mismanaged the release of the consoles. They didn't mismanage their cash reserves which are fantastic. SEGA didn't have that to fall back on.
Why would he have to say that though? Its all about self promotion. They're all in direct competition. He shouldn't promote other first party games, when he needs to sell his own. And there's not really a reason to word it like, "there's a lot of great 3rd party games coming to other systems, but look at us" The more people ignore the other systems the better for him. He was asked, what incentives people have to buy his system, and he said that his games are better.
BrokenEchelon
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BrokenEchelon on Wii U's sales performance:
lol.
lol.
Of course a system that has been on the market for a year and thus have had games cooking in the oven for far longer are going to look 'healthier', it's such a non-point. At the market level obviously consumers don't care whether a system is out for a year or three, if the games they want are on a specific platform at the price they want they'll get it. But from a perspective of judging the launch lineup as "meh", it's highly ironic considering Nintendo's own launch lineup, which is certainly no better than XB1 or PS4's is (provided at least one or two of XB1 and PS4's exclusives turn out well).
So yes he's technically right, yes I understand the point he is making about the Wii U's current value proposition versus their competitors just getting out of the gate. But in the long run, it's a moot argument: everyone on Earth knows the PS4 and Xb1 are going to have infinitely healthier support from third parties, everyone knows they've got a significantly larger feature set and technical power and on top of that the roll out for exclusive games intended within the first year is significantly higher for both PS4 and XB1 that it is with Wii U even considering the end of year content.
I'm not trying to diss the Wii U. It's in the situation it is because its sales are miserable, and because Nintendo has had difficulty transitioning to HD hardware. I get it. I'm just saying Reggie was the wrong person to deliver this message.