ReubyJuice
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My apologies, I guess I'm just as confused as many others. Even so, for Nintendo to essentially limit the ability of those without phones to a very much feature-deprived experience, it makes no sense to me.
Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app
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My apologies, I guess I'm just as confused as many others. Even so, for Nintendo to essentially limit the ability of those without phones to a very much feature-deprived experience, it makes no sense to me.
Dark Cloud
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The app comes with the subscription, guys. You're not paying for the online subscription and then paying for the app. It's pay for the online subscription which includes the app.
I remember online chat being possible on Metroid for the damn DS.
I'm pretty sure on Windows tablets/phones people can join parties through the Xbox app. All of those people, however, choose to go through the console when actually playing because that is what any sane human would do.
You have to go through the extra steps of using your phone to do things thats been handled by the consoles now for over 15 years just because your systems designer is fucking ass backwards when it comes to this?
You have to hook headphones to your phone or use a headpiece just to get chat audio and the ability to communicate without ambient noise issues while at the same time not being able to funnel in game sound through the same piece?
its needlessly obtuse. I dont see how anyone could defend it
MarkMclovin
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ElectricBlanketFire
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Just over 40 days until launch and we're still unclear on basic functionality.
I have to say, this is a train wreck in the making.
Okay, I'm going to go out on a limb here and try to brainstorm where Nintendo is going with this.
I imagine lobbies will be a lot like Miitomo, interactive with actual rooms and a slick, UI, with Miis running around and other animal-crossing-like elements.
I could see it syncing directly with My Nintendo also.
I could also see it being very half assed and terrible...
I imagine lobbies will be a lot like Miitomo, interactive with actual rooms and a slick, UI, with Miis running around and other animal-crossing-like elements.
I could see it syncing directly with My Nintendo also.
I could also see it being very half assed and terrible...
Looking forward to in about a month or two when all the pro-nintendo arguments coalesce into one final argument, the argument to rule them all when it comes to defending the company and their backwards ways: "I don't need a "me too" console, I don't need these media conveniences. All I need is a gaming console that plays games, and Ninty is delivering on that front"
General matchmaking for games will be handled at the software level. Reggie used the term poorly. We've gone over this numerous times.
How is hooking up headphones to your cell phone cool? How is tying up your phone while gaming cool? My phone is a work tool and I need to be available through my phone not juggling apps while I answer work texts or calls. This idea is hot trash.
RocknRola
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At this point in time, without further details on how the Switch + App will work, it really does feel like it.
Such a shame Sony sent it out to die after a year or two.
so you are going to have one earphone connected to the switch and another to the phone? GENIUS. You totally needed a phone for that and has no issues whatsoever. Stereo is too good anyways.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Very little. The Xbox 360 had party chat despite only having 32MB of RAM being available for the entire OS. For comparison the Wii U allocates 1GB to its OS. So assuming that party chat uses all 32MB, which it obviously doesn't, it would only require around 3% of the memory allocated to the Switch predecessor's OS. Memory is a non-issue.
Going by the Nintendo Switch Online Page, it only says 'Online Gameplay' is FREE TRIAL through Fall 2017. Which sounds to me like all online gameplay will be paid for at some point.
http://www.nintendo.com/switch/online-service/
Check the table at the bottom.
newtypepilot
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New Nintendo accessory.
UncleSporky
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I don't know, how do Sony and Microsoft support that when you're playing their systems online on the bus?
I would like clarification. It's a good thing I don't go online.
MarkMclovin
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The very same way you do with the PS4!!! Only it's your phone instead of a controller.
Jesus.
Is there evidence for this because matchmaking has very specific connotations along with him saying lobby.
TheFuzz
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The problem they've had since the GameCube is that they're so far behind the curve on things, they spent millions of dollars trying to "look forward" and completely negate the here and now.
They're trying to guess that we want HD rumble and completely disregarding the simple basics of gaming in 2017. It's sad, too.
They're trying to guess that we want HD rumble and completely disregarding the simple basics of gaming in 2017. It's sad, too.
I remember a thread where someone called the Wii U the only "pure" gaming machine when it launched.
Interfectum
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The very same way I use the pack in earphones that come with the PS4?
You're not understanding. If you are playing the Switch on a bus, most likely it's too noisy to hear the game audio, hence headphones. But if you want to play some online gaming, in the same noisy environment, you need a second set of headphones to listen to voice chat. You can't combine both into one pair. That is severely limiting.
So should we just consider an android phone to be a 'voice chat adapter'. That's perfectly reasonable.
We've known since the conference that a subscription will be required to play online.
The ingame audio is not going to come from your phone!
So at all times whilst using chat on your phone you will have to have the Switch's speakers to hear game audio? That's about as inelegant as I can imagine this to be going down.
If chat was handled by the machine itself there would be no issue
Interfectum
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The Vita figured this out years ago.
That depends on how "developed" this app is. For all we know, this app could just be a website in a web view that connects to Nintendo's online matching services website. That said you are right about the testing of this app potentially being worse in the long run for Nintendo vs developing what ever was necessary within the Switch's OS and hardware to handle voice chat/etc...
But we don't have friend codes anymore on the Switch. If you go onto a game and jump into an online game like Mario Kart 8 or Splatoon, that's technically matchmaking. You wouldn't need an app for that.
Some people are taking the specification on Nintendo's site to imply that you'll only be able to play with randoms until the app comes out, which also doesn't make any sense since there's nothing stopping game developers from designing "invite/join friends" hooks that previous Nintendo games have done just fine.
Don't you understand? It's easy peazy. You just wear your ear buds from your phone and then put over-ear headphones on top from your Switch. I have my phone with me anyway, so this is super simple. It's actually way better this way. No idea why anyone would only want to use 1 set of headphones.
Reggie should probably clarify things right the fuck now if they dont want people to keep propagating misunderstandings then. Or maybe there isn't a misunderstanding and there is nothing to clarify
What do you consider matchmaking in general? I consider it the ability to go online, select a game mode or type, and to be matched with other people in some form or another.
Okami Haundo
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While this online app stuff is confusing, the app won't be out until Summer. As a result, I don't think we'll see more on how that works before launch. At most we'll get a breakdown of how online works prior to the app launching.
They've been very clear about local multiplayer though. People are just spiraling out of control on that one.
So no built in mic but they have infrared cameras, haptic touchscreen, and HD rumble?
Where the hell are their priorities?
breveglieri
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The Switch already is pretty much the WiiU but you can take the GamePad anywhere
And with more gimmicks like HD Rumble and JoyCons
It will also sell like the WiiU... well, it'll sell one less unit, because I bought a WiiU and will not buy a Switch
mario_O
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huh? but how are you going to do the matchmaking, lobbies etc without the mobile app??
Interfectum
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Nintendo's solution to bulky headphones is requiring two sets of bulky headphones plus phone juggling for Switch OS functionality. It's pure genius.
Ah yes, the old 'This system can do X thing that others can't, so it's entitled to be completely shit at something key' argument.
shanafan
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I would like to see a Mega64 video on this. Someone on a noisy bus, who wants to play online with their friends on the Switch, but they want to both listen to the Switch's audio through headphones, as well talk to their friends with a second pair of headphones.
Every time a new Nintendo home console is announced or launched, I get so excited, frantically searching and missing pre-order after pre-order. Then, inevitably, I start to read more and more, and decide to wait based on awkward or non-standard hardware and software decisions.
Invariably, I always end up passing on the console because of these decisions. Seems like this odd design decision is the tip of the ice berg with the Switch.
Why won't Nintendo make a kick ass home console that is everything the PS4 and XBone are, plus all that awesome stuff Nintendo is?!
Invariably, I always end up passing on the console because of these decisions. Seems like this odd design decision is the tip of the ice berg with the Switch.
Why won't Nintendo make a kick ass home console that is everything the PS4 and XBone are, plus all that awesome stuff Nintendo is?!
I was being facetious about friend codes. The way it's described in the OP is that the app will handle matchmaking and the lobby system.
RichiRamjag
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Which is the major fucking issue for me. Like what in the hell kind of online is this? They're charging for it too?
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